2012 Republican Presidential Candidate Race

[Sera]

LOL, remembering you didn't have kids during an incident = you must remember everything you said during that incident. I explained why it would have stuck out in her mind. I am pretty sure I know why my dad thought it was ok to do it, but you'd rather rage than listen so not wasting my time on you.

Again, come back to me when you're almost 70 talking about when you were 30 and we can discuss this. Say what you think will make you feel better though without thinking it through.

I don't care about her exact words (you were the one who got caught up on fucking word choice, not I.)

You said she was concerned about being arrested or breaking a law.

You never said she was concerned about the fact that this was a CRUEL FUCKING THING TO DO TO A TOY POODLE.

Again, it's the difference between "I don't beat my wife because it's illegal!"

"I don't beat my wife because IT'S FUCKING WRONG." -- They're both VALID, but the first one is a pretty fucked up reason.

[Ksandra]

I don't care about her exact words (you were the one who got caught up on fucking word choice, not I.)

You said she was concerned about being arrested or breaking a law.

You never said she was concerned about the fact that this was a CRUEL FUCKING THING TO DO TO A TOY POODLE.

Again, it's the difference between "I don't beat my wife because it's illegal!"

"I don't beat my wife because IT'S FUCKING WRONG." -- They're both VALID, but the first one is a pretty fucked up reason.

We can continue this convo when you're pushing 70 and can tell me how you remember every word in a dialogue you said when you were 30.

^

She wouldn't have needed to tell me it was about concern for the dog because *shocker* that would be pointless as I already know how she feels about animals having grown up with her. It wasn't like she was fucking talking to someone she hasn't seen in 10 years. Use your brain.

[Sera]

My family's had a bajillion dogs (my grandpop works for animal control and brings home dogs that he thinks are being unfairly euthanized to live on his semi-farm) and never put even one on the roof of a car, or even considered it.

MY point is I can't understand why someone would even consider such a cruel idea.

[Ksandra]

MY point is I can't understand why someone would even consider such a cruel idea.

I could explain why I think (in my Dad's case), if you say you'd actually listen and think about it before posting in a rage, which I don't know if I can believe you would.

[Ragnus]

did you see his tenure in Massachusetts ? he's a politician who will sell nearly every position he has if the electorate demands it enough

he will be as moderate as the country wants him to be, as moderate or conservative as he believes he has to be to win. dude's a weathervane

I didn't really follow politics back then as much as I do now. I just thought he was a moderate Repub which was why I was wondering why he was "weathervaning" like you said.

[Dantrag]

I didn't really follow politics back then as much as I do now. I just thought he was a moderate Repub which was why I was wondering why he was "weathervaning" like you said.

He means that he will point right when he needs to point right to get votes and then quickly point left when he's in office(more center than left). Basically he'll point in whatever direction will get him the win.

[Ragnus]

Well, yeah. I understand that now. It just wasn't obvious to me at the time. =/

[Dantrag]

NP, just trying to help out D;

[Sera]

He means that he will point right when he needs to point right to get votes and then quickly point left when he's in office(more center than left). Basically he'll point in whatever direction will get him the win.

That can be dangerous though if it's too obviously done -- people will catch on & resent

[Melena]

Just watched a video on CNN where Santorum all but said if it's between Obama and Romney, vote for Obama.

[zoobernut]

Just watched a video on CNN where Santorum all but said if it's between Obama and Romney, vote for Obama.

Saw that too. I think he said something along the lines of "If we have to choose between one moderate already in office and a slightly different moderate trying to get in we might as well stick with what we already have." paraphrasing terribly here.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#...with-obama.cnn

[Ragnus]

Santorum clarifies remark on Obama 2nd term

WEST MONROE, La.—Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum said Friday that he will support the eventual GOP nominee, if it isn't him, despite what he insists are similarities between front-runner Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama that make them indistinguishable on some issues.

"I will support whoever wins the Republican primary to beat Barack Obama," Santorum told supporters at a police gun range in northern Louisiana.

Poised to do well in Louisiana's primary Saturday, Santorum sought to explain his comment Thursday in Texas that Romney and Obama are so similar on the issues that Republicans might just as well vote to give the president a second term instead of casting their ballots for Romney.

Santorum argues that he is the only Republican candidate who can offer voters a stark contrast with Obama.

After testing his marksmanship with a .45 caliber semiautomatic Colt pistol, Santorum told reporters: "If you don't have a choice, then a lot of voters are going to vote for what they have. That's why we have to have a choice."

"I've said repeatedly and will continue to say, I'll vote for whoever the Republican nominee is and I will work for him," he added. "Barack Obama is a disaster, but we can't have someone who agrees with him on some of the biggest issues of the day."

While Santorum tamped down one fire, a supporter in the audience added an off-message wrinkle. As he fired the pistol, a woman in the crowd shouted: "Pretend it's Obama."

Santorum was wearing protective ear muffs. He said later that he didn't hear the remark but denounced it as "absurd."

"It's a very terrible and horrible remark and I'm glad I didn't hear it," he said.
The Secret Service, which provides security for Santorum, was trying to identify the woman.

"Typically, in an incident like this, we attempt to identify the individual, speak to them and then figure out what the next steps are," said spokesman Edwin Donovan. "People have a right to free speech but we have a right and an obligation to determine what their intent is."

A bit of clarification from Santorum, and yet more class from the Republican voter base.

[Dantrag]

I'll give him a bit of kudos. Similar to the McCain incident but it wasn't in a town hall setting. I'm assuming he was wearing ear muffs so it's understandable.

[Ragnus]

Oh yeah. I'm not blaming Santorum at all on that one. He was indeed wearing ear muffs so he probably didn't even hear the comment.

[Yuri-G]

what a dumbass. she's gonna enjoy her visit from the Secret Service, I'm sure.

[Correction]

[Mazmaz]

Sworn enemies?

[Apelila]

IM going to laugh when someone asks him what he can do about gas and he can't answer.

[Niiro]

Increase domestic drilling, duh.

Don't you know anything?

[Sera]

BECAUSE LOL ASSASSINATION IS HILARIOUS AMIRITE


god if anything please shoot that vapid bitch