Getting fat, need halp!

[Nevex]

Eat less. It's all about calorie intake. No amount of physical activity and eating healthy foods will help you lose weight if your calorie intake exceeds your maintenance calories. Yes, it's that simple.

[richardd]

There's no evidence to support that decreasing sodium intake provides any health benefit.

The only people that need to worry about sodium intake, are those with hypertension. But don't be fooled, the reason is not that sodium intake raises blood pressure, only that it may. It is in fact just as likely to transiently lower your blood pressure as it is to transiently raise it. For this reason, people on hypertension meds simply do best not to fuck with anything that has any effect on BP at all.

While we're mythbusting, let's go ahead and throw out that saturated fat is in fact far better for you than whole grains, or any grains at all really. I hope this entices someone to do some research on the internets and become obsessed with nutrition.

this seems to be a common thought amongst most people. i've learned to just not argue with it. but the only reason i was never afraid of sodium was because i drank at least 1.5 gallons of water day, lol. my salt intake is through the roof, but my blood pressure, and all that has been perfectly fine for the last 2 years. i thought the way to counter a large sodium intake was to drink a shit load of water and be just fine, lol.

and salt is awesome for post workout, especially after cardio. electrolytes are repaired, etc

but like i said, conversations like this doesnt exist with most. a lot of the population still think bacon and egg yolks are the devil lol

[Nevex]

The problem with bacon is that it contains very few useful nutrients for the amount of calories you're ingesting, unlike egg yolks which are loaded with minerals and vitamins.

The difference between healthy and trash food is merely about the amount of micronutrients it gives you, not about the calories or macronutrients. That's why fruits are considered healthier than candies, even though both are sugars. Fruits have vitamins and fiber, candies are nothing but sugar.

[richardd]

ya, but cmon. bacon tastes fucking great

[Olo401]

ITT: Man spirals into anorexia nervosa

[Talus]

The headache thing is weird. It could be a lot of things, like your sinuses, dehydration, etc. Does it also cause you eye pain? A lot of people commonly mistake sinus headaches with eye pain since you have several sinuses behind your eyes.

You may also want to have a basic metabolic panel run - see if your thyroid is still working as intended... if you're developing hypothyroidism, levothyroxin could help.

[Zalius]

egg yolks are fucking fatass shit. what the fuck. bacon and egg yolks are both bullshit if you're trying to lose weight. they're not even decent sources of protein considering egg yolks are 3:1 fat to protein ratio and bacon is about the same.

(EDIT: WHO THE FUCK DECIDED SMILIES SHOULD HAVE PRIORITIES OVER RATIOS. SOME PEOPLE USE COLONS WHEN THEY TYPE GODDAMMIT)

egg yolks are not fucking loaded with vitamins and minerals, they're not even that different than bacon. what the fuck are you saying. broccoli is loaded with vitamins and minerals, not egg yolks. egg yolks are higher fat content than fucking bacon and have like 1 vitamin (B12 in low/eh amounts) and some other fucking useless shit that IIRC is supposed to promote healthy hearts which is totally counteracted by all the fucking fat in the egg yolk.

room in diet (the consistent habituation of eating, not fucking atkins or whatever the fuck retarded 16 year old girls and fat unintelligent single people try to lose weight) is not something you fuck around with. if you have 200 extra calories in the day, that's your fucking weight loss. that's not your fucking room for egg yolk. that's room at best for the 70-100 calories of salad dressing that saves you 200 more calories and improves your overall diet because you're eating a salad instead of french fries. that = 300 calories. add to the fact that your digestive, muscular, cardiovascular and respiratory systems are all going to be better off having eaten a salad


the fucking shit.

[Darlantan]

OMG FAT IS TEH DEVIL!1!!111

Sounds fatass noob as fuck to me.

[RKenshin]

I just want to be clear here. There is no way this guy is fat. The best shape I have ever been in I was 5'10" 180 and that was 32" waist. Even if it is all fat and no muscle he still can't be noticeably big and his previous weight is surely unhealthy amounts of skinny. Maybe I am wrong but in my head 5'9" 145 is near death skinny.

Maybe not fat by some standards, but I could certainly see someone being pretty damn chubby.

A guy that hasn't worked out or played sports at any point in their life putting on 20 pounds of mostly fat, is likely pretty chubby. Not that this description applies directly to the OP, but it could.

But you'd be surprised. I'm 5'9.5 and just hit 190lbs, and I still have a 31" waste and am not fat by any stretch at all. But a friend of mine is 5'10", 185lbs and has a decently sized beer belly going on and a closer to 38" waste. Muscle makes a huge difference.

[Zalius]

5'9.5 lol wtf. just say 5'9 or 5'10 man.

[Dimmauk]

i have no idea what i am doing and i HATEed working out (still find it boring) but i love the results.
I can now run farther, my endurance is better, i feel great and my clothes fit now!

i started at 5'10" 245 counting my Caloric intake and cutting down carbs, it has been 2 weeks i am now 230.
if you hate eating the plain healthy food look up Low-Cal Crock pot recipes they are yummy and super easy to make.

Whoa, we are almost the same build. I work out twice a week for about an hour and a half. Been married for 12 years and gained 40 pounds.

[Brutala]

Calories in - calories out doesn't seem to apply to me for fat mass at all. I've been skinny my whole life by default. I'm a small guy (I hover around 76 kilos at 178cm, this being the upper value when well hydrated, before crapping/pissing) and according to nutritiondata.self.com I'm eating 3500+ calories a day. My diet doesn't change when I'm not training. I've taken up to 2 months off from all physical activity without gaining any fat. In fact, I just lose some muscle like that. Either I haz aids or parasites or something, or fat people are doing something else terribly wrong besides eating too many calories and not exercising.

[RKenshin]

5'9.5 lol wtf. just say 5'9 or 5'10 man.

omg, I'm smack dab exactly at 5'9.5"

rounding up is lying and rounding down makes me feel sad, so there

[Dimmauk]

I'm 6 foot with my morning Afro.

[Mazmaz]

egg yolks are fucking fatass shit. what the fuck. bacon and egg yolks are both bullshit if you're trying to lose weight. they're not even decent sources of protein considering egg yolks are 3:1 fat to protein ratio and bacon is about the same.

(EDIT: WHO THE FUCK DECIDED SMILIES SHOULD HAVE PRIORITIES OVER RATIOS. SOME PEOPLE USE COLONS WHEN THEY TYPE GODDAMMIT)

egg yolks are not fucking loaded with vitamins and minerals, they're not even that different than bacon. what the fuck are you saying. broccoli is loaded with vitamins and minerals, not egg yolks. egg yolks are higher fat content than fucking bacon and have like 1 vitamin (B12 in low/eh amounts) and some other fucking useless shit that IIRC is supposed to promote healthy hearts which is totally counteracted by all the fucking fat in the egg yolk.

room in diet (the consistent habituation of eating, not fucking atkins or whatever the fuck retarded 16 year old girls and fat unintelligent single people try to lose weight) is not something you fuck around with. if you have 200 extra calories in the day, that's your fucking weight loss. that's not your fucking room for egg yolk. that's room at best for the 70-100 calories of salad dressing that saves you 200 more calories and improves your overall diet because you're eating a salad instead of french fries. that = 300 calories. add to the fact that your digestive, muscular, cardiovascular and respiratory systems are all going to be better off having eaten a salad


the fucking shit.

ITT you think all saturated fats are the same.

[Zalius]

gtfo. this has nothing to do with saturated or monounsaturated or polyunsaturated or trans fat. this is a guy that wants to drop 20 lbs, which can be done with very mild changes to diet and minor increases in physical activity. 2-3 lbs per week is fucking faceroll. but sure, educate the guy that wants to drop a quick 20 lbs on the nuances of saturated fat. make sure to let him know why hydrogenated oils are bad too, he'll sure give a fuck.

egg yolks are fucking stupid recommendation for a regular guy that wants to drop 20 lbs. shut the fuck up. anything that has 75% fat content up front is relatively terrible unless it's being used as the fat source in the diet, which is most-likely-not-the-case or he probably wouldn't be 20 lbs away from where he wants to be.

one more time
shut the fuck up

[Zalius]

im a fucking faggot

look i can change what people say and then make a useless comment without providing any information like a little bitch too

"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence."
-Christopher Hitchens

[shaddix]

Well, some funny posts here... But the fact is that unless you're eating solely protein+DHA/AA(which is a valid method for short term fat loss, not the healthiest), you have to get some fuel from somewhere.

An egg yolk is one of the most nutrient dense foods on the planet, and the only time and place I could think that you would recommend to someone to avoid a whole egg is if they were allergic to them.

Bacon certainly isn't in the same league as eggs when it comes to value for the calories, but it is fucking delicious, and once again you have to get your fuel from somewhere unless you want to eat 800kcal/day.

[Zalius]

anything that has 75% fat content up front is relatively terrible unless it's being used as the fat source in the diet, which is most-likely-not-the-case or he probably wouldn't be 20 lbs away from where he wants to be.

already accounted for but ty 4 input.

there are a thousand different ways (that is an extremely low estimate) to approach dropping 20 lbs that can all work. yes, you can eat an egg or two a day and still lose weight, but that's mostly because getting to a basic level of fitness is, again, faceroll. nuts+fish & poultry are going to be more consistent+sustainable+variable over the long term though. didn't even say eggs should be eliminated. but the nutrient density of eggs doesn't matter if eating large amounts also fucks up fat % intake or if the nutrients can't be accessed through different means like a very basic diversity of vegetables, a couple of choice fruits and fish+poultry wonderteam.

looked it up to double check, confirmed. 10% vitamin b12 per egg is probably the most notable mention. cool, 30% for 3 eggs. that's also what, 660-900 calories, with the majority of that being fat? Ok, let's be nice and say you're eating 3,000 calories per day and the 3 eggs are 600 calories. let's lowball fat % to 50% instead of the expected 65-75. cool, 10% DV of fat in 3 eggs. Now balance your carbs and your protein out in a way that's sustainable and healthy without going over 12-18% fat intake. let's also just pretend that you're on the low end of these numbers so that it's only 10%.

excess fat needs a lower fat % intake to start dropping fat. increasing digestive function and physical activity will also help. this is ABC shit.

[richardd]

a lot of the population still think bacon and egg yolks are the devil lol

egg yolks are fucking fatass shit. what the fuck. bacon and egg yolks are both bullshit if you're trying to lose weight.

see? lol

this would be so much easier if i could play a RL card and ask you to post a pic and i post one and see which one of us looks like we know the fuck we're talking about, lol. but im not going to. i still love you, you fucking Egyptian, but you need to do more research. because your posts reek of stupid.

they're not even decent sources of protein considering egg yolks are 3:1 fat to protein ratio and bacon is about the same.

i really could end this here, because i've had conversations like this before. and its useless. its like trying to explain evolution to a christian with blind faith. but what the hell, im bored.

so its my turn.

eggs are arguably THE best proteins you can EVER put in your body. period. and that includes the yolk. this just in. you NEED those fats. you couldnt get fat off of them even if you tried, lol. show me an article that proves why egg yolks are the devil that has conclusive evidence supporting your statement that you dont find on google and not written by a self proclaimed dietician and i'll rethink this whole process. and im being serious, im not trying to sound provocative. im ALWAYS willing to learn. but really. there are biased opinions everywhere. i could say i've lost 25 lbs of fat in 3 months in my last cutting cycle, and 25% of my diet consisted of whole eggs. my blood pressure and conditioning is immaculate. it doesnt mean it should be an accurate stapling to my statements. its been proven over and over again that egg yolks are more beneficial for vitamins than an actual multivitamin ffs, lol. i mean really. your statements remind me of the of 80's research on nutrition.

so lets lay down the facts, kk?

• eggs yolks are flooded with essential fatty acids that your body CANNOT produce on its own.
• your body will absorb vitamins from the yolk just as much as it would from other sources, excluding supplements
• there is NO conclusive evidence that supports egg yolks increasing heart disease. So please tell me how someone can become a 'fatass' from this.
• eggs, and egg yolks are the staple to most diets now. not just atkins (which i agree is dumb, you need carbs), but everywhere you look. look at the most successful fitness models, bodybuilders and powerlifters. eggwhites are a thing of the past. whole eggs are the way to go.
• eating farm grown eggs gives you even more benefits to healthy weight and fat loss, even though normal eggs get the job done, too

room in diet (the consistent habituation of eating, not fucking atkins or whatever the fuck retarded 16 year old girls and fat unintelligent single people try to lose weight) is not something you fuck around with. if you have 200 extra calories in the day, that's your fucking weight loss. that's not your fucking room for egg yolk. that's room at best for the 70-100 calories of salad dressing that saves you 200 more calories and improves your overall diet because you're eating a salad instead of french fries. that = 300 calories. add to the fact that your digestive, muscular, cardiovascular and respiratory systems are all going to be better off having eaten a salad

ok, i understand what you're saying here. and you're not 100% wrong. but you need to know this.
ALL CALORIES ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL

put yourself in the OP's position. the dude wants to lose weight. i never opt for anyone to lose weight, lose fat instead.

would you rather lose 20 lbs (6 lbs fat, 14 lbs muscle)and 1 inch of your jean size, while looking basically the same? or would you rather lose 12 lbs ( 1o lbs of fat, and 2 lbs of muscle) losing 2 inches and keeping your overall healthy mass?

your logic is correct. hell, i agreed with you on the 2nd page. you can eat 2000 calories worth of skittles if your intake requirement is only 2500 and still lose weight. where you're losing weight from is a different story.

but guess what? he can eat 3k calories of healthy fats, protiens, and carbs/fiber and STILL lose fat, while maintaining his muscle. maybe he's not losing weight, but he's losing inches off his belly or arm fat, or whatever the body feels like taking it. its not farfetched. and you dont have to be all 'jersey shore gym-onry' type of mentality to do it, either. brisk walks are fine to help stimulate the fat loss or any low intensity cardio (or intensity training if he/she gets bored).

you're better off eating what you enjoy and altering your lifestyle than getting temporary results by eating salads with balsamic vinegar dressing 24/7, until he loses enough weight to be satisfied with him/herself. most of the time, people who do that only lose mostly water. hence "temporary results"

Calories in - calories out doesn't seem to apply to me for fat mass at all. I've been skinny my whole life by default. I'm a small guy (I hover around 76 kilos at 178cm, this being the upper value when well hydrated, before crapping/pissing) and according to nutritiondata.self.com I'm eating 3500+ calories a day. My diet doesn't change when I'm not training. I've taken up to 2 months off from all physical activity without gaining any fat. In fact, I just lose some muscle like that. Either I haz aids or parasites or something, or fat people are doing something else terribly wrong besides eating too many calories and not exercising.

a lot of it has to do with genetics. just hang in there.


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already accounted for but ty 4 input.

there are a thousand different ways (that is an extremely low estimate) to approach dropping 20 lbs that can all work. yes, you can eat an egg or two a day and still lose weight, but that's mostly because getting to a basic level of fitness is, again, faceroll. nuts+fish & poultry are going to be more consistent+sustainable+variable over the long term though. didn't even say eggs should be eliminated. but the nutrient density of eggs doesn't matter if eating large amounts also fucks up fat % intake or if the nutrients can't be accessed through different means like a very basic diversity of vegetables, a couple of choice fruits and fish+poultry wonderteam.

looked it up to double check, confirmed. 10% vitamin b12 per egg is probably the most notable mention. cool, 30% for 3 eggs. that's also what, 660-900 calories, with the majority of that being fat? Ok, let's be nice and say you're eating 3,000 calories per day and the 3 eggs are 600 calories. let's lowball fat % to 50% instead of the expected 65-75. cool, 10% DV of fat in 3 eggs. Now balance your carbs and your protein out in a way that's sustainable and healthy without going over 12-18% fat intake. let's also hope that you're on the low end of these numbers.

excess fat needs a lower fat % intake to start dropping fat. increasing digestive function and physical activity will also help. this is ABC shit.

i really dont know where you're getting your information. you need to drop fat to lose fat? are you one of those people who buy low fat milk, and fat free dressings because the calories are lower? fats are fuel. if you dont use it, you're just going to shit it right out. not store it. this isnt sugars, or carbs. its FATS.

look man, get it how you live. im not gonna judge you on the the knowledge you feel is absolute. but dont spread it like you have the cure for aids.

besides, bacon tastes fucking delicious. i ate 44 oz of it a week and still dropped to 11% bodyfat, OMG THE DEVIL. i could've gotten lower, but i dont want my arm to look like giant penises since veins aren't particularly attractive. i was 6'2 and weighed 225 lbs.

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im not gonna say im the nutrition king around here, but im in college right now taking classes for it, and even my professor says "fat free foods are gimmicks". everyone should do a bit of research of what they think is unhealthy and you might be pleasantly surprised. i used to think sushi was healthy when i was starting off, along with granola, dried fruits and other things. after reading numerous articles from people with phd's, and none biased sources, i've altered my diet and learned not to be afraid of foods that seemed scary at 1st