Random Question Thread XXV: Septimus Maximus, Isladar Über Alles

[Talint]

Checked all the wiki's, no Wyverns family mobs spawn in any location that has earth weather. Your best bet might be the Wyverns in Konschtat on Earthsday, or the Wynverns in Riverne A/B01

Specifically, Ignidrakes in Riverne B should do the trick.

There's also Ajattara in Grauberg (S). Higher level, will require sigil for decent evasion, but can drop avatar-ites.

[Kaope]

Gunna pick up apocalypse tomorrow, just mix and matching with what I have at the moment:

Drk 6Hits Pre-Aftermath
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/253135

Drk 6Hits Aftermath
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/253136

Drk 5Hits Pre-Aftermath
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/253128

Drk 5Hits Afermath
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/253130

Catastrophe
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/253133

Comments are appreciated.

PS: How much acc does one need to cap acc on higher tier VWNM?

[grevenilvec75]

Where is the best place to do Wyverns in Earth weather or Earthday?

Only place that I know of with Wyverns and Earth weather is Gustav Tunnel, but there are only three Wyverns in one room. (A few other rooms have one Wyvern each.) Anyone have any good advice for this?

Yeah I waited around in gustav between earthdays and picked up a few kills, but the majority of mine came from abyssea-konschtat.

One of the slowest trials for me IIRC

[Lyramion]

How do enhancing skill merits on WHM work with Lightarts?

I suppose they are a pure waste since every skill point above 320 will just get "eaten" by the Light Arts increase?

[Neisan]

How do enhancing skill merits on WHM work with Lightarts?

I suppose they are a pure waste since every skill point above 320 will just get "eaten" by the Light Arts increase?

No, merit increases to enhancing are applied after LA's increase i.e. LA would increase enhancing skill to 404, with merits it will be 420.

[noodles355]

After the healing magic update, does anyone have any idea of what values of healing skill will equal or surpass what amounts of cure potency?

Like, I'm curious if there will be times where pieces with high healing skill+ on it will cure more than an equivilent +potency items, for example a Hyksos Khat vs MKD cure pot hat, or Rdm AF1 legs vs preaco. I was hoping there would be some simplish guideline of skill:potency (say for under Light Arts)? I doubt it would make any significant impact on whm choices (maybe af1+1 hands vs Augur's?) but it could for rdm or sch.

[Neisan]

After the healing magic update, does anyone have any idea of what values of healing skill will equal or surpass what amounts of cure potency?

Like, I'm curious if there will be times where pieces with high healing skill+ on it will cure more than an equivilent +potency items, for example a Hyksos Khat vs MKD cure pot hat, or Rdm AF1 legs vs preaco. I was hoping there would be some simplish guideline of skill:potency (say for under Light Arts)? I doubt it would make any significant impact on whm choices (maybe af1+1 hands vs Augur's?) but it could for rdm or sch.

Test server thread posted by Mot:

Err... That question doesn't really make sense. Healing Magic doesn't give Cure Potency, and Cure Potency doesn't cap at 40% (it's 50%).

Do you mean how easy is it to cap curing power? Max power for all cures but Cure 1 is 700 power (Cure 1 is 600 power), and you'll have a hard time (even as whm) getting past ~550 power outside Abyssea unless you drop all Cure Potency gear. Inside Abyssea you might be able to push 600 power.

Sch and /sch with Light Arts gives 404 Healing magic skill; if you add 130 mnd and 80 vit to that, that's 489 power (again, nowhere near cap), plus whatever other skill you get from gear. That's enough for a 555 Cure IV (832 with 50% Cure Potency).

Even with the current cure formulas, you're not getting anywhere near cap on any cures without a brew. It's just that the scaling is so slow at the highest levels that you'd never realize you were still a few hundred power shy of reaching the cap.

Rdm native healing skill caps at 368 at level 99. With 130 mnd and 80 vit, that's 453 power, which is a 541 Cure IV (811 with Cure Potency +50%), so not too far behind Light Arts levels.

I'm assuming further down is a calculator that was posted on the new cure formula. In terms of a rdm cure pot set, that's going to depend on main/sub slot and body you're using, but praeco slacks and MKD head aren't necessary to cap.

[noodles355]

I had previously read that and it doesn't quite answer the question.

In the end, adding +Mnd/Vit or adding +Skill or adding +Potency will all result in the end effect of +HP cured.
What I'm looking for is a guildine, to see at what values +X Skill or +Y MND/VIT or +Z Potency will all give the same +HP cured.

[Neisan]

New Formula here

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106...=1#post5086344

and graph here

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106...=1#post5086395

EDIT: Math might be off but assumed starting at 0 cure pot MKD head beats Hyksos.

[Radec]

I had previously read that and it doesn't quite answer the question.

In the end, adding +Mnd/Vit or adding +Skill or adding +Potency will all result in the end effect of +HP cured.
What I'm looking for is a guildine, to see at what values +X Skill or +Y MND/VIT or +Z Potency will all give the same +HP cured.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...emcxeWc#gid=22 for the caps/formula

For a given range of curepower (= skill + mnd/2 + vit/4) the formula is

HPCured = Potency * (Base in range + (Power in range - minimum power to hit that range)/scale in range)

RDM naked is about 435 power (368 skill + ~100mnd/2 + ~70vit/4), so you'd be in range 4 (300-700 power for c4)

HPCured = Potency * (520 + (435 - 300)/2.5) = potency * (574)

If you're at ~40% potency (nothing will beat arka4/heka's), 1% potency ~= +4 hp ~= 10 power - in this range only, 1% potency = 10 healing skill = 20mnd = 40vit

With gear on, your power will be higher though.

Edit: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Sirona%27s_Ring is now the strongest cure ring assuming you're not capped power, and don't need/won't use medicine ring.

[pancakesandsex]

Not really familiar with cor, but if unlimited shot is rng 51, and the bullet from akvan with 20 MAB is cor only, how the fuck are you supposed to use that? Does wildfire not consume bullets?

[Darkmagi]

It's for QD, doesn't consume bullets.

[dasva]

Checked all the wiki's, no Wyverns family mobs spawn in any location that has earth weather. Your best bet might be the Wyverns in Konschtat on Earthsday, or the Wynverns in Riverne A/B01

What about drg mobs? Wont pet wyverns count too?

[fantasticdan]

How much will +16 enhance skill from merits add to barspells, boost/gain, temper, etc?

What about drg mobs? Wont pet wyverns count too?

Unless it was changed at some point, no.

[Taim Meich]

How much will +16 enhance skill from merits add to barspells, boost/gain, temper, etc?

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Barspell

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Boost_Spell

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Temper


No wiki page for etc yet.

[Jem]

What merits should I do for DNC? Asked in LS and got a mixed reaction.

I assume 5 Haste Samba, 5 Reverse Fluorish in Group 1. Then in Group 2 I'm kinda stumped. Guessing 5 No Foot Rise but no idea on the remaining 5.

[Darkmagi]

5 saber dance(Get +2 augmented legs for +5% base DA) 4 no foot rise, 1 fan dance, 5 haste samba, and 5 reverse flourish.

[Loire]

Assuming minimal mab in gear:

1.15 (pluto)* 4/2.75 Smiting * 1.4 Cosmos * 1.5 Hell's = 3.5x dmg
5/2.75 (martial +smithing) * 1.4 cosmos * 1.5 hell's = 3.8x dmg
4/2.75 martial * 1.4 cosmos * 2.0 (hells+ultimate) = 4x dmg

2nd set takes a bit of a hit when you go over 100 tp, as you add mab gear the first two will catch up to the 3rd, but with 30 mab, the numbers are ~4.2, 4.6, 4.7 respectively

Thank you kindly for the summary on that, and in actuality my set has the 30 mab you mentioned so looks like I'll be picking up that martial staff. And in case I was missing anything, novio, hecates, demon ring mab3 x2, stoichen medal, denali kecks, anything else in mab I might be overlooking.

[Ophannus]

If I'm using Raider's Boomerange and swap to Qirmtz Tathlum for WS will I lose TP since they occupy different slots (Boomerang=Range, Tathlum=Ammo)? Someone told me they don't but then if that's the case will I lose TP for swapping out Ziska's Crossbow for the Tathlum?

[Haborym]

You lose the tp. Would have taken you 10 seconds to test that yourself, instead of waiting 25 minutes on a reply. >.>