Random Question Thread XXV: Septimus Maximus, Isladar Über Alles

[Atoreis]

You'll want to 7 hit Ragnarok, you have to sacrifice too much to 6 hit. That's partially why Apoc fairs better with low buffs (2052 delay versus 2586 is a pretty substantial difference). When you're in VW, this becomes reduced due to regain/save TP and TP overflow becoming more frequent (which obviously benefits Resolution)

And if you have to play defensively then Apoc pulls ahead since you can 6 hit in capped haste and full PDT/MDT with Apoc whereas Ragna DoT goes to shit if you have to throw on PDT gear.

EDIT: I'll PM you 2 sets of parses Atoreis on the same mob.

Well I meant War/sam to 6hit Ragnarok but
It will be possible to 6hit Ragnarok on DKR soon and I dont see many disadvantages on 6hit ragnarok set comparing to 5hit Apoc set.
Ragnarok 6 hit will look like this assuming noBRD/noLR set because with marches and LR you only need 15% haste so you can make separate set for those buffs.
Its also a little easier to cut a hit with miser roll on 6hit than it is on 5hit.

[Darkmagi]

Phorcys Salade Rare Exclusive
Head
DEF:36 Accuracy+10
Attack+10 "Store TP"+5
Haste+7% "Subtle Blow"+5
This should open up some better 6hit options as well. Ganesha mala instead of houyi's and have 26% haste?

[Atoreis]

Yeah tho wont be much better than af3+2 helm

Actually I will back this, forgot this set has some +str+dex bonus and you would have legs on you.

[Taint]

If I had 99 Apoc and Ukon I wouldn't bother with Ragnarok, it would end up being a seldom used Toy.

Rag should always out DD Apoc, the catch is you need a different build for each "tier" of mob to keep it ahead of Apoc. Most players don't put that much effort in, someone like Atoreis could probably make it work well.

Where Apoc really shines is easy stuff with low buffs (dynamis, nyzul, solo) or really hard stuff with high buffs (t6 VW). Stuff like middle tier VW (kaggen for example) an aggressive Rag player should do consistently better.

For WAR Rag could be fun with your 2hr up, but for everyday use its not so great. Ukon even with your 2hr is going to be hard to beat. 40-50% ODD and upheaval spam is nasty stuff.

[Darkmagi]

Yeah I personally made rag because I wanted another heavy DD to toy around with, Ukko spam gets boring after a while. Ukko will generally be the better option unless missing haste buffs, but it's still a fun/useful weapon while on drk.

[bruice]

What's the best merit slots for T1 SMN? Avatar Magic Acc/Att?

[Atoreis]

If I had 99 Apoc and Ukon I wouldn't bother with Ragnarok, it would end up being a seldom used Toy.

Rag should always out DD Apoc, the catch is you need a different build for each "tier" of mob to keep it ahead of Apoc. Most players don't put that much effort in, someone like Atoreis could probably make it work well.

Where Apoc really shines is easy stuff with low buffs (dynamis, nyzul, solo) or really hard stuff with high buffs (t6 VW). Stuff like middle tier VW (kaggen for example) an aggressive Rag player should do consistently better.

For WAR Rag could be fun with your 2hr up, but for everyday use its not so great. Ukon even with your 2hr is going to be hard to beat. 40-50% ODD and upheaval spam is nasty stuff.

The only other options I have are Spharai and Almace I think.
I seriously have no idea where I would use MNK over BLU for lowman and MNK over WAR or DRK for big numbers event. (which is pretty sad because I really like MNK)

[Jem]

What Taint kinda said. I'd only do Ragna if the gil couldn't be put to good use on one of your other jobs. Theoretically I should have dumped mine into an Aegis but PLD is so unnecessary now it just didn't seem worth it.

I haven't really looked at future 6 hit options because SE could change any number of things between now and then. Kinda like how they are nerfing Save TP supposedly. Also, it needing double marches + LR up kinda limits it. Sure a lot of the time you do have them so it's a good set to have but you're also going to be lacking them a lot too.

In your situation I'd probably do Spharai. You might not use MNK as much as WAR or DRK but equally, you won't use Ragnarok 100% of the time on those jobs. Spharai would make a more significant difference to your MNK in the situations you did play it compared to Ragnarok when you played WAR and DRK. Plus Spharai say PAIN down the side! You can't get much cooler than that.

You could always get a 90 Calad or a Magian weapon to see how you like Resolution spam. Then if you do like it, go for Ragna, if not then you've lost a bit of time but not massive amounts of gil.

[Rehn]

What is the expected cruor amount per hour if I go at it in abyssea?

[Atoreis]

What Taint kinda said. I'd only do Ragna if the gil couldn't be put to good use on one of your other jobs. Theoretically I should have dumped mine into an Aegis but PLD is so unnecessary now it just didn't seem worth it.

I haven't really looked at future 6 hit options because SE could change any number of things between now and then. Kinda like how they are nerfing Save TP supposedly. Also, it needing double marches + LR up kinda limits it. Sure a lot of the time you do have them so it's a good set to have but you're also going to be lacking them a lot too.

In your situation I'd probably do Spharai. You might not use MNK as much as WAR or DRK but equally, you won't use Ragnarok 100% of the time on those jobs. Spharai would make a more significant difference to your MNK in the situations you did play it compared to Ragnarok when you played WAR and DRK. Plus Spharai say PAIN down the side! You can't get much cooler than that.

You could always get a 90 Calad or a Magian weapon to see how you like Resolution spam. Then if you do like it, go for Ragna, if not then you've lost a bit of time but not massive amounts of gil.

Meh you missunderstood me a little. The set I posted is 25% haste in equip and 6 hit. I said you can improve it if you dont need 25% haste but only 12-15% if marches and LR are up.

Well actually I will focus on gjallahorn for now I think.
Then I will have 2 choices probably:
1. 90>99 harpy to have 4th song for 250M gils
2. 90>99 Almace because I feel like BLU is overall best lowman job for duo stuff like dynamis etc.
3. Spharai + Ragnarok
4. Mythic? I personally see no mythic thats even situational useful for jobs I have (WAR,DRK,BLU,MNK Maybe Scythe for 3min fight when you can 300TPWS at start but thats still sounds like 3.5 times more expensive Ragnarok. Conqueror shouldnt beat Ukon even for 2hr because you need to make 300TP inferior WS at start instead of sekkanoki Uphaveal > Ukko so you are few k damage behind and at best they should be equal when MS will end.)

Hard choices incomming

[Khajit]

What's the best merit slots for T1 SMN? Avatar Magic Acc/Att?

Acc/MAb. It turns out that atk does jack shit to avatars because of how they're calculated.

[Sorin Markov]

best VW - atmacites for war?

[dasva]

What is the expected cruor amount per hour if I go at it in abyssea?

Assuming it's a cruor pt that is decent 150-200k an hour. If you have people breaking chains alot though or sucking at killing can be alot lower

[elison]

How difficult is Maere to duo emp NIN + WHM? I'm 9/75 souls and the competition in Uleg/Altepa is just ridiculous.

bump

[Draylo]

Not difficult at all, make sure your WHM drops party so it doesn't get drawn in for nightmare. There is a hate reset but you should be able to get hate back fairly easily.

[fantasticdan]

How does exenterator compare to other thf/dnc ws?

EDIT: And have they added any decent int/mnd foods in recent years? Or am I still stuck with creampuffs?

[Septimus]

This is my THF's current melee gear:

Thochka (STR)/Kila +2 (Dex, upgrading)/Raider's Boomerang/-
Raider's+2/Rancor/Suppa/Brutal
Raiders+2/Raider's+2/Rajas/Epona's
Atheling/Twilight/Raider's+2/Ballerines

Evisceration gear:
Thochka/Kila +2/Raider's Boomerang/-
Hecatomb/Rancor/Triumph (Lord I need to upgrade that)/Brutal
Raiders+2/Raider's+2/Rajas/Pyrosoul
Atheling/Warwolf/Raider's+2/Hecatomb

For Sneak and Trick I sub in Assassin's Cape (only back piece that I have with DEX and AGI), for Trick I sub in Raider's +2.

What could I be doing better with this, besides impossible to get things like anything out of VW? Also, I am leveling up Exenterator, what should I do to gear that up?

[Francisco]

So I was augmenting my WS Kabuto, and eventually got this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...l82x/fffff.jpg

It's nice for sure, but it's a tiny bit rage-worthy... It's not WS DMG+3%, and as rare as +3% seems to me, I've seen it a few times - but never once got a single STR augment, let alone STR+4... I never expected to get a STR & WS DMG+3% augment, but was just hoping to improve on my previous favorite of DEX+4 Attack+6 WS DMG+2%...

All of my WS DMG+3% augments have been rejected on protest of stupid shit like "Resist Blind" being attached to them.

My question is, for MNK/Smite does an augment of Attack+6 WS DMG+3% beat out STR+4 WS DMG+2%? Aside from getting STR, Attack and WS DMG+3% on an augment, is there room for improvement?

Current WS set, if it matters, is...

Vere90/PotatoBomblet
Shura+1/Rancor/Brutal/Aesir
Tantra+2/Heafoc/Rajas/Epona
Atheling/Anguinus/Usukane/Tantra+2

[The Meat Toilet]

EDIT: And have they added any decent int/mnd foods in recent years? Or am I still stuck with creampuffs?

I think you're going to be sticking with the cream puffs.

There are no options that I know of and none that a quick search of sweets and soups could shake out.

Options for MND food are particularly bad unless there's something I don't know about. The "best" options for MND are various stews made out of mushrooms. They are rarely sold, do not stack, and I think they last three hours.

[Toshiko]

What's the maximum cure casting time deduction now? 80% like fast cast or?