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  1. #1901
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    If I'm building a WAR from the ground up for convenient FC capability and red procs, what's the best of the magian WS great axe's? I'm thinking 10% damage was said at some point, but I keep second guessing it and I'm about to hit the spot where the trial splits and I have to choose. Also I'm assuming widowmaker is beaten by now? idk, new to the job, etc.

  2. #1902
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    WAR in VW... what is an acceptable skill level for most weapons, if you are just expected to be able to proc on those weapons? Would having all of the 290-300 WS and trial WS unlocked be acceptable, or should I be working on capping club/staff/gs/scythe/axe/sword/pole?

  3. #1903
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    Can you gain trial weapon points in VW?

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    I see way too many WARs gimping it without certain weapons leveled. At 300 you're not gonna have a very high hitrate (varies depending on the tier/NM). It's not hard to cap skills out on mandies with retaliation/pdt gear/regen atmas.

    Can you gain trial weapon points in VW?
    Think so.

  5. #1905
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    For Hollow Earring, do you need to be wearing it for the Enspell +3 to kick in, or just cast in it?
    I'd assume be wearing it, but Brutal/Suppa seem permanently attached to my ears for TP.

    inb4 lolmeleeRDM etc
    Also inb4 2004 Rewards. I completely forgot about wrapping up ZM Stuff til the other night, and I'm torn between Hollow and Ethereal.

  6. #1906
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    Which spells/ja/ws stack to create the most Defense down %?

    Ageha/metatron/dia3/angon/2hr'd jump/ shit like that... tourbillion or w/e it's spelled?

    What's the most defense down we can get and what stacks with what?

  7. #1907
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    Tourbillion apparently doesn't stick for shit on most things, Tachi:Ageha+box steps+dia3. You can't have more than 1 of the same status effect on, so it has to be a unique status.

  8. #1908
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    I see, so WS type, JA type, magic type? Guess I'm asking if ageha + angon + dia3 will work in-place of steps?

  9. #1909
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    No, Angon gives defense down, which is the same as Tachi:Ageha. Steps give a unique effect, and thus stack.

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    Ahh, so Ageha + steps + dia3 is most effective? Thanks for the quick reply btw.

  11. #1911
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    2 followup questions. Does perfect defense overwrite itself? Obviously the scenario would be PD has been up 1:15~, rotate another smn in to PD again, will it overwrite? Lastly, anyone wanna take a stab @ what ADL's defense is?

  12. #1912
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    I don't believe it does. What are you doing (wrong) that requires (you to have) two PD?

  13. #1913
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSFFXI View Post
    Not exactly what you're looking for, but

    Soloed by BLU

    Soloed by Scholar

    it can't be that hard.
    Do you think Rdm could solo it aswell? It's my only mage on main. Well Duo, I'd bring my whm as it's what has orbs.

    Looking at that Sch video I was thinking Melee Rdm on the ground, nuke in the air? Should be able to survive with capped MDT idle and whm barspell right? Will be slower as no kaustra/helix, but that fight took 4mins and the limit is 30.

  14. #1914
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richybear View Post
    For Hollow Earring, do you need to be wearing it for the Enspell +3 to kick in, or just cast in it?
    I'd assume be wearing it, but Brutal/Suppa seem permanently attached to my ears for TP.
    You need to be wearing Enspell damage gear, not just cast in it.

  15. #1915
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    I don't believe it does. What are you doing (wrong) that requires (you to have) two PD?
    Short on DD's last night when we tried him. Got our clone to 29%, not a lot of wiggle room job-wise either, except we had a rdm for mini-nm's (didn't need it, hindsight I suppose), who could be either another DD or another smn. Our setup was Apoc drk, Bravura war, masa sam, drg (just came back to the game so gear is pretty poor), whm, smn, rdm, thf, brd mule.

    /shrug we got close, decent first attempt.

  16. #1916
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    Supposedly the slug pet does -33% def with it's move

  17. #1917
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Do you think Rdm could solo it aswell? It's my only mage on main. Well Duo, I'd bring my whm as it's what has orbs.

    Looking at that Sch video I was thinking Melee Rdm on the ground, nuke in the air? Should be able to survive with capped MDT idle and whm barspell right? Will be slower as no kaustra/helix, but that fight took 4mins and the limit is 30.
    Timed out at 20%. Chainspelled during flight. Could have streamlined a few things and probably saved about 5 mintues. Maybe if I had been /nin and using a Dagger with Evisceration/Exenterator instead of /blu with vorpal Blade, it would have been better too.

    But I'd rather not risk a second KS99 to find out. So back to original question:
    Main: War Thf Drg Rdm Cor Rng
    Mule: Whm

    Whats the minimum other people I'd need for it and what job set up? Would something like War/Drg/Thf + Whm + Blm work? Melee serk it on ground, blm nukes in air?

  18. #1918
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    Another ADL question! There are 8 Arch Dynamis Lords in the .dats, is there a way to distinguish which is the correct (loot dropping) one? If so can someone direct me to where that .dat is in the files?

  19. #1919
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    Read the completed Relic/Mythic thread. Most of the last few pages are about ADL.

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    Alright, thanks.

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