Random Fail XIII: I FOR FUCKING LAST TIME TALLING YOU

[Viar]

Corsair doesn't get fucked with single target rolls... Yeah I went there.

It does. The fact that you can't single target means it's 100x harder to do specific buffs for ppl if someone just benefits from different buffs. I often have to ask RNGs to move around for rolls since they don't need DA.

[Kincard]

After seeing what JP players have done to anyone back when NNI came into play, almost any situation could cause a permanent ban then. Unrealistic? Maybe. Far-fetched ? Doubtful.

Did I miss something? I'm pretty sure cheating, however minor, was/is the norm in NNI for the majority of the players that post here. I've been annoyed by the JP ONRY since day 1 of playing this game just like anyone else, but I've always been baffled by a bunch of the players on the EN side talking about how there's double standards for JP players even though they're actually doing the things they're being accused of.

[bechyni]

itt jps dont cheat

[Darkmagi]

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/34...er-end-game-ls
I'm speechless.

[bechyni]

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[Jem]

A lot of VW shouts are usually stalled forever because nobody wants to be BLU or BRD or something else where they don't get to show their e-peens for 3 minutes or less on a fight.

Honestly, I only go DD to VW shouts 90% of the time because of how bad the vast majority of PUG DD's are. The sheer number of times I've parsed 30%, 35%, 40%+ in PUG VW groups is mindboggling. I have no idea how some people manage to be so bad. There was 1 Qilin group I went with where I parsed like 40% and the second best DD was a COR who parsed ~10% meleeing.

It's just too painful to watch and wastes more time than necessary when I'm go on backline jobs. It's just far easier to go DD and not risk taking an hour to do 6 Qilins

[S N K]

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/34...er-end-game-ls
I'm speechless.

Holy fuck at that thread.

[Kincard]

itt jps dont cheat

You're missing the point and putting words in my mouth. I never said JPs don't cheat. JPs don't go around flaunting their blatant cheating on forums, I'm pretty sure I've never even heard of anything similar being done even on 2ch and that's a totally anonymous board. Your implication that JPs also cheat lacks any evidence other than just you not liking JPs, while there's plenty of evidences that ENs do cheat all the time.

And, just as an aside, I play with JPs on a semi-regular basis and I find it's very apparent that JPs cheating happens far less often than EN cheating does. Go ahead and say that my experience is limited/they're lying or whatever, but my limited experience with playing with JPs is opposed to the majority of EN players who usually have zero experience playing with JPs.

EDIT:

To make it more clear, this is a clear case of selection bias/random assumptions. The claim is that JPs don't get jailed when they're cheating while ENs do. Two things:

1. You have no evidence that the JPs were cheating
2. People are butthurt because they were caught cheating

This is just as absurd as accusing some random EN group of being given favoritism because they wern't jailed when you GM'd them because you were oh-so-sure they were cheating. The statement has no evidence other than just your emotional need to be pissed off at JP players for no reason.

[bechyni]

You're missing the point and putting words in my mouth. I never said JPs don't cheat. JPs don't go around flaunting their blatant cheating on forums, I'm pretty sure I've never even heard of anything similar being done even on 2ch and that's a totally anonymous board. Your implication that JPs also cheat lacks any evidence other than just you not liking JPs, while there's plenty of evidences that ENs do cheat all the time.

And, just as an aside, I play with JPs on a semi-regular basis and I find it's very apparent that JPs cheating happens far less often than EN cheating does. Go ahead and say that my experience is limited/they're lying or whatever, but my limited experience with playing with JPs is opposed to the majority of EN players who usually have zero experience playing with JPs.

Lol you're a funny guy. I play with tons of JPs and I don't think they cheat that much!

[Kincard]

Then I'd have to assume your initial statement was just sarcasm, to which I can only excuse myself by saying it's hard to see any sort of sarcasm in the XI community anymore because people regularly say even dumber things with total sincerity all the time.

EDIT:

Just to balance this out, the opposite claim has come from JP players at times (That EN players arn't punished for cheating) and I get just as much a hair in my ass when they go on about it as when EN players do.

[Khajit]

That last page with the idiot brd makes me surprised Isladar didn't hand out banhammers for retardation.

[Karah]

Just let it go~

[sluggo]

Honestly, I only go DD to VW shouts 90% of the time because of how bad the vast majority of PUG DD's are. The sheer number of times I've parsed 30%, 35%, 40%+ in PUG VW groups is mindboggling. I have no idea how some people manage to be so bad. There was 1 Qilin group I went with where I parsed like 40% and the second best DD was a COR who parsed ~10% meleeing.

It's just too painful to watch and wastes more time than necessary when I'm go on backline jobs. It's just far easier to go DD and not risk taking an hour to do 6 Qilins

Welcome to Asura. Granted it has gotten better here - it used to be real hit and miss which was disappointing. I was one of those slacker dds too till i started reading more and making adjustments and realized what I was doing wrong. Now I hardly ever even see an ig-alima go past 5min - and even on the event of a wipe or 2 or a few 15min runs the ally usually just wholly agrees that it's just not working and disbands.

[LiquidFriend]

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[Jem]

Welcome to Asura. Granted it has gotten better here - it used to be real hit and miss which was disappointing. I was one of those slacker dds too till i started reading more and making adjustments and realized what I was doing wrong. Now I hardly ever even see an ig-alima go past 5min - and even on the event of a wipe or 2 or a few 15min runs the ally usually just wholly agrees that it's just not working and disbands.

Yeah, I've been on Asura since the start so sadly I know how much we fail as a server. It was why I never did anything PUG until after I returned September this year. Even then it's only because my hand was forced by virtually all my friends/ls being decimated by people quitting. There's no reason any VW should be alive for longer than 3 minutes really and the vast majority, stuff like Ig-Alima included, should be dead in 2. They rarely are though unless you make sure you take 3 or so competent DD's.

I don't expect everyone to even have Empys/Relics (which most do nowadays anyway) but to at least be semi-competent. I don't know how some people can be so bad when even as little as using an easily accesible TP + WS set and using temp items should make you parse half decently as long as you're using a relevant WS and are skilled up. I honestly think the vast majority of PUG DD's I could outparse simply by auto-attacking. It's so sad to see DD's with Empys/Relics parse so badly when it takes so little effort to parse well.

[Kohan]

That last page with the idiot brd makes me surprised Isladar didn't hand out banhammers for retardation.

It was in the right thread, both popularized and showcased the failure's lack of worth, and then, the topic naturally moved on to other matters (e.g., "JP Only"). I label it a job well done in the realm of revealing wastes of space.

[sluggo]

Yeah, I've been on Asura since the start so sadly I know how much we fail as a server. It was why I never did anything PUG until after I returned September this year. Even then it's only because my hand was forced by virtually all my friends/ls being decimated by people quitting. There's no reason any VW should be alive for longer than 3 minutes really and the vast majority, stuff like Ig-Alima included, should be dead in 2. They rarely are though unless you make sure you take 3 or so competent DD's.

I don't expect everyone to even have Empys/Relics (which most do nowadays anyway) but to at least be semi-competent. I don't know how some people can be so bad when even as little as using an easily accesible TP + WS set and using temp items should make you parse half decently as long as you're using a relevant WS and are skilled up. I honestly think the vast majority of PUG DD's I could outparse simply by auto-attacking. It's so sad to see DD's with Empys/Relics parse so badly when it takes so little effort to parse well.

I think things will progressively get better as people continue to upgrade their stuff, runs seem to be going smoother it seems everyday. I don't know if its the gear or people starting to realize wtf they are doing, but compared to say 6 months ago you saw a lot of 85 ukons and hoarfroast blades running around vs everyone and their mothers having a 99rag or at least a 90 or 95 empy/relic (which does make a big difference even if you are herp derpin on the mob). I remember going 0/12 or so on rex months ago to doing him with relative ease or just flat out easy with a displacer split now.


Just have to remember hope only leads to disappointment!

[Fondue]

Speaking of asuran pug Rex, went 3/6 WITH displacers the other day with malware leading. Didn't help everyone was caps lock yelling at each other start to malware disbanding the ally and warping out halfway.. Given up hope on tabard. If its not malware leading its ehrenjohn

[sluggo]

Speaking of asuran pug Rex, went 3/6 WITH displacers the other day with malware leading. Didn't help everyone was caps lock yelling at each other start to malware disbanding the ally and warping out halfway.. Given up hope on tabard. If its not malware leading its ehrenjohn

Isn't malware just coming back to the game? I've only done qilin with john i think and theyve all been smooth fwiw. Just watch out if I'm shouting - I think I took 8 blms into a qilin one time >.>;; we won easily though... iirc.

[Fondue]

idk, people were instantly offended by him telling them what to do and then it just went up in flames from there

blms in that group nuking in scythes, whms in nobles.. people have no shame it was just a bad group but I'd never fought it with displacers before and it still wrecked us when nobody procced before 50%