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  1. #841
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shassira View Post
    When they discover that they aren't exactly top DD, that they can't use any kind of sneak, that a good warrior is expected to be able to tank stuff and they regularly get rejected from parties, then...

    ... they'll re roll Slayer.
    This x1000
    My last hour of playing trying to find a Lancer for CR. See a warrior shouting for cr
    me: hi would you like to come tank for my party
    warrior: im DD warrior, i dont think that will be a good idea
    me: lol k good luck

    keep shouting
    another warrior sends me a /w : would you mind a warrior tank
    me: would fucking love a warrior tank

    Niggas need to learn their place, every time i had a warrior tank they were pleasant experiences. 1 thing about warriors don't expect the fight to stay in 1 place. ~.~ all over the place

  2. #842
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    Not saying it will be true of NA, but from all I have read about K-TERA groups usually take a warrior/lancer/slayer/sorc and healer. I guess most prefer a warrior for all the debuffs it brings, the stuns and the ability to tank if the lancer goes down for a second while the lancer gets rezed. I was reading a bunch of threads over on EU tera forums, talking about how warriors do 75% of a regular DDs dmg but no one has any idea how much more they will do with the combo system, not to mention there arnt really numbers to go off of anyways since there are no dmg meters in this game. Next CBT can't get here fast enough so I can devote it to leveling and trying out a warrior to help make my decision easier.

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    Different cultures I imagine though. Here I would never rely on said pug WAR to tank in a pinch. If I could, the pug LNC would be replaced. Depends if the debuffs really are worth it endgame, and then the moral dilemma of supporting DD only WARs.

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    The auto group in the LFD system in k-tera does that. Never puts warrior as tanks but with lancers. Then finds 2 dps 1 healer. Or slayer/sorc/zerker then healer (best set up imo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shassira View Post
    My predictions, according to my afterlife communication channel, are:

    Warriors will be the most played class on release; but this won't last.

    Warrriors look like rogues, sneaky and swift, and they'll even get a combo system that's basicly the same as Aion's assassin. People will think this is the stun-lock, fast attacking, no-skill needed class and will go for it.

    When they discover that they aren't exactly top DD, that they can't use any kind of sneak, that a good warrior is expected to be able to tank stuff and they regularly get rejected from parties, then...

    ... they'll re roll Slayer.
    And I won't feel sorry for them at all considering the game TELLS YOU WHEN YOU'RE MAKING A WARRIOR that they are none of the above haha.

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    While we're on the topic of Warrior, I have a question for everyone.

    Do you prefer the Lancer style tanking where the BAM stays in one spot, or do you prefer Warrior tanking where things are more chaotic?

    As a Lv34 War I can safely say we don't have the high damage numbers of a Slayer, Archer, or Berserker. I'd say we put up between 50% to 75% of those classes at my level. I really can't say if that gap is closed the higher level we get, but right now I feel insufficient. At high levels Warriors get more stun abilities, but that's from 50+. I guess the advantage would be the debuffs. Warriors have a 4.5% defense reduction debuff, a threat-generating ability that has a chance of stun, a 50% movement speed debuff that lasts 4 seconds, and a very nice ability (Traverse Cut) that can give a 11.05% defense reduction debuff if all 13 hits land, and then 2 more stun abilities at 54+.

    The question is, are these debuffs worth the annoyance of the BAM running around the battlefield in a chaotic manner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wenrick View Post

    The question is, are these debuffs worth the annoyance of the BAM running around the battlefield in a chaotic manner?
    Main a sorc. lol i don't care to much all my shit is ranged its rare that i have to chase bams down (teleport jaunt). outside the bams pushing lancers back with some move.

    Sub Berserker (SLOW AS SHIT MOVING BERSERKER, JESUS CHRIST RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO BE IN RANGE FOR BAMS IS FKIN RETARDED). prefer a lancer on my mele class less running. But i don't mind a warrior since nobody will be looting heavy armor vs my berserker. Fair trade off If you ask me

    If a warrior knows what hes doing and isn't a complete fuck up ill never turn him down to any group. But don't fill jilted if i don't invite your "dps warrior" to my group when i need some real firepower.

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    Really good wars can hold their own as a tank. In my experiences with them so far... if you get a fail war, you'll be kiting adds + dungeon bosses while trying to keep your party alive. Then watch half of them die because they couldn't be bothered to pick up my red skittles because their DPS > their HP bar.

    In short, good wars you'll appreciate and bad wars will make you pull your hair out. I'd still prefer a lancer overall though

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    I don't really get the mob running around the battlefield in a chaotic manner thing.

    Yes, the mob is going to move more while a warrior is tanking because of dodging, but Warrior does have a stationary dodge with a 7 second cooldown as well. Alternate between dodging left and right with evasive roll, if you can't dodge, pounce straight into the mob and take 50% less damage.

    I can't say much for my K-TERA experience considering I was playing with 400 ping most of the time, but so far as playing a Warrior Tank in the Beta and a Berserker with a Warrior Tank (sup Vandole) it's really not that bad. (Glyph Thunder Strike for no movement speed reduction.) Most people forget that mobs are going to jump all over the place anyway, Warrior tank or not.

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    Warrior's can't spam their dodges, like a Lancers can spam their shield block, so, in addition to the monster wandering around doing it's normal and random agro attacks, it's also spinning around as the warrior dodges and walks left/right to get out of the way of even normal attacks. This makes your team more prone, and more often in the line of fire, then the more stationary Lancer tank. It's also harder to get the damage/Crit from behind crystals to proc, with the extra moving. This is a lot more apparent as you get to the end game dungeons; more so for hard modes.

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    I see no issue with the boss running around with a warrior tanking it....as this isn't WoW. I think a lot of us are coming to this game to get away from the whole "stand here at the bosses back and spam your hot keys till he coughs up some loot" type gameplay. TERA is very movement and action oriented, and while Lancers are the more comfortable of the two, I like the need to flip around some shit to stay alive now and then...except when i'm drunk and playing, then I want a lancer.

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    I have a good amount of BAM control as a Lancer but even then sometimes they move off to smash someone else's face in or leap around the arena just because they want to. Makes it more dynamic and keeps people on their toes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    I see no issue with the boss running around with a warrior tanking it....as this isn't WoW. I think a lot of us are coming to this game to get away from the whole "stand here at the bosses back and spam your hot keys till he coughs up some loot" type gameplay. TERA is very movement and action oriented, and while Lancers are the more comfortable of the two, I like the need to flip around some shit to stay alive now and then...except when i'm drunk and playing, then I want a lancer.
    Still, a boss standing still is a hell lot smoother to DPS than one running around, so...

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    Obviously Warrior is the best job, because it has 5 stars. MLG status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    Obviously Warrior is the best job, because it has 5 stars. MLG status.
    I saw the stars and kinda laughed too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakisho View Post
    Still, a boss standing still is a hell lot smoother to DPS than one running around, so...
    Yes exactly requting a bit more skill than just standing around spaming your nuke or what ever. Another one of the many reasons I see this game doing quite well so long as it gets supported properly

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    Can you remodel across armor class? e.g. make a plate armor look like cloth, etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakron View Post
    Can you remodel across armor class? e.g. make a plate armor look like cloth, etc.?
    No, you can't.

    You can't even preview gear that isn't for your class (with ctrl+click). Wish they removed that lock out, at least I'd get to check how other gear looks without having to level a character for that class.

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    why does it force me to choose a monthly payment plan when i try to preorder on the EME site?
    i can change that before my free month is up right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyosak View Post
    why does it force me to choose a monthly payment plan when i try to preorder on the EME site?
    i can change that before my free month is up right?
    You get a discount on the more than one month plans for preordering. I'm pretty sure they said that the option to change your plan would be changeable before the game actually launches.

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