"I Am Not A Second Class Citizen"

[solanis]

The term in english is LGBTQ, the Q for queer, which is what transgendered individuals (myself included) fall under. the other term for us is genderqueer, and if I'm anything to go by, we're just as obnoxious as trans men and women, but not as obnoxious as bisexuals or asexuals.

[Kuya]

How can something that does not exist, be obnoxious.

[solanis]

oh believe me it can be

[archibaldcrane]

Do you consider yourself to be a straight female or a gay male solanis? (anatomy aside)

[solanis]

gay male

[archibaldcrane]

gay male

Were you born a woman, anatomically?

[Uzor]

I think that for a gay person, given that many christian groups are politically organized around being anti-gay, hating christians is very logical.

I don't hate Christians, I feel sorry for them

My sister don't really hate them either, she just says that she refuse to see herself as Atheist because the concept of "God" is so ridiculous and pathetic that she refuses to to even recognize religion - and therefor Atheism - making herself completely neutral. I'm not sure if that's considered hatred, as she don't hate Christians, she just don't acknowledge their believes... I'm confused, halp?

[Kuya]

To some christians, your sister has just committed a hate crime.

[BaneTheBrawler]

Threads like this remind me why I like being a Moravian. We're pretty moderate, and generally adopt a "live-and-let-live" philosophy. We don't proselytize, we don't care what consenting adults do with their genitals. Our un-official motto is "In essentials, unity; in Non-essentials, liberty; In all things, love." It's not official because if a congregation like some other motto better, they can use that one. We don't really have a list of things you can't do, but we are expected to be responsible and active citizens in whatever country we live in, so we're supposed to vote, not break the law, etc.

Also, Uzor, your sister is being disingenuous. She hates religion, but she wants to feel smart/good about it, so she's making up a bunch of bullshit. She's the kettle calling the pot black.

[Egon]

Are you coming out in support of gay rights? This is a surprise.

Just making the point that I will always be hated on BG for having Christian values.

[Kuya]

Poor you

[archibaldcrane]

Just making the point that I will always be hated on BG for having Christian values.

no, it's for being a dick

jesus wasn't a dick

be more like him

[Ashmada]

Religion really is just the way people tend to express their view on the subject, deep down it's more of an 'Eew' response. People are uncomfortable with something they don't understand or do not want to understand. So rather then ignore it,they look for reasons to justify their viewpoint and remove what makes them uncomfortable.

After all people have made Wars and commited horrible acts to accomplishes similar issues of discomfort or blame. Hatred is hot and more desirable to most people then reason, that's how it kind of goes.

Ironically most teachings of Christianity that I am familiar with does not indicate that god has hatred that people claim they do. In fact most passages I'm familiar with most mentioning of Homosexuality takes place in the section of the old testment that was involve with Jew Law not from any specific act of god supposely. Been since Middle School since I had any involvement with the book so I may be wrong on that.

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them (Leviticus 20:13).

Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind . . . shall inherit the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).


Cherry-pickers like to ignore those parts of the bible, but well, that's jus that: cherry-picking.

The reason why some people hate gays is the same reason some people hate Christians. Which is the same reason why every other "group X" has hated "group Y." There is never any logical reason, it is always emotional.

He trollan' or he sirius?

[Uzor]

Naturally they choose to ignore the ridiculous parts. After all, they would all have to go to hell otherwise. So naturally they choose to ignore the parts that apply to them, and accuse the gays of being sinners.

The fact that they can not see the irony in the situation is an entirely different reason.

[Correction]

Just making the point that I will always be hated on BG for having Christian values.

It gets better, Egon. It gets better.

[Stumblingdrunk]

it probably won't

[archibaldcrane]

I don't quite understand the headline though. It's kinda like those "skateboarding is not a crime" t-shirts.

Because in many places, yes it is, just like how gays are second-class citizens.

Gotta throw a "shouldn't be" in there or something.

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[Melena]

Just making the point that I will always be hated on BG for having Christian values.

I thought it was due to you being a hypocritical douche that makes comments about judgement day and it will be too late to believe by then among many other things, not just for having "christian values" like that makes people think they are better for believing in an invisible man that doesn't exist.

[Correction]

I don't quite understand the headline though. It's kinda like those "skateboarding is not a crime" t-shirts.

Because in many places, yes it is, just like how gays are second-class citizens.

Gotta throw a "shouldn't be" in there or something.

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You of all people should know that shorter titles grab more attention during marketing pushes.

[archibaldcrane]

You of all people should know that shorter titles grab more attention during marketing pushes.

Then shorten it to "I AM A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN"