Legion - info and strategies

**Mahoro** · 2012-04-11 10:10

I don't think it's the shit rewards (the Head and Feet abjurations are enough barring all the other remaining undiscovered items), but rather the effort:reward ratio. If these drops were in WoE, I can see PLENTY of people doing the content, which only takes 30 minutes. But as it stands, the sheer difficulty of the event is so unbalanced that even the most idealized alliances have had trouble clearing the second wave. That combined with the extreme PUG-unfriendliness quality of the content makes the area lie mostly barren, outside of the occasional LS run.

You find the same problem with Neo-Nyzul. Not many people do that either judging from cursory searches of the area, but nobody can argue the rewards are shit. Obviously, as a whole, the rewards from Neo-Nyzul are better than the rewards from Legion, but again my point is that people "perceive" the event to be extremely difficult and PUG-unfriendly because they have heard testimonials of how hard it is to reach Floor 100 (whether that is true now or not), and therefore the event mostly lies barren.

**Toth** · 2012-04-11 10:46

Can Behemoth gain resistance to dispel? A recent run I was a part of kept having Behemoth resist dispel.

**Raffi_XI** · 2012-04-11 11:14

The ls that I'm in pretty much refused to touch legion. Majority of them said they didnt want to do it because of how bad the rewards were. Only a handful of us wanted to do it and we had to do pick up groups for it. We did everything from a pet burn (lol) pick up group to normal set up pick up groups. Every run that i've been to, there were at least 4-5 people complaining about how the drops are garbage and isnt worth the time/effort. There are very very very few that want to do it because its fun.

The effort to reward ratio is probably on par with vwnm body drop rates once people get the hang of legion. Drop rates on items in legion are pretty high, the hard part is just getting past T2 atm. So if they add those items to the buyable list without needing the full chamber clears, along with lower entrance fees, maybe people will get more into it since even pick up groups can farm some points.

**Mahoro** · 2012-04-11 11:37

Oh, I wasn't refuting that is what you heard from your LS. I have heard that same blanket refrain. I was merely providing a reason as to why that is being said, why it's slightly inaccurate, and what it truly means for the event. I don't think the problem is the rewards themselves, but the effort:reward ratio. If these drops were in WoE (or hell, Abyssea), people would be going after them.

I absolutely agree that they should add more Legion items to the buyable list.

**Zag** · 2012-04-11 12:04

Sorry, this is 13 pages long. I can't find the page that shows the Legion drops. Doesn anyone know? I have no idea what even drops in Legion or if its even good. This is probably another einherjar clone where every single damn chamber dropped nothing but crap and only the final chamber (Odin's chamber) dropped something. Even then it was only for drk pld and war... and reused content like ebody (which was a VERY elite peice at the time so not complaining) but wasn't an exclusive einherjar only item so I don't really count that one as much. Paying to enter and clearing a chamber to find a soulflayer tentacle in the lot pool for 36 people to Lot is bullshit in my opinion but whatever. Legion seems to follow the same route, hopefully I'm wrong.

**Mahoro** · 2012-04-11 12:13

There isn't a page that shows Legion drops. Not even BG wiki lists them AFAIK. You have to cobble together testimonials and info from FFXIAH.com. Basically, all the stuff from the DATs that hasn't been found in CoP/ToAU Voidwatch or Provenance Watcher, along with all Head and Feet abjurations for the new Hexed gear.

**Miraun** · 2012-04-11 12:33

Only info that I've found on the thread regarding drops are from AN chamber:

Tier 1: +25 ATT, +5 Evasion Cloak
Tier 2: Corvine Abjuration Feet

From my own experiences, all the T1 AN NMs can drop that cloak, and the T2 was a single kill of behemoth, so it's unsure if that's all.
Fairly certain that's all that comes from the T1 AN though.

**Churchill** · 2012-04-11 12:38

Got the resistance earring from Dvergr

**Slycer** · 2012-04-11 12:55

If you give me a few minutes, I'll get together a list of everything from the old test server updates that was flagged as "Legion" gear. I need to cross-check against what was actually added to the game to find the correct armor names/stats, and then I'll post it back here.

**Raffi_XI** · 2012-04-11 13:09

Also to note, treasure hunter matters for drops. Few runs where there were no thf we didnt get any item drops (outside exp scroll). When we had a thf we were getting legion items and other stuff from each kill like darkwing bolt cases and other junk.

**Slycer** · 2012-04-11 13:51

Here is (I think) all the legion armor. Note that this is based on pre-update test server dats which flagged armor as "Legion," not process of elimination, so it's most definite that everything on this list is from Legion. I cross-checked actual armor from the official update for armor names as well as to make sure the drops weren't confirmed from elsewhere (none of them were, so I'm fairly confident with this list). Those 1000 LP rings are in there, so this should include both points items and drop items. There's a shitload of it, vast majority of which we haven't seen yet:

Spoiler: show

Weapons to follow.

**Slycer** · 2012-04-11 14:01

Weapons... for those curious, the Legion tag was included on the NQ version of the glowing H2H weapon, so I assume the HQ is Legion as well... no specific tag (Voidwatch, Legion, or otherwise) on the glowing/non-glowing katanas.

Spoiler: show

**Mahoro** · 2012-04-11 14:39

Great job Slycer, thanks. And would add these under Items of course, but between your posts and mine, that should complete the list:

Spoiler: show

Abdhaljs's Honor This brilliantly glowing orb pulsates to the touch. In a flowing runic script, it bears the message: "To you, who outbraved my greatest challenge, I present the greatest reward in my power to offer."

Corvine Abjuration: Head "May the corvine spirits of antiquity favor thee, that thine artifact may be freed from its baleful curse."This prayer is used in the purifying of a hexed coronet.

Corvine Abjuration: Feet "May the corvine spirits of antiquity favor thee, that thine artifact may be freed from its baleful curse."This prayer is used in the purifying of hexed gambieras.

Supernal Abjuration: Head "May the supernal spirits of antiquity favor thee, that thine artifact may be freed from its baleful curse."This prayer is used in the purifying of a hexed somen.

Supernal Abjuration: Feet "May the supernal spirits of antiquity favor thee, that thine artifact may be freed from its baleful curse."This prayer is used in the purifying of hexed sune-ate.

Transitory Abjuration: Head "May the transitory spirits of antiquity favor thee, that thine artifact may be freed from its baleful curse."This prayer is used in the purifying of a hexed bonnet.

Transitory Abjuration: Feet "May the transitory spirits of antiquity favor thee, that thine artifact may be freed from its baleful curse."This prayer is used in the purifying of hexed gamashes.

Foreboding Abjuration: Head "May the foreboding spirits of antiquity favor thee, that thine artifact may be freed from its baleful curse."This prayer is used in the purifying of a hexed coif.

Foreboding Abjuration: Feet "May the foreboding spirits of antiquity favor thee, that thine artifact may be freed from its baleful curse."This prayer is used in the purifying of hexed nails.

Lenitive Abjuration: Head "May the lenitive spirits of antiquity favor thee, that thine artifact may be freed from its baleful curse."This prayer is used in the purifying of a hexed mitra.

Lenitive Abjuration: Feet "May the lenitive spirits of antiquity favor thee, that thine artifact may be freed from its baleful curse."This prayer is used in the purifying of hexed boots.

**Churchill** · 2012-04-11 15:41

Could use that body as a Ebody+2 if you had Phorcys head, but that really is the definition of sidegrade.

**Darkmagi** · 2012-04-11 15:44

We're pretty much in the sidegrade land of 75 here on out, they are usually afraid to make powerful pieces of gear that completely overshadow old gear. A few exceptions obviously, but I doubt they will change much.

**Slycer** · 2012-04-11 15:52

Why don't we start assembling a list of what comes from what?

Here's what JP Wiki has listed so far. Unless it's a huge coincidence that the multiple located drops are all within the same hall (Hearty Earring, for instance), it seems like the loot is Hall-specific, but not mob- or tier-specific. I'll take a pass back through this thread and add what I find.

Edit: Added info from this thread. There wasn't much, people: post the drops you've been getting! Tons of battle info, but little to no drops info.

Lofty Wyrm: Vassal's Mantle
Lofty Behemoth: Asklepian Ring
Lofty Adamantoise: Vassal's Mantle
Lofty Elasmoth: C.Abjuration: Feet

Mired Hydra: Paewr Belt, Inquisitor's Chain
Mired Khimaira: Paewr Belt

Soaring Dvergr: Hearty Earring
Soaring Corse: Hearty Earring, Carrier's Sash
Soaring Vampyr: Hearty Earring
Soaring Kumakatok: Striga Crown

Veiled Amphiptere: Eluder's Sachet, Triplus Subligar

Soaring Naraka: Hearty Earring
Lofty Harpeia: One of the feet abjurations
Veiled Ironclad: Panzer Shield, Eluder's Sachet
Mired Mantis: One of the feet abjurations

**Mahoro** · 2012-04-11 16:08

Originally Posted by Darkmagi

We're pretty much in the sidegrade land of 75 here on out, they are usually afraid to make powerful pieces of gear that completely overshadow old gear. A few exceptions obviously, but I doubt they will change much.

Agreed. Their modus operandi now is to mix sidegrades, minor improvement pieces, and a handful of best-in-slots for certain jobs. This happened in Voidwatch too. I doubt they will operate differently in future content, barring an "AF4" set far, far down the road.

**Slycer** · 2012-04-11 16:22

To anyone who's done Hall of Mul, were the first four mobs "Lofty Harpeia, Mired Mantis," etc. or "Paramount Harpeia, Paramount Mantis," etc.? According to JP wiki the first wave of Mul is Lofty Harpeia, Mired Mantis, Soaring Naraka, Veiled Ironclad, second wave is Paramount Harpeia, Paramount Mantis, Paramount Naraka, Paramount Ironclad, and the third wave is Paramount Gallu, Paramount Botulus, and Paramount Avatar (though they specify the third wave is not yet positive). Possibly the first four halls are just the two waves of three mobs? After reading this, I'm almost positive that the Lofty Harpeia/Mired Mantis/etc. are the first wave of Hall of Mul because no one has finished the first two waves of the first four halls but there are drop reports from those individual mobs on JP Wiki. Maybe the Botulus in the last wave is a summoner or something and summons a Paramount Avatar? Would make sense if all of the various possible avatars appear in the dats.

**Radec** · 2012-04-11 21:06

Mired Mantis in Mul, yes.

**Pandum** · 2012-04-11 21:12

Eluder's Sachet off of Veiled Amphiptere

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