Obamacare, Healthcare, etc.

**SwampdonkeyPLD** · 2012-06-20 18:36

Originally Posted by Pirian

You need mandatory participation in any system where there exists asymmetric information because of the adverse selection that occurs otherwise

In that context, it sounds more like a tax which is perfectly constitutional.

**SwampdonkeyPLD** · 2012-06-26 07:05

So the court said all remaining opinions will be announced on Thursday, which would include Obamacare.

**Kurokikaze** · 2012-06-26 12:31

I'm hoping they don't strike down the law... Would be a total step back for the country. I know it's a conservative Supreme Court but seriously; people first man.

Regardless of whether or not this gets struck down, I hope voters go into November and remember that Obama, or Romney, will be replacing one of the justices on the bench.

**Acturus** · 2012-06-26 13:32

Originally Posted by Kurokikaze

I'm hoping they don't strike down the law... Would be a total step back for the country. I know it's a conservative Supreme Court but seriously; people first man.

Regardless of whether or not this gets struck down, I hope voters go into November and remember that Obama, or Romney, will be replacing one of the justices on the bench.

Corporations are people too, my friend.

**Tyche** · 2012-06-26 13:37

Originally Posted by Acturus

Corporations are people too, my friend.

Been waiting so long to find a use for this image.

**Kurokikaze** · 2012-06-26 13:42

Originally Posted by Acturus

Corporations are people too, my friend.

Oh yeah... And they're also the only ones that matter in this country.

lol @ image. Well played.

Edit: I think we found a new meme image... Made this really fast.
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**SwampdonkeyPLD** · 2012-06-26 17:39

Retaining free will is considered a "step back" now? God help us.

**myreality** · 2012-06-26 17:46

Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD

Retaining free will is considered a "step back" now? God help us.

**Ragnus** · 2012-06-26 17:56

Pretty much my response to that comment also.

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-06-26 18:08

Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD

Retaining free will is considered a "step back" now? God help us.

Wait, you don't have a choice with Obamacare anymore? I thought you could pay the fine or get insured.

**Milkster** · 2012-06-26 18:13

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

Wait, you don't have a choice with Obamacare anymore? I thought you could pay the fine or get insured.

It's my choice if I don't have health insurance and become debilitated and can no longer contribute to society. Fuck being healthy!

**Buffy** · 2012-06-26 19:46

Originally Posted by Kurokikaze

I'm hoping they don't strike down the law... Would be a total step back for the country. I know it's a conservative Supreme Court but seriously; people first man.

Regardless of whether or not this gets struck down, I hope voters go into November and remember that Obama, or Romney, will be replacing one of the justices on the bench.

I disagree, but have no desire to start a back and forth.

Obviously, not everyone agrees, as a portion of America doesn't want the law to pass.

Some people believe that the national health care law isn't a step forward, but a step towards socialism. I agree and feel it should be prevented.

edit: The flip side is that a large portion of the country DOES want some sort of public health care option.

The ideal solution would be to give both groups what they want. I'm not sure how to provide that.

double edit, after archibald's post below: We will know soon enough. Thursday is going to be a day of angst, either way.

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-06-26 19:48

Originally Posted by Buffy

Some people believe that the national health care law isn't a step forward, but a step towards socialism.

I hope you rail against medicare as "a step towards socialism" as well. Being like socialism doesn't preclude it from being "a step forward".

**Buffy** · 2012-06-26 19:51

Originally Posted by archibaldcrane

I hope you rail against medicare as "a step towards socialism" as well. Being like socialism doesn't preclude it from being "a step forward".

It was in my opinion. Along with medicaid and social security.

edit: spelled medicaid as medicade, because spelling is not exactly a strength.

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-06-26 21:25

Well, as long as you're consistent with your belief that good things about America are bad, then ok.

Alarial · 2012-06-26 21:27

Socialism!

**Tyche** · 2012-06-26 21:46

Just curious, how many of the other 27(?) OECD countries that have some form of government healthcare are also considered socialist?

Hell, this isn't even socialism. It's penalizing someone for not having health insurance. I don't get why the repubs aren't sucking at the teat for this (oh, yes I do, it's Obama sponsored). It eliminates underwriting, drives down costs of insurance, drives down the cost of healthcare, and, in turn, will drive down the cost of...wait for it...discretionary "entitlement" spending (medicare) which is a huge reason for the deficit we have.

**Ksandra** · 2012-06-26 21:53

Originally Posted by Buffy

Some people believe that the national health care law isn't a step forward, but a step towards socialism.

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**Sepukku** · 2012-06-26 21:54

It will also make business have less of a financial burden providing its employees with a group package because that package will be cheaper, resulting in businesses having a greater share of their money able to go towards the business. Also, having your workers healthy seems like a good idea, too.

**Cadsuane** · 2012-06-26 22:09

Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD

Retaining free will is considered a "step back" now? God help us.

LIBERTY IS NEVER OBSOLETEoh wait you're not Rothbard.

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