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  1. #1221
    Radsourceful

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffy View Post
    It's a mule...not opposed to dumping a million gil on a WS piece, but as I said not strong on the melee math side. Why an item with STR + and Attack + as opposed to moepapa medal which has dex + on it? Dancing Edge's properties are dex and chr, I don't understand how the str and attack help.

    Not trying to troll, just don't have the knowledge to make a good decision here.

    Is there a link that explains how to calculate WS damage or a calculator you can link me to that might let me play with gear sets so I don't spam the RQT?
    https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Weapon_Skill_Damage

    STR contributes to fSTR(2) and attack, attack contributes to pDIF.

    DEX/CHR contribute to WSC - while often this is good to stack, cases like justicar where there is a lot of attack,str can outweigh them.

    Far as calculators, check Motenten's signature for links to excel sheets for damage calculation. (here: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B0A...N2VkYWZk&hl=en)

  2. #1222
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    Whats teh fastest way to rank up in campaign? Doing it on a mule, and I haven't done it in forever.

  3. #1223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haborym View Post
    Whats teh fastest way to rank up in campaign? Doing it on a mule, and I haven't done it in forever.
    Can't rank up faster then every five days. Do enough campaign between to rank up. Do missions so you don't lose your rank when you stop. 20k exp/10k notes used to be enough to rank you up for every level.

  4. #1224
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radec View Post
    Absolute cap is 18000/hour, with battles ending and teleport time, can probably assume somewhere from 15-17. Turn in tags every 15mins, Statustimer plugin is wonderful for this.

    Your strongest wtfDD is probably a bad choice, as you need to take hits and heal yourself for better xp. RDM, PLD, DNC, BLU type jobs work very well.

    You'll often find you don't need to be active for a full 15mins on one of those - if you solo tank 2 mobs from 100-0, that's usually enough to get your 9000/4500 at 15min. After you hit the potential 9/4.5 cap you can twiddle your thumbs at the tag NPC until you make the time requirement to allow the battle to go on longer.
    How I wish everyone knows this...All the idiots doing campaign with me just kill everything too fast.
    For best results, get tags-->kill 2 mobs or 1 NM-->AFK till 15min passed-->Turn in tags-->repeat

  5. #1225
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    Quote Originally Posted by zard1977 View Post
    How I wish everyone knows this...All the idiots doing campaign with me just kill everything too fast.
    For best results, get tags-->kill 2 mobs or 1 NM-->AFK till 15min passed-->Turn in tags-->repeat
    You say the exp still tick up even you AFK?

    So basically the cap is applied when turn in the tag, at 30 minutes period ?

  6. #1226
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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    You say the exp still tick up even you AFK?

    So basically the cap is applied when turn in the tag, at 30 minutes period ?
    Yes it does. Personally I've never really seen more xp turning in every now and then over just keeping them on and staying capped.

  7. #1227
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    Quote Originally Posted by VZX01 View Post
    You say the exp still tick up even you AFK?

    So basically the cap is applied when turn in the tag, at 30 minutes period ?
    There are 2 "caps" - you can get up to 600xp/minute, increases every 30sec (29sec = 0, 30sec = 300). Once you hit 9000xp, it stops going up. You can "get" 9000xp in 30sec, but would need to wait for 15min mark to turn in and get it all. If battle ends before 15mins, say, 10:30, you get 6300xp/3150an, even if you haven't done anything since 30sec mark.

    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Yes it does. Personally I've never really seen more xp turning in every now and then over just keeping them on and staying capped.
    I may be reading that wrong, but it's clearly untrue. If the battle goes beyond 15mins, you won't gain anything after the 9000xp/15min mark. Are you talking about old, 1st round of fiat-lux on most servers campaign? It's been drastically changed since then.

  8. #1228
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    um... When is Maitanence coming? with all the v.smite and U.fury nerfes?

  9. #1229
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radec View Post
    I may be reading that wrong, but it's clearly untrue. If the battle goes beyond 15mins, you won't gain anything after the 9000xp/15min mark. Are you talking about old, 1st round of fiat-lux on most servers campaign? It's been drastically changed since then.
    Well it was before the recent update that upped the amount of xp. But if fight went on I definitely got more than I would've quitting at 15 so it didn't stop. I guess maybe it's changed. I just remember people saying the same thing back then and just nodding my head and keeping tags to get much bigger turn ins

  10. #1230
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    Just to clarify, 300exp/30sec is for the highest rank medal.

  11. #1231
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    I just recently killed Lugh (the Fomor NM in Crawlers' nest (s)) and I have all the items to synergize concordia, but when I got a friend that had capped synergy/goldsmithing and another friend that had smithing at 92, the synergy furnace said that my smithing wasn't high enough to attempt the craft. I was under the impression that I just had to have people who had the required craft to do the synergy. Am I doing something wrong? I was thinking that it may just be the fact that my synergy was 0. Is there something special about making these weapons?

  12. #1232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffy View Post
    Can't rank up faster then every five days. Do enough campaign between to rank up. Do missions so you don't lose your rank when you stop. 20k exp/10k notes used to be enough to rank you up for every level.
    don't you get permanent rank ups as you progress through the WOTG mission line? if so you could rank up much faster just doing the missions, and you'll never lose your medals. no xp/AN, but if all you care about is rank.....

  13. #1233
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaggnix View Post
    don't you get permanent rank ups as you progress through the WOTG mission line? if so you could rank up much faster just doing the missions, and you'll never lose your medals. no xp/AN, but if all you care about is rank.....
    Not how it works, the missions just prevent you from ranking down.

  14. #1234
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleublood View Post
    I just recently killed Lugh (the Fomor NM in Crawlers' nest (s)) and I have all the items to synergize concordia, but when I got a friend that had capped synergy/goldsmithing and another friend that had smithing at 92, the synergy furnace said that my smithing wasn't high enough to attempt the craft. I was under the impression that I just had to have people who had the required craft to do the synergy. Am I doing something wrong? I was thinking that it may just be the fact that my synergy was 0. Is there something special about making these weapons?
    That's because the Smithing required for it is 98 or above(might be 100, not too sure as I haven't tested anything else and have no intention to), either way with a 100 smith you will be fine.

  15. #1235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalasin View Post
    That's because the Smithing required for it is 98 or above(might be 100, not too sure as I haven't tested anything else and have no intention to), either way with a 100 smith you will be fine.
    Awesome! Thank you very much!

  16. #1236
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    Right, essay question re: SAM:

    So I was a very well equipped 75 SAM, but got bored with it and haven't played it much since. Gonna exp it to 99 and see if I still enjoy it, and if so, I need to gear it up properly. Masamune is not an option, but I will be doing the TP bonus GKT, so in regards to 5 and 6-hit builds, it'll be with a 464 delay weapon. Also, this will be primarily for VW and just general flexibility. So, diving in:

    1) What are the best body and headpieces for Shoha? I ask because Twilight would be very difficult to obtain, since all of my cruor is currently going into Atmacites. From what I see, Avant +1 body seems best, but not sure about head? Is the Varangian Helm still viable, or does the acc- hurt too much for a 2-hit?

    2) I know this is a lot to ask, but anyone mind sharing not only what my end target build should be, but also a couple of easy/practical substitutes to pick up along the way?

    tp currently is as follows:

    lolhagun (have the orthrus gkt waiting for me)/pole/xx/thew
    turban/justice/?? (gave up the bushi for suppa, I'm guessing Centarus?/Brutal
    Hauby +1/Dusk +1/Rajas/Sniper's +1 > Hoard
    lolamemet +1 with atheling/swift (but i have Lacovie pop and only hard part about Ovni is claiming it)/Byakko's/Usu (Also have Dusk +1 and Ace's fwiw)

    I'm guessing WS is pretty much like it always has been? STR everywhere except areas where you can get a buttload of attack, while still preserving your x-hit. I've got Ogier's Surcoat as a haste option until I'm guessing Ace's, and Dilaram's feet for ws, which is what got me thinking about taking SAM up again.

    Oh, and finally, I have lvl 15 Atmacite of Coercion if that comes into play about 5 vs. 6 hit.

    Thanks!

  17. #1237
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaggnix View Post
    don't you get permanent rank ups as you progress through the WOTG mission line? if so you could rank up much faster just doing the missions, and you'll never lose your medals. no xp/AN, but if all you care about is rank.....
    Edit: Blast! Too slow. See Lyramion's post above.

  18. #1238
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinius View Post
    Right, essay question re: SAM:

    So I was a very well equipped 75 SAM, but got bored with it and haven't played it much since. Gonna exp it to 99 and see if I still enjoy it, and if so, I need to gear it up properly. Masamune is not an option, but I will be doing the TP bonus GKT, so in regards to 5 and 6-hit builds, it'll be with a 464 delay weapon. Also, this will be primarily for VW and just general flexibility. So, diving in:

    1) What are the best body and headpieces for Shoha? I ask because Twilight would be very difficult to obtain, since all of my cruor is currently going into Atmacites. From what I see, Avant +1 body seems best, but not sure about head? Is the Varangian Helm still viable, or does the acc- hurt too much for a 2-hit?

    2) I know this is a lot to ask, but anyone mind sharing not only what my end target build should be, but also a couple of easy/practical substitutes to pick up along the way?

    tp currently is as follows:

    lolhagun (have the orthrus gkt waiting for me)/pole/xx/thew
    turban/justice/?? (gave up the bushi for suppa, I'm guessing Centarus?/Brutal
    Hauby +1/Dusk +1/Rajas/Sniper's +1 > Hoard
    lolamemet +1 with atheling/swift (but i have Lacovie pop and only hard part about Ovni is claiming it)/Byakko's/Usu (Also have Dusk +1 and Ace's fwiw)

    I'm guessing WS is pretty much like it always has been? STR everywhere except areas where you can get a buttload of attack, while still preserving your x-hit. I've got Ogier's Surcoat as a haste option until I'm guessing Ace's, and Dilaram's feet for ws, which is what got me thinking about taking SAM up again.

    Oh, and finally, I have lvl 15 Atmacite of Coercion if that comes into play about 5 vs. 6 hit.

    Thanks!


    1. Best Body is either Ace's Mail or Avant+1 iirc. Mekira-oto(+1)/Shura(+1) Kabuto with augments should both pull ahead of Varangian for Shoha, even without the -acc being a concern.

    2. For second earring, kill Hazhida for Unkai Mimikazari. Not sure on xhit but generally Zelus replaces Turban, use bullwhip to cap haste in waist slot, trade Dusk+1 for ace's (if -stp doesn't affect xhit) or Brego, Don't bother with hoard ring and just save up for tyrant's. Emp+2 body/legs should be obvious upgrades. Ace's for feet and you can most likely sell dusk+1 ledelsens.

  19. #1239
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    Target sets for Apocalypse TP sets (aftermath/no aftermath /WAR and /Sam) as well as catastrophe and entropy?

    Also, is it worth getting armada Hauberk now considering the legion options? All I have is aurum body for sTP.

  20. #1240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsyke View Post
    Target sets for Apocalypse TP sets (aftermath/no aftermath /WAR and /Sam) as well as catastrophe and entropy?

    Also, is it worth getting armada Hauberk now considering the legion options? All I have is aurum body for sTP.

    http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Cerberus/Taint

    Click my item sets, most are up to date.

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