Is my new job allowed to do this?

[Cream Soda]

Lol when I used to work for YaYa's chicken, they used to violate Child Labor laws, which I let go of course, because I enjoyed being their doormat in that scenario. (Was given more hours than I was legally allowed to work). When I got canned from that place, then I just took all my pay stubs which showed my hours and called child labor laws on them, lol. My friend was still working there he said everyone got so pissed over it cause all the other minors got their hours cut.

[Celestialstrife]

I've never heard of a home health agency using a "Nurse's Assistant".

Are you expected to go on the HH visits with the RN, or is this more of an office/paperwork kind of assistant?

Nope I'm actually a certified nurses assistant, I will go to clients homes (usually elderly) and help them out with stuff if they need it, like getting up and dressed in the morning, some cooking, grooming and light cleaning. It's not my fave of jobs, I'd rather work in a nursing home, but this is the only type of work I can seem to get these days.

[Melena]

After seeing all the shit that goes on at the nursing home my aunt works for, I'm honestly amazed anyone would want to work in one. Have to have the patience of ghandi to tolerate the people living there, and the barely legal bullshit from the company that owns the nursing home.

[Laugana]

It sounds like something commonly done over here - you go to an interview and end up working a day for free and never get a call back after for the job.

[solanis]

cream soda worked at a chicken joint violating child labor laws? lol CS can I license the movie/book rights to your story

[Celestialstrife]

Most nursing homes I've worked in are pretty great, I worked for a medical staffing agency once that sent me to a state ran psych nursing home, now that was nasty >.>

[Meresgi]

Companies love to try to do shit like this, or lie about the position you're being hired for etc etc. I remember I was hired on as a graphic artist for a printing place, when I showed up for training I was told I had been drafted into customer service because "the graphic artist position wasn't empty just yet", so I took the 2 weeks of 42hr training with pay while I found a new job, left after the training and started the new job up.

[Celestialstrife]

Oh wow, that sucks! Actually I just got a call a little bit ago for an interview at another nursing facility, but oddly enough it is a group interview on Sunday. Kinda sucks but might as well go and see what they have to offer.

[miokomioko]

Ugh, group interviews.

[Yugl]

Then what exactly are they worth? That statement there just shows how extremely shallow a person you are honestly, that you would forsake any ideals just to make money.

This is quite ironic considering his position in the MU thread was that everything should be free.

[hey]

Then what exactly are they worth? That statement there just shows how extremely shallow a person you are honestly, that you would forsake any ideals just to make money.

Can't survive without money. And even if you can, it'd be a miserable life.

This is quite ironic considering his position in the MU thread was that everything should be free.

That's wasn't quite my argument, but like i said: principles are nice, but they are not worth dying for.

[vagus]

Sounds like you haven't even been hired yet. If you want this job, go to the orientation and see what happens. If they ask for a CC# or actually ask you to do something without getting paid, GTFO.

[Xantavia]

Can't survive without money. And even if you can, it'd be a miserable life.

That's wasn't quite my argument, but like i said: principles are nice, but they are not worth dying for.

And everytime somebody is willing to put up with some shady business like this, the line is moved just a little more. Trust me, I know how much it sucks to not have money, but you have to be willing to put personal comfort on the line. If a company realizes that there are enough people who will put up with policy X, then they will put in Y and Z. Years ago, I went to get an application at Wal-Mart. I was told I would have to watch some videos before I applied (rumor was they were training videos). In my mind, that tells me its not a place I want to work for, but obviously not enough people worry about it. Presently, when is the last time you heard something positive about the way Wal-Mart treats their employees? All I personally seem to hear about is them losing more rights and putting up with crazy practices all in the name of "a crappy job is better than none".

[hey]

Trust me, I know how much it sucks to not have money, but you have to be willing to put personal comfort on the line.

The situation being discussed goes beyond personal comfort. If i could get by without the job, then obviously i would not put up with such things.

Fighting for your rights does you no good if you're just going to freeze/starve to death, which puts an end to all of your rights.

[Xantavia]

The situation being discussed goes beyond personal comfort. If i could get by without the job, then obviously i would not put up with such things.

Fighting for your rights does you no good if you're just going to freeze/starve to death, which puts an end to all of your rights.

So where would you draw the line for what bullshit you put up with? Say your job was 9-5 every weekday, but the company required you to be there from 8:45 - 5:15, but you only got paid for 9-5. Thats 2 1/2 hours every week they getting from you for free, or over 100 hours of free labor a year. You are told that if you do not work from those hours, you will be fired. Are you OK with that since "Hey, I still have a job and aren't freezing/starving"? How about when the time creep starts, telling you to extend your shift 20 minutes each way instead of 15? Work through your break or get fired? I would prefer not to be sucked into a system like that before it begins. But as long as somebody is willing to turn a blind eye, they will keep doing it.

[hey]

So where would you draw the line for what bullshit you put up with? Say your job was 9-5 every weekday, but the company required you to be there from 8:45 - 5:15, but you only got paid for 9-5. Thats 2 1/2 hours every week they getting from you for free, or over 100 hours of free labor a year. You are told that if you do not work from those hours, you will be fired. Are you OK with that since "Hey, I still have a job and aren't freezing/starving"? How about when the time creep starts, telling you to extend your shift 20 minutes each way instead of 15? Work through your break or get fired? I would prefer not to be sucked into a system like that before it begins. But as long as somebody is willing to turn a blind eye, they will keep doing it.

Depends more on my other options than the job itself. If losing the job meant i'd be homeless? Yeah, i'd put up with it until i could find a less shitty job. If i had another job already, or if i had enough savings, or if i had friends/family i could live with until i found a new job, then no, i would not accept such a situation.

[Skyylya]

I don't...

Are you... responding to me? Or them?

I've re-read this statement several times, and I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say.

EDIT: It's a very awkwardly-written response, but I assume you're implying that it is somehow more important, and more challenging, to ignore your rights than it is to fight for them. Furthermore, it seems that you believe that having a set of standards and enforcing them somehow equals laziness, even though this requires effort and can be endangering to the individual.

It is rather confounding, but I doubt you thought much about the statement before you posted it.

You said that It's all right if you're a spineless piece of shit. I said it's all right if you're a hard working individual etc.. etc...

Really shouldn't have been that hard to comprehend. Life isn't fair across the board but I would rather sacrifice some working conditions to be gainfully employed and work hard to earn what I get than always look for some excuse to "fight for my rights" and look for a handout or as some have said "get paid" in a class action lawsuit.

One of the many reasons this country is going to the shitter is because most people are so concerned with being heard and crying that they are being oppressed rather than act like an adult and put some hard work into getting out of life what they want.

You can say whatever you want about me, i've worked 40-60 hours a week and paid taxes since I was about 10 years old and I work my ass off right now to live the lifestyle I want. I went to college, dealt with life, and worked all at the same time to get where I'm at today. I've worked in sales positions and the reason i'm always in the top 3% is because I work harder than you (perverbial), I don't look for reasons and excuses to be on the bottom and cry that it's not fair.

You don't work to enjoy life you work to have the opportunity to do the things that make life enjoyable. If you disagree with that statement then I can't help you and we'll have to agree to not see eye to eye. If you're lucky enough to have a job you love, props to you as it's hard to come by.

If you hate your job and where you're at in life, reflect on whatever piss poor decisions you made that got you there.

And yes, at 7am I wasn't using my grammar book so I apologize if that wasn't a Harvard quality sentence. Since I don't sit here and F5 I may or may not respond again, but for what it's worth I hope this clarifies my prior position and statement. And, not this wasn't particularly directed at you, but the mentality. I don't know you enough to speak specifically about you, so please don't take offense.

[Skyylya]

So where would you draw the line for what bullshit you put up with? Say your job was 9-5 every weekday, but the company required you to be there from 8:45 - 5:15, but you only got paid for 9-5. Thats 2 1/2 hours every week they getting from you for free, or over 100 hours of free labor a year. You are told that if you do not work from those hours, you will be fired. Are you OK with that since "Hey, I still have a job and aren't freezing/starving"? How about when the time creep starts, telling you to extend your shift 20 minutes each way instead of 15? Work through your break or get fired? I would prefer not to be sucked into a system like that before it begins. But as long as somebody is willing to turn a blind eye, they will keep doing it.

Have you ever heard of a salaried, exempt employment status? Welcome to the real world, have you ever had a real, non retail/restaurant job? And i'm not implying that those hourly jobs are not real, i've worked them and they are difficult jobs. But many jobs are not hourly. Education, many business and almost any management position.

[Yugl]

I like how people call the rewards of a legal suit a "hand out." It's as if they've completely glanced over the fact that you go to court when your rights have been violated. It's not even a guarantee and takes effort on the behalf of the plaintiff; especially, when against a company. In short, you're abusing language in order to support those who violate the law. Simultaneously, you attack the victim.

[Skyylya]

I like how people call the rewards of a legal suit a "hand out." It's as if they've completely glanced over the fact that you go to court when your rights have been violated. It's not even a guarantee and takes effort on the behalf of the plaintiff; especially, when against a company. In short, you're abusing language in order to support those who violate the law. Simultaneously, you attack the victim.

In the climate of this country where everyone and their brother cry sue at the first glance of being offended or harmed, yes it is 98% of the time people looking for a hand out. Is there another 2% of people that have legitimate claims and deserve some kind of compensation, sure.

In a class action suit there is probably a few people that have a legitimate claim and everyone else who wants to get tacked on and get a piece of the pie. All they do is devalue the claim of the few who deserve it. I'm not supporting companies who have bad practices but for crying out loud if you don't like the job either leave it or shut up. I complained about my job on these forums occasionally with a passion any time a thread rose about the for profit colleges, mostly just venting. At work I shut up, worked hard and earned my paycheck and when it finally got to the point I couldn't take it, I got a new job. Took all of 3 days and i'm making more money, i'm happier and life is better. Go me. I didn't run to every employee and try to fight the man for making my life miserable while I was there.