Comic Book Thread: Combined for greatness

**Vagrant** · 2012-06-15 23:01

Personally I was quite pleased to see the last page of Avengers Assemble this week.

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Interesting new grouping for the evil mutant group in X-Force now also.

**grantlogan** · 2012-06-16 01:26

Except for the fact that Bendis retconned the ending of the Guardians of the Galaxy VS the Cancerverse.

**Gilanth** · 2012-06-16 08:13

Is Avengers assemble cannon then?

**Vagrant** · 2012-06-16 13:12

The whole series has been kind of odd in that regard really as far as when/where it takes place. The Hulk seems to be a dull slow witted brute again in the series and like said the last page of the recent issue and Thanos involvement undoes the previous Cancerverse storyline.

**Delirium** · 2012-06-18 12:55

2 Captain Marvel fan paintings I saw by lillyinblue

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Celeste · 2012-06-18 18:48

Originally Posted by Sumiko

Well, there's a cool little scene I liked In AVX#6 with hope. The rest of the stories will still be centered around her!

I personally just don't like how they took sides, again. sigh. I even expressed that to editorial and they're just like, Cyclops has had it coming for a long time. Though I disagree and I really feel that Issue 1 of AVX, although it was all expected, was very aesthetically well done. I just love Laura Martin's colors on the last spread at the end with the hellicarrier turning visible with such a beautiful sky.

and plus being on the production side of things, I'm actually really impressed none of the issues have been bumped yet XD JRJR really pumped out his last issue while working on hit-girl too, that man is just so amazing.

@Del: YAAAY thanks for voting for meee <3 <3 <3 people in my department actually snuck in our names and Mr. Wacker just laughed and said OK XD

NBradshaw is like, the nicest person in the whole wide world ;______; and so talentedddd. he surprised me with a cute cuddly drawing of broo that I ruined by coloring! but I'll share with you guys cause you guys are cool :D

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I liked the art, don't get me wrong. The story is shallow and an insult to the years building Hope & the Phoenix Force up, these are what irritate me.

**Delirium** · 2012-06-19 21:44

Finally figured out the AR for AvX Vs. #3, the only logo was in a box on page 2 of the Black Widow vs Magik and I must have glanced over it a bunch of times. It translates all the Russian.
Here is what they said

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**Delirium** · 2012-06-20 16:56

AvX related

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AvX 6 shows how the Phoenix Five(ugh) have made the whole word a utopia. They have given places water, electricity, and food. In return, they asked the world to stop petty bickering and whatnot. So, of course, the Avengers feel that eventually they will turn evil and MUST BE STOPPED! Hickman's writing is great in this, but it's becoming more and more apparent that they just wanted to make the Avengers bigger at the expense of the X-Men. The Avengers logic from day one has made no sense, but they keep trying to make it seem like the Avengers are in the right and the X-Men are the next Doom/Kang/etc.
Infinite #6 ties into AvX 6 and is written by Mark Waid. It shows Cyclops dealing with being a Phoenix host. He goes to the blue side of the moon to where Jean killed herself. He creates an image out of her from moon dust that he talks to. Obviously, she represents his subconcious. It's interesting to see how Cyclops is when he isn't super leader guy. He isn't sure of himself, despite what he presents to others. I actually liked this more than AvX 6 or the other tie-ins.
New Avengers tie-in continues the Iron Fist/Phoenix mythos that Bendis decided happened at some point. They hint Hope might take over as Iron Fist(no god no) and the only one that can train her to handle the power of the Phoenix is...Spider-Man? "With great power comes great responsibility" cliche is used, but actually well in this case. Spidey and hope have a bit of a heart to heart at the end of the issue. Still think the ties between Iron Fist and Phoenix are dumb as hell.
Secret Avengers continues the Captain Marvel story. It is mostly narrated by Ms. Marvel. The issue was what you expect from Remender. While it was an AvX tie-in as they had to fight the Phoenix from destroying Hala, it actually had more to do with Carol accepting the Marvel legacy which will, of course, lead into her becoming Captain Marvel. Ms. Marvel and Captain Britain had some nice development. Also, Binary!
Uncanny X-Men setting up some mini arc with Phoenix Cyke and Sinister. Totally forgettable.
Avengers Academy has Emma coming to the Academy to destroy that kids sentinel. Of course, the kids fight back which will lead into the next issue. Also pretty forgettable. Also, I hate how talkie X-23 is. Feels like a totally different character from her solo series.

Saga #4

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Venom

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Astonishing X-Men

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New Mutants

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X-Factor

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Dark Avengers

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**Trichocyst** · 2012-06-21 18:53

I like Saga, the art is pretty wonderful and the story has me intrigued (the dialogue isn't always great tho), but what the fuck is up with it sometimes? A lot of bizarre T&A.

**Epysian** · 2012-06-21 22:13

Originally Posted by Trichocyst

I like Saga, the art is pretty wonderful and the story has me intrigued (the dialogue isn't always great tho), but what the fuck is up with it sometimes? A lot of bizarre T&A.

This. I haven't read 4 yet, but I assume it's more of the same. I love the world they created, and the art is fantastic, but I'm not liking anything else about it. The random, weird sex stuff and the dialogue are really doing nothing for me.

**grantlogan** · 2012-06-21 22:39

Read more Archie? The sex stuff was because The Will visited a sex planet, called Sextillion.

**Trichocyst** · 2012-06-22 05:07

It's not about being some kind of prude. Just like in television and cinema sex can be used to explore a lot of depth of character. But when one of your earliest impressions of a book is two people with televisions for heads having sex, bad sex at that, well, it threw me off for sure.

**Delirium** · 2012-06-22 11:43

The sex, the weird tv head beings, etc. are all there to show the reader that this is a very different universe than they are familiar with. Ya, at first you could be like "wtf is this?", but it makes sense. Some times you need to just throw it out there instead of just easing people into it.

**grantlogan** · 2012-06-22 13:41

That's part of why I like Saga, Vaughan is free to do pretty much whatever he can think of(it seems). Comics where the writers are free to write whatever crazy shit they want are usually my favorite kind. But sometimes it can go too far into weird shit(Necronomicon by Moore) or turn into a downright miserable pile of shit(The Unfunnies by Millar).

**Delirium** · 2012-06-25 11:03

Tired of Marvel crossovers? TOO BAD! This is WAR...

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**tyven** · 2012-06-25 11:35

awful awful awful. hopefully hickman writes none of it and takes a book on a magical adventure free of this crapola.

**Delirium** · 2012-06-25 11:48

I think Dan Slott is writing it? They are talking about it on the Amazing Spider-Man panel at SDCC. Ends of the Earth was quite good.

**grantlogan** · 2012-06-25 14:36

Soooo, what's it about?

**tyven** · 2012-06-25 14:39

i love dan slott. i also love your new av, grant

**Delirium** · 2012-06-25 17:32

Originally Posted by grantlogan

Soooo, what's it about?

"The only other bit Marvel has released along with this image is the fact that more information will be revealed at the Amazing Spider-Man penel during Comic-Con International Sunday, July 15, at 12:30 pm." - from ComicVine

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