2012 Republican Presidential Candidate Race

[Andalusian girls]

thankfully liberals take pains to never portray themselves as victims of something beyond their control

[Kuya]

thankfully liberals take pains to never portray themselves as victims of something beyond their control

Yo fag, that's not what i'm saying. I'm saying that victimhood is the business of the left precisely because the left takes it upon itself to defend victims, and especially because said victims also form part of the left. But conservatives have very little to do with minorities or any other group that possesses less power and often ends up on the receiving end of abuse, yet conservatives can't get enough of victimhood.

I suppose it's just too good of a card to play to just leave it to the left, even if the left has a legitimate claim to it.

[Weeks]

newt is /really/ good at acting the part of a victim though. Never underestimate that power in the Republican party

I'd say he does it a lot, but I wouldn't agree that he's "good" at it. It's very transparent to anyone who isn't already fawning over him.

[test123]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XZ3pNZ4zZU...milyValues.jpg

[Talint]

I think that, if there's anything to be learned about the candidates from Colbert's interference this week, it's that Rick Perry is going to run in 2016.

The man drops out before the primary, not after, which is very bizarre in of itself. Perry saw the writing on the wall, and he saw Colbert-Cain was polling way too close to him. Rather than having to suffer defeat and having to answer questions about what it means to place behind a comedian in the primary (just before he was going to drop out anyway), he opted to axe the campaign before it had to deal with such questions. Granted, they're not particularly damning questions, unless you're looking to keep your political future pristine. And the only reason to do that outside of Texas means that you still have some ambition inside of you.

[Ragnus]

From what I understand he's not particularly liked in TX either.

[Talint]

...then how does he keep getting elected to office?

[Ragnus]

Good point. I guess it's mostly because the people I talk to down there are curiously liberal compared to your average Texan.

[Tyrath]

https://www.ricksantorum.com/unite/

Santorum C.U.M.

That is all.

[Milkster]

Looks like people love Santorum's CUM... Donated a lot to be in it.

Really? Did his PR staff not think about that? And what his name means on the internet?

[Milkster]

[Dimmauk]

No Fear Factor thanks to the 150th republican debate this year.

[archibaldcrane]

They really are having debates every 5 days or so eh? This feels strange to me, are they usually this often?

[wipers]

They will be done with debates soon primary in Florida. At least for a month.

[Correction]

Woman Calls Obama An "Avowed Muslim" At Santorum Town Hall

"He is an avowed Muslim. Why isn't something being done to get him out of the government. He has no legal right to be calling himself president," the woman said at a Rick Santorum campaign event to cheers from the audience.

Santorum proceeded to answer the woman's question, rather than correct her and distance himself from the comment.

"Yeah, I'm doing my best to try to get him out of the government," Santorum said.

and:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...t-false-claims

Santorum: Not my job to correct false claims
By NBC's Andrew Rafferty

LADY LAKE, Fla. -- What started as a strong and well attended Rick Santorum town hall got sidetracked this afternoon as the presidential hopeful faced a questioner who called President Obama an "avowed Muslim" and protesters disrupted the event.

"He is an avowed Muslim and my question is why isn't something being done to get him out of our government. He has no legal right to be calling himself president," a woman asked, referring to President Obama.

Standing in front of a crowd of more than 250 mostly senior citizens, Santorum did not address the incorrect claim about the president's religion.

"Well yeah," said Santorum. "I'm doing my best to get him out of the government right now and she is right that he uniformly ignores the Constitution."
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After the event, the former Pennsylvania senator told reporters it is not his job to correct every false claim that comes up during
questions. “Why do you guys ask these ‘Gotcha’ questions like it’s my job to go out and correct everybody who says something I don’t agree with?" Santorum responded to media inquiring about the exchange.

"There are lots of people who get up and say stuff in a town hall meeting and say things that I don’t agree with, but I don’t think it’s my obligation, nor should it be your feeling that it’s my obligation to correct somebody who says something that I don’t agree with.”

But that was not the only hiccup the candidate faced during his town hall here this afternoon. As the event was coming to a close, a
protester charged toward Santorum and attempted to throw a fist full of glitter at Santorum, but was stopped by security beforehand.

Attempts to "glitter bomb" Santorum have become a frequent occurance on the campaign trail as a way to protest his views on homosexuality.

How much time Santorum will spend in the Sunshine State is still in flux. Today, he indicated that how things go on the trail here over the next several days will dictate how hard he makes a push in the state.

But, regardless of how much he campaigns in Florida, Santorum has been clear that his candidacy will not end after the Jan. 31 primary.

"We're going to be in this race for a long time," he said. "We're planning already for Super Tuesday states and investing resources in states there. So this is going to be a long campaign, and we hope to do well here, but we understand this is a very, very expensive state."

While the Santorum campaign has enjoyed a fundraising boost since his Iowa caucus victory, his war chest still pales in comparison with that of rivals Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich.

Today, he tried to qualm fears that his candidacy might not have the ability to compete in the long term.

"Gov. Romney says 'I can win because I have the most money.' Does anyone doubt whoever the Republican nominee is will have all the money they need to run against Barack Obama? They will," Santorum said.

"There's absolutely no doubt that whoever the Republican nominee is will be backed fully, completely, and in our case enthusiastically by the base of the Republican party, the entire base."

Keep it classy, GOP.

[Talint]

After the event, the former Pennsylvania senator told reporters it is not his job to correct every false claim that comes up during
questions. “Why do you guys ask these ‘Gotcha’ questions like it’s my job to go out and correct everybody who says something I don’t agree with?" Santorum responded to media inquiring about the exchange.

Those fucking gotcha questions! Screwing with politicians and their message and their image! How DARE THEY?

How about you fucking correct the ignorant fuck and move on? Oh right, because media outlets played that clip 24/7 when McCain did it, showing the fact that McCain is not willing to jump off the god damn deep end.

"Hey, I just want to be president, not correct people!"

Note: He just corrected someone who presented a question during the debate.

[Kuya]

It's both interesting how she's very sure he's a muslim, and how she thinks this disqualifies him from public office. But 1. human beings can believe crazy things, and they get even more numerous when you create institutions that cater to reaffirming these crazy things and 2. i believe i've read that americans now think that muslims are as bad as atheists, which is amazing really.

[Kuya]

Those fucking gotcha questions! Screwing with politicians and their message and their image! How DARE THEY?

How about you fucking correct the ignorant fuck and move on? Oh right, because media outlets played that clip 24/7 when McCain did it, showing the fact that McCain is not willing to jump off the god damn deep end.

"Hey, I just want to be president, not correct people!"

Note: He just corrected someone who presented a question during the debate.

More interesting was the way in which McCain corrected her. In response to accusations that Obama was an arab, the first things McCain said was that Obama was a decent family man and a citizen. Funny thing, that.

[Talint]

More interesting was the way in which McCain corrected her. In response to accusations that Obama was an arab, the first things McCain said was that Obama was a decent family man and a citizen. Funny thing, that.

Agreed. I just happen to rage more when it comes to the stupidity and sheer fucktardiness that comes with politicians whining about "GOTCHA!" questions.

Colin Powell said it best when he endorsed Obama.

I'm also troubled by, not what Senator McCain says, but what members of the party say. And it is permitted to be said such things as, "Well, you know that Mr. Obama is a Muslim." Well, the correct answer is, he is not a Muslim, he's a Christian. He's always been a Christian. But the really right answer is, what if he is? Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country? The answer's no, that's not America. Is there something wrong with some seven-year-old Muslim-American kid believing that he or she could be president? Yet, I have heard senior members of my own party drop the suggestion, "He's a Muslim and he might be associated terrorists." This is not the way we should be doing it in America.

I feel strongly about this particular point because of a picture I saw in a magazine. It was a photo essay about troops who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. And one picture at the tail end of this photo essay was of a mother in Arlington Cemetery, and she had her head on the headstone of her son's grave. And as the picture focused in, you could see the writing on the headstone. And it gave his awards--Purple Heart, Bronze Star--showed that he died in Iraq, gave his date of birth, date of death. He was 20 years old. And then, at the very top of the headstone, it didn't have a Christian cross, it didn't have the Star of David, it had crescent and a star of the Islamic faith. And his name was Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan, and he was an American. He was born in New Jersey. He was 14 years old at the time of 9/11, and he waited until he can go serve his country, and he gave his life. Now, we have got to stop polarizing ourself in this way.

[oldoldman]

Just got back from USF campus with all the protesting and shit, was one of the best trolling experiences of my life.