Getting fat, need halp!

[Mazmaz]

i dont want my arm to look like giant penises since veins aren't particularly attractive

best thing in this thread. never thought of it that way lol

[Brutala]

looked it up to double check, confirmed. 10% vitamin b12 per egg is probably the most notable mention. cool, 30% for 3 eggs. that's also what, 660-900 calories, with the majority of that being fat? Ok, let's be nice and say you're eating 3,000 calories per day and the 3 eggs are 600 calories.

The same source that told you about the B12 could have told you that an egg is only ~90 calories.

a lot of it has to do with genetics. just hang in there.

Hang in there for what? I'm not trying to gain or lose weight. I guess I should've said my sport isn't weightlifting. I was just making sort of the same point you were; that the sheer # of calories doesn't have much to do with fat gain/loss.

[richardd]

The same source that told you about the B12 could have told you that an egg is only ~90 calories.


Hang in there for what? I'm not trying to gain or lose weight. I guess I should've said my sport isn't weightlifting. I was just making sort of the same point you were; that the sheer # of calories doesn't have much to do with fat gain/loss.

oh, sorry lol

i thought you wanted to put on mass <_>; you're a galka in FFXI anyways, lets just say that made up for it. i should've been a galka. my kraken drk would've been even more terrifying on the parse charts, baby

[Zalius]

k, was going to quote this shit but theres a lot of it. i never said anything about fat-free foods and even mentioned distributing fat to dressing instead of eggs. please google straw man.

in no particular order:

• this is an issue of perspective
• i never said anything about fat free foods and even accounted for dressings having 70-100 calories
• i drink almond milk because it tastes better, vanilla or dark chocolate
• the human body does not magically shit out 600 calories of fat
• i took 2 college nutrition classes, with various articles spanning 1920+ about the growth and changing natural of acceptable practice and common knowledge within nutrition. there were also 2 textbooks. it was going to be my major, but i picked music. very long and personal story.
• you mentioned genetics but did not account for this guys condition (lovingly coined the american body)
• heart disease+fatass? you are linking things together that im not even talking about
• it seems like most of your perspective is from bodybuilding, i respect that but that is not my approach towards basic nutrition.

topic has mostly spun out and is no longer really about this guys weight. it's about eggs. there's a million different ways to approach losing 20 lbs. my fatass beater 2012(tm) was mostly dedicated to the average american dude that wants to live a normal lifestyle and not have a gut. if the guy wants to live a high fitness or bodybuilder or paleo or whatever else lifestyle, more power to him.



as for the RL card, i have a hernia and want to work out with the passion of a thousand hungry tigers. there's also another problem under my ribcage, but I dont get the results for my CT back until Feb 2nd @ 2:30 PM, at which point i will know wtf is wrong with me and can get in line for surgery. i can walk around at low speeds, but any stretching or movement involving my core is out of the picture and has been since the middle of august. i've basically been playing guitar and building websites/writing for the last 3-4 months while unable to work a regular job or pick things up. aside from that i have a very lean build, i run places for fun, workout 4x a week and had 2 ninja (ninpo-taijutsu) classes a week with friends, taught by an ex-army friends dad.

i'm 5'6 and aside from physical injuries in immaculate health in terms of basic vitals. ive got flab back and my muscles are whack but that's what happens when you can't use them very much for 6 (edit: 5 i cant count) months. it stings on the inside. evidence to back everything in this post up if you'd like to dispute it, otherwise holy fuck i've needed to shit since before i started typing this

[Zalius]

The same source that told you about the B12 could have told you that an egg is only ~90 calories.


Hang in there for what? I'm not trying to gain or lose weight. I guess I should've said my sport isn't weightlifting. I was just making sort of the same point you were; that the sheer # of calories doesn't have much to do with fat gain/loss.

actually the asshole site (nutritiondata.self.com was first source i used) counts calorie information from 1 cup eggs but lists the nutrient content of a single egg. that's pretty fucking bullshit but i shoulda known that was a little off

[Zalius]

and by a little i mean goddammit 110-210 calories

edit: ok seriously bathroom time

[richardd]

[LIST][*]this is an issue of perspective

i really dont care about your life story, the same way you feel about mine, lol. i still think you're a funny guy and all, but i'd be lying if i said you didnt lose a bunch of credibility with the information you posted. had you said this in the 1st place instead of "fatass shit, fuck this, fuck that, etc" and coming off rude, i would've just ignored you, lol.
but now you are turning the other way around and taking back things you said previously, so either way, go take your shit.


oh and btw. its hard to take you serious with the accusations you make on your statements. you took all these nutrition classes before you went to music (which i think is cool btw. do NOT take that the wrong way) but yet you say, "you cannot lose 600 calories of fat from pooping". one of the 1st things you learn in NOT only nutrition, but other classes like anatomy is waste. sure, there are calories in comparison to microbes. aka shit that you shit, but guess what. whatever fat your body doesnt use, it exutes as waste. PERIOD. im not lying about anything im saying. when i say i ate 44 oz of bacon a week while cutting, i REALLY DID eat 44 oz of bacon a week while cutting. sometimes more, lol. with that logic, i should've not only gained weight, but stored fat and blew up. but i didnt. microbes is waste and bacteria of the fats your body never used. on days i didnt lift and recovered, you better believed i was playing psp games and getting rid of fats my body wasnt going to use as fuel. fats are NOTHING to be afraid of. i swear to God, show me a person that can get fat off of fats, and i will show you someone who's got a serious case of bowel issues. this includes the average american.

(ps. to all your lurkers: bacteria can be good for your body, so dont think its bad because i mentioned it. greek yogurt taste like milk semen, but its healthy as hell and loaded with good bacteria)

[Zalius]

1. goddammit stop taking my yogurt thunder, the fatass slayer guide 2012(tm) already expressly stated that yogurt was badass, greek yogurt was better for protein but regular yogurt was sweeter. you're infringing on my creative works motherfucker
2. i am at least 30-60% douchebag on any given day. sometimes less, sometimes more.
3. mcdoggles, 600 calories of fat is 5.4 KG of shit. do you shit 5.4KG/day, wtf. i also said the human body does not magically shit out 600 calories of fat, not that it was impossible to lose that much via poop holes.
4. ya i was wrong about egg calorie counts. i make the mistakes around these parts. the site that betrayed me when i did the math was http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...products/111/2 but the % on B12 isn't listen on the site. scraped off google (checked 3 pages), but didn't notice that the first page was measuring in cups for calorie count. i estimated post-cooking calories of 347 to between 220-300, partly because my intuition said 350 calories was too high, partly to account for calories lost in cooking (too lazy to navigate) and partly because of another reason that i forgot while typing but will probably come back to me within the next 2-100 hours out of the blue when I'm doing a completely unrelated task.


and im just sayin, if somebody's gonna play the RL card on me when i don't have my 6 pack anymore, i'm going to tell them why because i am fucking disgruntled as fuck and i want to go jogging goddammit. sit down and dont move quickly or run or workout or pick things up off of your floor without paying for it for 5 months and tell me how many people you call an asshole/faggot/motherfucker/stupid cunt in a day. especially the fat ones that have no excuse.

[richardd]

1. goddammit stop taking my yogurt thunder, the fatass slayer guide 2012(tm) already expressly stated that yogurt was badass, greek yogurt was better for protein but regular yogurt was sweeter. you're infringing on my creative works motherfucker
2. i am at least 30-60% douchebag on any given day. sometimes less, sometimes more.
3. mcdoggles, 600 calories of fat is 5.4 KG of shit. do you shit 5.4KG/day, wtf. i also said the human body does not magically shit out 600 calories of fat, not that it was impossible to lose that much via poop holes.
4. ya i was wrong about egg calorie counts. i make the mistakes around these parts. the site that betrayed me when i did the math was http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/...products/111/2 but the % on B12 isn't listen on the site. scraped off google (checked 3 pages), but didn't notice that the first page was measuring in cups for calorie count. i estimated post-cooking calories of 347 to between 220-300, partly because my intuition said 350 calories was too high, partly to account for calories lost in cooking (too lazy to navigate) and partly because of another reason that i forgot while typing but will probably come back to me within the next 2-100 hours out of the blue when I'm doing a completely unrelated task.


and im just sayin, if somebody's gonna play the RL card on me when i don't have my 6 pack anymore, i'm going to tell them why because i am fucking disgruntled as fuck and i want to go jogging goddammit. sit down and dont move quickly or run or workout or pick things up off of your floor without paying for it for 5 months and tell me how many people you call an asshole/faggot/motherfucker/stupid cunt in a day. especially the fat ones that have no excuse.

its ok lol. at least you're being nice about it now

and the calories from your poops dont mean shit when most of it contain fat absorbing, bacteria infested microbes that your body will not use. so in the end.. im still right ;x sorry lol, but i DO understand what you're saying, and yes. the body cannot literally shit out 600 calories of ANYTHING in one given session, let alone, maybe more. but, it'll still exute any fat you have that you will not use for fuel. which is why i was emphasizing the importance of it earlier. thats all. fats are great for every single occasion, whether it be fat loss, muscle gain or even weight loss with a calorie deficit.

and i do see your point. any kind of rehab sucks donkey cock. i do my workouts in full perfect form, even if i have to lower weight so i dont have to be in the same position as you as time goes by, lol.

[Zalius]

injuries not from form. combination of shitty job conditions + sparring with ninjas (literally sparring with fucking ninjas) + ignoring the early stages.

also i'm going to sleep, dear OP sorry we hijacked your thread for eggs but you had it coming.

i still require evidence of all unused fat being removed immediately because that i did not at all learn that and am not quick to throw away that little tidbit due to biological anthropology on why people like cheeseburgers and pizza (human body's predisposition to storing fat). if i'm wrong i'm wrong but that does not sound right

[Mazmaz]

I think greek yogurt tastes amazing. My mom hated yogurt and tried greek yogurt and she likes it too. Am I eating fake greek yogurt and not know it?
http://mrsjanuary.com/wordpress/wp-c...rte-Coupon.jpg

[richardd]

I think greek yogurt tastes amazing. My mom hated yogurt and tried greek yogurt and she likes it too. Am I eating fake greek yogurt and not know it?
http://mrsjanuary.com/wordpress/wp-c...rte-Coupon.jpg

what do you eat it with? lol

if you say it doesnt suck, i guess i can give it another try. last time i had it was about a year ago, and it tasted like a cold ash tray

[Mazmaz]

By itself... it's all creamy and shit. I have like one serving or more (175+ grams). Maybe I'm super weird though. I like cottage cheese by itself too.

[Ashmada]

ALRIGHT PUSSY. PREPARE YOURSELF.
[*]eat yogurt for a week at the beginning of the month. or all the time because its fucking delicious. greek yogurt is ideal for protein % but it's not as sweet as regular yogurt. find some shit you like, buy in bulk (get 2+ flavors or you will get bored of them thus wasting $$)

Does not compute.
And shit, that's a lot of time spent thinking about food.



I've got a question for you health enthusiasts: I'm (slightly) worried I might be lacking in some nutrients/vitamins/wuteva, but not enough to trawl through several articles talking about food, so I thought I'd ask if my diet was sustainable here:

As alluded to previously, I don't eat fruit/veg (potatoes excepted), because I'm no fucking herbivore and that shit tastes/smells horrible: is a diet of meat, cheese, egg-based products and bread providing all the necessary nutrients? If so, what quantities should one need?

I know I get proteins from meat, ascorbic acid from potatoes and IIRC eggs+cheese should cover A and Bs?

(ps: fat is no immediate concern)

[BerenTebogo]

I cannot stand yogurt

[Kerberoz]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Food_woo

[Mazmaz]

Christ plz not Kerb in this thread.

As alluded to previously, I don't eat fruit/veg (potatoes excepted), because I'm no fucking herbivore and that shit tastes/smells horrible: is a diet of meat, cheese, egg-based products and bread providing all the necessary nutrients? If so, what quantities should one need?

I know I get proteins from meat, ascorbic acid from potatoes and IIRC eggs+cheese should cover A and Bs?

(ps: fat is no immediate concern)

Take multivitamins I guess? Just eat an apple a day.

[shaddix]

Does not compute.
And shit, that's a lot of time spent thinking about food.



I've got a question for you health enthusiasts: I'm (slightly) worried I might be lacking in some nutrients/vitamins/wuteva, but not enough to trawl through several articles talking about food, so I thought I'd ask if my diet was sustainable here:

As alluded to previously, I don't eat fruit/veg (potatoes excepted), because I'm no fucking herbivore and that shit tastes/smells horrible: is a diet of meat, cheese, egg-based products and bread providing all the necessary nutrients? If so, what quantities should one need?

I know I get proteins from meat, ascorbic acid from potatoes and IIRC eggs+cheese should cover A and Bs?

(ps: fat is no immediate concern)

Meat and potatoes and eggs are great. You should probably throw in some liver, it is better than any vegetable when it comes to nutrient density. Of course it does taste and smell horrible......... I'm still trying to find a good recipe for beef liver.

If you don't go outside a lot I would also suggest vitamin D supplement, maybe some fermented cod liver oil.

edit: i like plain greek yogurt!

[Ashmada]

This is really a thing?
http://www.goldismoney2.com/attachme...841014&thumb=1

[Deejay]

what do you eat it with? lol

if you say it doesnt suck, i guess i can give it another try. last time i had it was about a year ago, and it tasted like a cold ash tray

that shit is sickening. dont do it