Comic Book Thread: Combined for greatness

**Delirium** · 2012-07-03 11:32

Originally Posted by tyven

uncanny avenger sounds hella gay but i am glad remender is writing it, it will prob be terrific. love that hickman is taking over avengers. im cool with bendis on xmen. wonder where gillen will go, hope he at least keeps journey into mystery which is grade A fucking fantastic.

rumor is Gillen and Land will be doing Iron Man

Originally Posted by tyven

also when did nova come back to life? or has that not happened yet. nova and jean grey back to life and on same team. so weird. i hope remender keeps it as gritty as ufx

Its a different Nova. It's the one seen in the Ultimate Spider-Man show and AvX #1/AvX Infinite #1. Richard "I'm the boss" Rider is stuck in the Fault with Star-Lord still.

**Delirium** · 2012-07-03 11:52

More rumors about Marvel relaunch
Keep in mind none of this is for sure and a lot is from Bleeding Cool. I expect Marvel is holding off till SDCC to make anything official.

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**Khajit** · 2012-07-03 12:05

I guess I'm taking fantastic four and Guardians of the galaxy off of the list of things i can recommend to people as surprisingly amazing.

**Delirium** · 2012-07-03 12:34

I like Fraction so idk. His Iron Man stuff was pretty good, and I hate Iron Man as a character. Then again, I'm like 1 of 5 people that liked his Uncanny X-Men run so...

**Khajit** · 2012-07-03 13:16

Fraction has good ideas but no follow through. If he was just an idea man for the start of events/arcs I'm quite sure at least 4/5 would be slobbering over any book he writes.

**tyven** · 2012-07-03 13:45

i dont mind fraction or bendis. for the most part i like the shuffling. fucking lol @ nova being written by Bendis or Loeb. that is a fucking CHASM of writing quality, imo.

what is this Marvel NOW! business? 22 #1's? What a fucking terrible idea.

**Delirium** · 2012-07-03 13:55

It seems like the end of AvX will have something fairly impactful happen(shocker, I know). So it allows them the opportunity to start some new series, redesign some stuff, etc. I think it's an interesting idea, even if it feels a bit too much like the New 52 and Flashpoint right now. As long as the stuff that comes out is good, I'm ok with it.

**Delirium** · 2012-07-03 14:53

More from Entertainment Weekly

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Marvel Comics is embroiled in Avengers vs. X-Men, a crossover event which follows an all-out war between the publisher’s iconic superteams. When Avengers vs. X-Men reaches its conclusion, the stage will be set for a massive restructuring of the Marvel Universe. “It’s not hype when we say that AvX is the culmination of a lot of stories we’ve done over the last several years,” says Marvel editor-in-chief Axel Alonso. “Characters are redeemed or not. Characters are changed. The X-Men and the Avengers are both repositioned for the future. What better time to shake things up? “

And Marvel is shaking things up. Entertainment Weekly is excited to exclusively announce Marvel NOW!, a massive new initiative that will launch new titles and relaunch old ones starting in October. Some of the company’s top storytellers are leaping from one corner of the Marvel Universe to another. Brian Michael Bendis is leaving the Avengers for a new X-Men book; Jonathan Hickman will end his run on Fantastic Four before kick-starting a new twice-monthly, jampacked Avengers book; and Rick Remender will begin work on the flagship title of the new era, Uncanny Avengers, a book that will blend Avengers and X-Men characters into one superteam. “I’m excited about taking creators out of their relative comfort zones,” says Alonso.

Of course, this isn’t the first time that a major comics publisher has inaugurated a new era with new creative teams and new #1′s: Just last year, DC Comics relaunched their entire line with The New 52. But Alonso is quick to draw a sharp contrast between DC’s initiative and Marvel NOW! “This ain’t a reboot. It’s a new beginning.” Unlike New 52, Marvel NOW! will roll out gradually over a few months, with creators finishing off their runs and then starting new ones. “I feel that it’s a much more humane approach for retailers and fans to tell them: ‘Look. In the months of October through February, every week you can go into a comic book store and find a few new jumping-on points for the Marvel Universe, a place you’re going to like visiting. Or revisiting.”

We spoke exclusively to Remender, Hickman, and Bendis about three of the books that they’ll be rolling out for Marvel NOW! Read on for more, and be sure to check out our exclusive piece of art from Marvel CEO Joe Quesada.

Uncanny Avengers: Remender describes this as “a bridge book, something that can delve into both worlds. It has a natural purpose for existing after AvX, where we can focus on human-mutant relations. The broad strokes are: Captain America comes out of AvX and recognizes that he hasn’t done enough to help the mutants.” The book will be drawn by John Cassady, and will include heavy-hitters like Cap, Thor, and Wolverine, but Remender is also excited to focus on some less well-known characters, like Cyclops’ little brother Havok. “Havok’s always been the black sheep rock-and-roller of the Summers family. He can’t do that anymore. You’re going to see Havok become one of the biggest players in the Marvel Universe.”

Perhaps appropriate for a team that comprises a vision for the Marvel Universe’s future, the Uncanny Avengers’ first villain will be, literally, a ghost of the past. “In 1943, Arnim Zola, who was this bio-fanatic engineer, recorded the Red Skull’s consciousness, and set it to wake up 70 years later. So the Red Skull [in Uncanny] is right out of 1943-44. Prime Nazi scumbag. In his mind, he’s taking that vitriol and hate and Nazi horror and methodology, and pointing it at the mutant species.” And Remender stresses that the mash-up philosophy of Uncanny extends beyond the team’s lineup. “I’m not just smashing the heroes together, I’m smashing the villains together. It becomes something unlike anything we’ve ever seen, with stakes that are so huge, it takes a team comprised of the best Avengers and the best X-Men to go take care of it.” (Starts in October)

Avengers: Jonathan Hickman tells big stories. During his run on Fantastic Four, the writer has become known for meticulously plotting out stories years in advance in what Alonso describes as “his Unabomber-sized notebook.” And he’ll bring that maximal aesthetic to Avengers. “It’s not six Avengers, it’s 18 or more,” he teases, promising a diverse mix of popular characters, B-listers, and new characters. (Jerome Opena will have his work cut out for him as the Avengers artist.)

Unsurprisingly, Hickman’s favorite Avengers stories veer toward the cosmics: the Korvac Saga, the Kree-Skrull War, and the time-scrambling Avengers Forever. Hickman’s first story arc on Avengers is called “Avengers World,” but even the term “world” sounds a bit too micro for Hickman’s ambitions. In the wake of AvX and a new era of Marvel, “The obvious solution is for the heroes to become something bigger and larger, a more appropriate response to an ever more dangerous time.” Avengers will be published twice a month, and Hickman is currently planning to mix together longer five-to-six-issue story arcs with one-off stories that focus on individual characters. As for those characters, Hickman is mostly keeping mum about the lineup right now, but he revealed one teammate to whet our appetite. Kids, we’ve got six words for you: Shang-Chi, master of Kung Motherf—ing Fu. (Starts in December)

All-New X-Men: “The X-Men is a tough nut to crack,” says Brian Michael Bendis. “It’s the Robert Altman movie of comics. There’s thousands of characters, all of which have a website dedicated just to them. I wanted to make sure I had a take that was unique.” So when it came time to plan for Marvel NOW!, Bendis — who’s been Marvel’s go-to Avengers guy for close to eight years — remembered an idea that had been floating around the Marvel writers’ retreats for a long time. “It was about the original X-Men. If they saw what the Marvel universe was now…well, it’s so much worse than the Days of Future Past that they’re always worried about. This would scare the crap out of them.

Thus: All-New X-Men, a time-travel story with the original X-Men jumping to the present. We’re talking Cyclops, Iceman, Beast, Angel, and Marvel Girl. They’re teenagers. They’re wearing blue-and-yellow outfits. They’re seeing their older selves, and they don’t all like what they see.
Bendis is literally drawing the teenaged X-Men from a specific panel in the original Stan Lee/Jack Kirby X-Men series, “a moment where they’re at their most feisty.” And although he can’t talk too much about the mechanics that get the old-school X-Men into the present, he promises this is not a dream sequence. “No Danger Room, no imaginary story. This is actually happening.” (In a statement guaranteed to calm at least some of the skeptics, Bendis swears: “The space-time continuum is of utmost importance to me.”)

Bendis stresses that All-New X-Men is most of all a character story: the tale of young, idealistic people who are suddenly faced with a bleak vision of their own future. “Here’s the big question that the original X-Men are gonna be faced with: We’re gonna grow up, and this is what we’re going to get? That is not acceptable.”

And of course, the time-travel shenanigans at the center of All-New X-Men will bring fan-favorite character Jean Grey back to the mainstream comics continuity for the first time since her (second) death in 2004. “It’s the one thing X-Men fans have always asked for is: They want Jean Grey back. But they want Jean Grey. Not reincarnated Jean, or the ghost of Jean. Well, you’re getting Jean back. And Jean is gonna be looking at a world that rattles her.” And Bendis brings up an intriguing personal connection when he talks about writing the beloved character: “I love feisty redheads. I’ve been married for many years to a very feisty redhead. But I’ve never applied that to writing before. I didn’t even realize what I was doing, but Stuart Immonen is drawing the book, and looking at it I realized: ‘Ha ha, I’m doing my wife!’” (November)

Marvel CEO Joe Quesada illustrated this exclusive piece of art for EW, showing 13 characters who will be key to Marvel NOW! Some people, like Cyclops and Iron Man, have new costumes. Thor is rocking a couple of swords. And then there’s Rocket Raccoon, of Guardians of the Galaxy. Quesada describes this piece of original art as “the tip of the iceberg.” As part of Marvel NOW!, characters from throughout the Marvel lineup will change. “There are some costume changes. There are some new character attitudes. Some characters may be changing their identities altogether.” Click on the image below for a bigger look!

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Clockwise from top: Spider-Man, Hulk, Marvel Girl (Jean Grey), Nova, Iron Man, Nick Fury, Captain America, Rocket Raccoon, Wolverine, Cyclops, Invisible Woman, Cable, and Thor.

“There’s a reason Sue Storm is there,” says Quesada. “And why there’s a floating robot near Hulk. We’re trying a lot of fun and new different things, we’re exposing characters who we’ve had in our toy chest for a long time.” (At least one of the characters is a genuine mystery: Quesada refers to the dude in the eye patch, who looks a lot like the Samuel L. Jackson Ultimate-verse Nick Fury, as “the new Nick Fury in the Marvel Universe.”) But Quesada has a quick answer when you ask him who was the most fun to draw. “Before I was into comic books, I was really into cartooning, and I had a blast with Rocket Raccoon.” Quesada promises big things in store for Rocket Raccoon — and considering that news recently leaked that Marvel is moving forward on a Guardians of the Galaxy movie, don’t be surprised if Rocket Raccoon is headlining his own billion-dollar franchise soon.

I really should do something other than read twitter and listen to Frank Turner today

**Kaslo** · 2012-07-03 14:53

Originally Posted by Delirium

It seems like the end of AvX will have something fairly impactful happen(shocker, I know). So it allows them the opportunity to start some new series, redesign some stuff, etc. I think it's an interesting idea, even if it feels a bit too much like the New 52 and Flashpoint right now. As long as the stuff that comes out is good, I'm ok with it.

At least Marvel isn't saying "fuck the past 60 years! (unless you are Batman or Green Lantern)"

**Delirium** · 2012-07-03 15:11

semi-related, my LCS owner said I was nuts when I told him I thought Remender would be writing Avengers in the next 3 years(secret avengers had just come out). Damn, I feel good being right :D

**Doombear** · 2012-07-03 16:58

Originally Posted by jinkazama

other then AVX what is a rather new series worth reading. Just now getting into comics and want something fairly new i can catch up on with rather inexpensively and start collecting current issues

Some newer books I am enjoying so far:
Saga
Danger Club
Supercrooks - Mark Millar and Leinil Yu
Hit Girl
Thief of Thieves
Rachel Rising

Really loving Danger Club and Saga so far. Both are great. The others are as well, but lower down on my hype list each month. Also finally got a few Fables trades, so I am starting on that beast.

Also borrowed Promethea trades, Ex Machina trades, and a chunk of recent Amazing Spidermans from a friend to add to my list of reads.

**grantlogan** · 2012-07-03 17:22

Ugh, Fraction on FF...went from amazing to shit. I'm glad Gillen and Land are on Iron Man, keeps all the awful with an awful character! I want to know what's going to happen to X-Force and Secret Avengers, I need more Remender! And is Marvel actually turning Fury into black Fury or is it still that guy who is supposed to be his son or whatever?

**Delirium** · 2012-07-05 09:38

More from Marvel about Marvel NOW!
Not gonna post the whole article, just the important parts

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**Delirium** · 2012-07-05 15:47

First image of Uncanny Avengers #1

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EW claims it is draw by John Cassaday, but it looks...weird especially compared to his older stuff on Astonishing X-Men.

**Khajit** · 2012-07-05 16:27

The eyes all looks exactly the same and they just so happen to be set to creepy.

**grantlogan** · 2012-07-05 20:56

I'm kind of excited to see X-Men and Avengers on the same team.

**Delirium** · 2012-07-06 10:50

I want one @@
http://overthebifrost.tumblr.com/lokipattern
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m68a9kzpi71rryk1y.jpg

**Delirium** · 2012-07-08 17:35

if only I had money

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**grantlogan** · 2012-07-08 18:55

Cable = I need more pouches! MORE POUCHES!!!

**Delirium** · 2012-07-08 19:11

He just needs to one-up batman

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