Random Fail XIII: I FOR FUCKING LAST TIME TALLING YOU

[S N K]

I didn't realize that currency being at an all-time low and every piece available for less than 8k was over-inflated, but ok.

Inflation etc I guess. 8k or 6k either way there's no point in overpaying when you don't have to. Yes you're right in saying currency in cheaper then it was years ago but that doesn't mean you should go buckwild in buying everything in sight.

this mainly.

Not everyone is Zouri even tho I wish I was. Let me rephrase it since you seem to be grasping for something. I do indeed have a sizeable amount of gil but I'm not so rich that I can just buy a mythic or a relic without making myself broke in the process. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going into my mog house and taking a swim in my gil.

[Dotsudoku]

..you realize you're still paying the same price? Every time you don't sell the currency you farm you're paying for the currency

[Cairthenn]

That's not completely true considering that buying currency slightly deducts from available supply (and selling adds to it), but given that we're not dealing with a scare resource that's not particularly relevant either.

But I mean you're probably saving like a tenth of a percent of the cost while still working your way there!

[Dotsudoku]

Even if it were scarce enough to impact the market(which I don't really consider to be true), he'd probably end up breaking even by very minimally increasing his farming rate after outright buying his Guttler

Regardless, I was more alluding to the fact that the concept of opportunity cost seems to be flying over his head

[Cairthenn]

A tenth of a percent!

[S N K]

..you realize you're still paying the same price? Every time you don't sell the currency you farm you're paying for the currency

I sell the currency I'm not using. Selling off Bynes and Opieces and in turn I use that gil to purchase whiteshells. Like I said, I farm dynamis every few days so I usually take home about 150 to 190 coins a run.

Even if it were scarce enough to impact the market(which I don't really consider to be true), he'd probably end up breaking even by very minimally increasing his farming rate after outright buying his Guttler

Regardless, I was more alluding to the fact that the concept of opportunity cost seems to be flying over his head

See I can agree with what you're saying for the most part but, I still do sell currency that I get in dynamis that I don't use. Like I said before, working a lot has cut my playtime down so I don't have the option to farm dynamis everyday like I'd want to. I'm not rushing to finish the relic and it'll get done eventually. I figure I'll have it done in 2 or so more months once I get some more freetime to sit down and really dig into finishing it. I'm not sure how you translated what I said earlier into me never selling currency I farm in dynamis to buy more currency but I apologize if you missunderstood what I was saying.~

[Dotsudoku]

Okay, but with the exception of what Jinjo half heartily mentioned, you're still not spending less on your relic, lol

Farming Dynamis at the same rate while outright buying the weapon would still cost you virtually the same amount

[detlef]

Finishing the relic sooner rather than later would improve his performance in Dynamis, putting him ahead of where he would be if he only farmed the rest of the currency.

[Darkmagi]

^ you are in fact losing gil by not buying the currency.

[S N K]

Okay, but with the exception of what Jinjo half heartily mentioned, you're still not spending less on your relic, lol

Farming Dynamis at the same rate while outright buying the weapon would still cost you virtually the same amount

Well I'll be truthful in saying that Dynamis obviously isn't my only form of making gil. There's several ways I bring in a decent amount of gil but I'm not sure how just farming currency to sell it vs outright buying the relic would cost me more then less. Maybe I'm missing something but I'm not spending any money inside dynamis outside of 1 pet jug and a few shots of pet food. Bynes and Opieces cost more then Whiteshells so selling that in turn allows me to buy whiteshells at a cheaper price so I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to present.

Finishing the relic sooner rather than later would improve his performance in Dynamis, putting him ahead of where he would be if he only farmed the rest of the currency.

I won't deny this.

[Dotsudoku]

You are missing something. Not selling the currency you're putting into your relic is the same as purchasing it. It doesn't matter if you're farming and selling other types of currency. You're farming. Your farming is going into something that has value. Your thing that has value is being used for something else that has value. That value could be exchanged for something else with value.

I'll leave you alone about it, because this isn't a particularly exciting fail, but do some reading if you care to understand what everyone's talking about, and even if you don't, trust that we're not lying to you about arbitrarily getting what you want later than you have to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost

[Khajit]

I'm fairly sure he knows this. The thing is he's probably not willing to risk the loss of any possible purchases he might make while regaining the required amount of currency savings opportunity.
I'm sure i'd facepalm if right after buying 5 marrows i saw a stripeshell for 5 mil and couldn't buy or something silly like that. It's about wanting the liquid assets available for use even if it would be a wise decision to ignore the random chance you you find a great deal/item to buy while rebuilding gil.

[Dotsudoku]

He's explained several times now that he doesn't understand it; he thinks opportunity cost ceases to exist when he's selling and keeping parts of what he farms

[Cairthenn]

Perhaps he can exist outside of the natural order of space-time.

[Fake]

Viewpoint is generally considered a giant retard anyway, so if anyone has a chance of believing that delusion, then its him.

[S N K]

You are missing something. Not selling the currency you're putting into your relic is the same as purchasing it. It doesn't matter if you're farming and selling other types of currency. You're farming. Your farming is going into something that has value. Your thing that has value is being used for something else that has value. That value could be exchanged for something else with value.

Ok I can kinda see the point you're getting at but here's what is throwing me off. A decent run nets me about 185 coins soloing. Let's say I get about 61 coins of each currency. Opieces & Bynes are going for 7500 gil per single on average. Keeping the Whiteshells that's about 915,000 gil extra in currency I'm selling. Whiteshells sell for on average 6500 gil per single. So taking that extra money I made from the currency I no longer need, I can use that to purchase whiteshells which are of course cheaper. I'm not sure excatly how it comes out that I'm losing gil by not buying currency or maybe I worded something wrong earlier but I'll take a look at the link you posted.

I don't think you're being malicious or being an ass Dotsu but I really was confused at how it came across as me losing gil by not straight up purchasing the currency instead of just farming the whiteshells and selling the other coins which in turn I use to purchase more whiteshells.

I'm fairly sure he knows this. The thing is he's probably not willing to risk the loss of any possible purchases he might make while regaining the required amount of currency savings opportunity.
I'm sure i'd facepalm if right after buying 5 marrows i saw a stripeshell for 5 mil and couldn't buy or something silly like that. It's about wanting the liquid assets available for use even if it would be a wise decision to ignore the random chance you you find a great deal/item to buy while rebuilding gil.

@ the Bolded. This is pretty much it in a nutshell. Granted yes I can just buy the relic now but I know that since Seekers is just around the corner it would be wise to hold onto my current amount of gil since a lot of new items/content will be released and well I'd rather not get caught with my pants down so to speak. Generally tho it's a rule a thumb that people generally will buy shit for huge amounts of gil just be one of those few who have it 1st so waiting will probably be what I'll do in the 1st place.

[SnickySnacks]

Edit1:To the poster below me, are you suggesting there is a better thread to post this in? I looked around and didn't see one that seemed to fit better. The whole thing is a bit frivolous and stupid and certainly no reason to make a new thread. So....

At least I can enjoy it for 2 weeks until Seekers comes out.

Edit2: Actually, wow. That's pretty amazing. -_-
I'm actually rather impressed. I can't even defend that... XD
I will point out for the record, though, that I am not saying anything stupid in any of those screenshots.

[nervous]

babble

correct thread etc.


Edit: I'm saying that these are your people and that you shouldn't be allowed to say anything, ever.

[bechyni]

the real fail is that Scott Pilgrim game

[SnickySnacks]

Why? It's 4 player local coop. Who doesn't like playing games with friends?


To poster below:
See? the problem is he's playing by himself. It's funny with friends.