SWTOR: Random Complaint thread. F2P means P2Win

[Syntex]

Canceled my sub by finally getting around to it and wrote them a lengthy letter explaining basically the gripes a lot of you had in the past few pages to them. I doubt they will take just one persons opinion seriously enough to change their game but it will at least get it out there they need to pull their head out of their ass when it comes to simple basics.

I doubt I will play this again even if they fix everything. Diablo III, Guild Wars 2, Blade n Soul, among other various games coming out in the future will want me going back.

[Dantrag]

I wish they wouldn't put a GCD on our basic attack. Its so annoying having to sit there and do nothing 1/2 the time.

[ringthree]

I wish they wouldn't put a GCD on our basic attack. Its so annoying having to sit there and do nothing 1/2 the time.

But we were told that our needs were wrong and auto-attack was a thing of the past.

Even SE managed to figure out that you need auto-attack to fill the gaps.

[Dantrag]

But we were told that our needs were wrong and auto-attack was a thing of the past.

Even SE managed to figure out that you need auto-attack to fill the gaps.

Even GW2 is going to have a "auto" option for basic attack :/

[Cephius]

WAR environments looked 100 times better than these do, unfortunately :/

[tol]

Don't get me on the auto-attack shit.. had some fuckin biodrones in general chat saying it takes more skill to "hit the basic attack key" than let the game play itself with auto-attack like WoW. I love the game so far but god damn are people fucking retarded.

[Elvis]

Random comment:
World pvp is non-existent on my server, Iron Citadel. It's all Warzones. And PVP gear is basically rng-bags.

Super disappoint.

Then again, I like pvp and should have known better.

Things might change w/ the upcoming patch though, but right now things are just kinda boring (I do have fun in warzones though).

[Dantrag]

Another thing that bothers me. Mobs with heal. Let alone a group of 2 mobs with heal. FUCKING... ANNOYING.

[BadKarma]

Another thing that bothers me. Mobs with heal. Let alone a group of 2 mobs with heal. FUCKING... ANNOYING.

Oh god this. Especially for us mercs who dont have interrupts

[ringthree]

1.1 next week. Undead attack. Mostly content that wasn't released at launch. Promises that combat will be fixed but no specifics at this time. Feeling kind of ambivalent about it right now. After their "fooled you, never really meant to have high res models" and "fps drops are because of your shitty comp" answers, I am beginning to think they don't give a fuck.

[Dantrag]

I was fighting a group of 4(thought it was 3, one was hiding) I could not kill the healer for my life and then I realized there was a 2nd one. By the time I realized it my heat was almost capped, so I cc'd one and then basically had to wait 30 seconds for my heat to go down and then burst the non-cc'd one and stun it, then work on the 2nd one and just try to burst through w/o being able to stun it. /rage

[Dantrag]

As soon as D3 or GW2 comes out...

CU TOR.

[Isiolia]

As soon as D3 or GW2 comes out...

CU TOR.

Meh, I did the 3-month-at-a-time subscription, so I'm giving myself that time to get through a couple classes story or so. I mean, I picked the game up figuring story n' done anyway, but I've found the game so tedious that I only tend to play it for a few hours every 2-3 days.

[Rokku]

They really, really need to enable messages for procs on the floating text, shit is driving me nuts.

[Rulke]

Meh, I did the 3-month-at-a-time subscription, so I'm giving myself that time to get through a couple classes story or so. I mean, I picked the game up figuring story n' done anyway, but I've found the game so tedious that I only tend to play it for a few hours every 2-3 days.

My wife and I did this too. Actually when Tera comes out if we are still enjoying TOR we might play both, since its just she and I on TOR and other friends in Tera.

[vrumpt]

Don't get me on the auto-attack shit.. had some fuckin biodrones in general chat saying it takes more skill to "hit the basic attack key" than let the game play itself with auto-attack like WoW. I love the game so far but god damn are people fucking retarded.

auto-attack IS fucking stupid. Tried to go back to WoW months ago and nearly fell asleep trying to level up, waiting for my character to strike by himself is stupid as shit. LETS LET THE GAME PLAY FOR ME HURRRR

You people who are unsubbing after the first month need to wake up and realize you probably just don't like MMO's anymore. Anything else coming out is still going to have long term goals that progress slowly to keep you busy. That part of MMOs isn't going to change.

And as for myself, I'm about to hit 50 and am very much enjoying TOR so far. I still plan to buy GW2 day one, but TOR is pretty damn fun so far.

[Man0warr]

The class I play, I never use the basic auto attack anyways (except to melee down a mob with no health left) as I'm either waiting for GCD or hitting an ability.

This is how it works in WoW too - if you are always hitting GCD/ability your character will never auto attack.

Yeah it sucks for the mouth breathers who can't manage a rotation and lose out on dps or the AFKers that attack mobs in raids/groups and alt tab out but fuck those people anyways.

You people who are unsubbing after the first month need to wake up and realize you probably just don't like MMO's anymore. Anything else coming out is still going to have long term goals that progress slowly to keep you busy. That part of MMOs isn't going to change.

Truth.

I plan to take breaks from SWTOR and resub later too, just like I did in WoW and basically every MMO since EQ/DAOC/FFXI. Just because an MMO isn't able to keep you subbed 12 months out of the year doesn't make it a failure.

If you think GW2 or Insert MMO here are going to be different you are delusional.

[Ezek]

auto-attack IS fucking stupid. Tried to go back to WoW months ago and nearly fell asleep trying to level up, waiting for my character to strike by himself is stupid as shit. LETS LET THE GAME PLAY FOR ME HURRRR

You people who are unsubbing after the first month need to wake up and realize you probably just don't like MMO's anymore. Anything else coming out is still going to have long term goals that progress slowly to keep you busy. That part of MMOs isn't going to change.

And as for myself, I'm about to hit 50 and am very much enjoying TOR so far. I still plan to buy GW2 day one, but TOR is pretty damn fun so far.

The problem with SWTOR is that it is missing some very essential items that no MMO, much less a AAA MMO, made in 2012 should be without: addons, macros, UI API functionality, COMBAT LOG (really? What kind of MMO ships with this) and of course, combat ability delay, which is a make or break point for a lot of people. This is all stuff that's already been said before in this thread but it's worth mentioning again. Ultimately, they need to get that stuff implemented ASAP before the other heavy hitting games of 2012 are released and people lose interest.

There are a few other issues that I can point out (lack of a functioning economy, useless tradeskills outside of Biochem, etc) but I feel that the above are the ones that really need to be addressed.

[vrumpt]

The problem with SWTOR is that it is missing some very essential items that no MMO, much less a AAA MMO, made in 2012 should be without: addons, macros, UI API functionality, COMBAT LOG (really? What kind of MMO ships with this) and of course, combat ability delay, which is a make or break point for a lot of people. This is all stuff that's already been said before in this thread but it's worth mentioning again. Ultimately, they need to get that stuff implemented ASAP before the other heavy hitting games of 2012 are released and people lose interest.

There are a few other issues that I can point out (lack of a functioning economy, useless tradeskills outside of Biochem, etc) but I feel that the above are the ones that really need to be addressed.

Who says they NEED to implement that stuff? I personally think the lack of a combat log is great, because it shoves the elitists out of the game and prevents SWTOR from become an elitist jerkoff session.

I also hope they don't include addons, because then all THAT does is make anybody who doesn't have the newest "best kept secret" horribly gimped to anybody else. It wouldn't be long before a DBM equivelent addon comes out, then the devs have to work around that just like blizzard, and at that point the game turns into exactly like WOW. Addons don't help anybody, and the lack of them keeps the playing field even. UI development is another area that would suffer if addons were added, because then BioWare would get just as lazy as Blizzard and let the community develop the UI when it is their job to keep the UI up to date. As far as UI addons are concerned, they are just a means to an end and the wrong answer to the problem. If they ever actually include addon support thats a reason for me to quit; I don't want SWTOR to walk down that road.

Macros they need to add, not having mouseover heals as a healer kinda sucks. Not sure why they skipped this.

Ability delay i could care less about. I don't have any issues playing SWTOR, and I really think people are just stupid and don't know how to use the ability queuing system. I really don't know what everybody's problem is, its the flow of the game. I have no issue going with that flow at all.


pre-launch people complain its too much like WoW, post launch people complain its not enough like WoW.

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[Zetanio]

Addons don't help anybody