FFXIII-2: Post Release Discussion

[Jaxzer]

Ok so I just got two back-to-back jackpots in super victory mode from the slots and no trophy popped, what gives?

[Ansems]

need to earn 10k coins

[Jaxzer]

Looks like in one sitting

[Burningthought]

Looks like in one sitting

I vaguely remember something about it being earn over 7,777 coins. I think you just usually hit that after the jackpots.

[Sephiroth]

I've beaten the story and seen like 5 paradox endings yet I've still never been to Vile Peaks.

[Burningthought]

I've beaten the story and seen like 5 paradox endings yet I've still never been to Vile Peaks.

Yeah it happens, Vile Peaks has a very short playtime compared to other areas.

[Appie]

meh I think it was a smart move to make haste hard to obtain.

Hard to obtain? Afaik, even pets don't learn it and even if they did, takes way too long to have 1 AI SYN haste the whole group.

[Evane]

Ok so I just got two back-to-back jackpots in super victory mode from the slots and no trophy popped, what gives?

IIRC you have to quit playing the slots to get the trophy. If you have already obtained the lucky coin fragment before getting the 2 jackpots, then I guess you already obtained 10k coins.

[Spira]

Chocobo racing wins count towards this too btw, in case you like to do that anyway..

[Alkar]

I wouldn't call Serah a "terrible SAB". She sucks as SYN but she surely isn't terrible with debuffs. Noel is a good SAB too because he learns all of Serah's spells except the -ga ones.
Monsters have better spells, sure, but I've never needed a SAB because Serah is good enough.

[Ansems]

Hard to obtain? Afaik, even pets don't learn it and even if they did, takes way too long to have 1 AI SYN haste the whole group.

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[Xanthe]

Ok so I just got two back-to-back jackpots in super victory mode from the slots and no trophy popped, what gives?

The trophy doesn't require winning 10,000 coins. It requires a 10,000 coin profit. So if you spend 7,000 coins in the process, you would need to win a total of 17,000 coins. That's why most guides recommend chocobo races over the slots. In fact, it's statistically impossible to make a profit from the slots unless you play them manually.

[Ansems]

The trophy doesn't require winning 10,000 coins. It requires a 10,000 coin profit. So if you spend 7,000 coins in the process, you would need to win a total of 17,000 coins. That's why most guides recommend chocobo races over the slots. In fact, it's statistically impossible to make a profit from the slots unless you play them manually.

>_> thats bullshit I won by laying down on by bed in the next room talking to my friends while holding down l1 and I spent coin way before winning the trophy.

[Manf]

Also, it's not remotely impossible. I rubber banded L1 down and went to sleep (for 9hours) and woke up to the trophy, the fragment, and like 20k coins in profit. The guide is misguided a bit on some things. I think it might be wrong on how much the mood affects your chances exactly, or I got EXTREMELY lucky. I'd figure 9 hours worth of slots and you'd be skewing towards the expected value (which the guide says you'll make back 99% of what you spend). This is what ps3 trohphy guides says: "Earn a total of 10,000 Casino Coins from Chocobo Racing and/or Slot Machines in the casino, Serendipity. You *cannot* exchange Gil for Casino Coins and have it count toward this trophy (however, such exchanges *do* count toward Choco-boco-holic [Bronze Trophy] ). The coins need to be earned, and note that it is a NET GAIN of 10,000 Casino Coins ie. coin losses subtract from the total earned. This means it is vital to save beforehand and load if you lose a bunch of coins." Which is what Xanthe is saying.

[Katlan]

The trophy doesn't require winning 10,000 coins. It requires a 10,000 coin profit. So if you spend 7,000 coins in the process, you would need to win a total of 17,000 coins. That's why most guides recommend chocobo races over the slots. In fact, it's statistically impossible to make a profit from the slots unless you play them manually.

Never did choco racing and bought 5k coins... saved at random intervals when I hit victory / super victory mode and got a lucky roll (always did L1). I got the lucky coin and the trophy w/in 1:30. but i guess I got super lucky

[miokomioko]

it's statistically impossible to make a profit from the slots unless you play them manually.

And why does playing them manually make a difference? Is the auto-play rigged? Or are you implying that you can actually time the reels? (because that's bull)

[Manf]

The guide says that the odds are stacked (even more so) against you with auto-play, but I don't think that is right as I was saying.

[Katlan]

That's what ppl say, but it's prolly only a worse chance if you actually really try to learn the system and figure out when to press and stuff. Anybody doing it manually though is crazy. Save/reload if super bad luck is all u need. And save after every good luck

[Nevex]

I wouldn't call Serah a "terrible SAB". She sucks as SYN but she surely isn't terrible with debuffs. Noel is a good SAB too because he learns all of Serah's spells except the -ga ones.
Monsters have better spells, sure, but I've never needed a SAB because Serah is good enough.

SAB regular spells have been horribly nerfed in this game. Normal Deprotect and Deshell increase the damage dealt by 30% (it was +90% in FFXIII).
Monsters have access to Deprotect/shell 2 (+ 66% damage) and Hyper Deprotect/Shell (+90%).

Been said that, Serah still gets the job done, but SAB monsters can occasionally make a big difference.

[Appie]

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Oh yeah those, still means SYN useless though, which was more the point of what I said.