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  1. #2541
    Requiescat in pace.
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    hax just decrease the number of things that can fuck you over.

    lamp orders, and huge time waster floors are the worst things.

  2. #2542
    Relic Weapons
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    looks like i need to tell my ls to stockpile powder boots then

  3. #2543
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    buy powder boots
    How do you use these effectively? The warm up time is 30 seconds, so do you full time them?

  4. #2544
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
    Sepukku is my Hero
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSFFXI View Post
    How do you use these effectively? The warm up time is 30 seconds, so do you full time them?
    Thats the plan...you're already practically capped on magic haste via embrava, and the regain screws with your x-hit so you might as well optimize gear with the feet slot vacant.

  5. #2545
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    Yep, just use them and swap another pair in. Most jobs will be just fine capping haste without a feet slot.

  6. #2546
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    Not sure if this has been posted yet, but either way, Lamp Orders will be changed to server-side as of the next patch, the JP players kicked up an episode on Official Forums.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...294#post339294

    To paraphrase, "We're aware of it, and are planning to take action"

    Wonder if that means mass bans incoming. Sucks for those who used /p to discuss lamps during a run, giving them more evidence.

  7. #2547
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    lol JP, I doubt there will be mass bannings though as the game would suffer greatly from such a large loss of players at this point. Also, they haven't banned in the past for the ENM thing or VNMs and people abused those 24/7, but who knows.

  8. #2548
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    lol JP, I doubt there will be mass bannings though as the game would suffer greatly from such a large loss of players at this point. Also, they haven't banned in the past for the ENM thing or VNMs and people abused those 24/7, but who knows.

    Lol'd at this so hard, not because I think there will be bannings or anything, but because it's exactly what people said about Salvage.

  9. #2549
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    Did I mention how I hate JPs? The easier and better solution for this would be to fucking remove order lamps from an event like this.

  10. #2550
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    And they did suffer. That said, if people do get rocked for using pt chat for lamps on those runs, people will finally realize how much of a hindrance they are by not having the ability to even listen to vent/mumble.

  11. #2551
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    Worse than her at uno

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    Did I mention how I hate JPs? The easier and better solution for this would be to fucking remove order lamps from an event like this.
    Please this. Lamps in something like this is just a headache.

  12. #2552
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    Lol'd at this so hard, not because I think there will be bannings or anything, but because it's exactly what people said about Salvage.
    lol true, *shrug*

  13. #2553
    Banned.

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    i got my shit!

  14. #2554
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    Penalties for Japanese users quickly.
    Almost no penalties for overseas users, this is a famous story in the Vana.
    Quote from that thread, kind of funny.

  15. #2555
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    Please this. Lamps in something like this is just a headache.
    More like insta loss if you don't have dats lol

  16. #2556
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    Lol'd at this so hard, not because I think there will be bannings or anything, but because it's exactly what people said about Salvage.
    For what it's worth, the salvage exploit was pretty damn obvious that it was a bug and not supposed to happen, and people who used the exploit repeatedly were indisputably manipulating it to get results that were literally impossible for other players to get.

    With Nyzul, the content is theoretically possible without any sort of third party tools, so you can make the argument that they aren't getting any extra results through them.

  17. #2557
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    Salvage exploit could be done from the PS2 and, though /acmd leave seems like a weird way to dramatically increase the effort:reward ratio of an event, this is the company that gave us /fume.

    This exploit involves intentionally changing game data. Apart from the fact that they probably can't tell if you were using the .dat swaps unless you also weren't using Vent and like to use <t>, I also don't think they'd bother to punish for it. For salvage there were easy lines they could draw, permabanning everyone that had ever broken an alliance and temp banning anyone else that had been in a broken alliance in those areas. Someone probably wrote a script in a few hours and sorted out the lists. Going through the chat logs to convict people would be a much heavier assignment, and would take a group of interns a summer.

  18. #2558
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    Sweet jesus the JPs love to rate their posts up.

  19. #2559
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    would take a group of interns a summer.
    Why do you think the gobbie bags are taking this long.. free LM-17 w/ dem moogle suits.

    Also it's cute that you think they'd scrub chat logs instead of just storing a hash of your modified dats.

  20. #2560
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    Why were the Japanese so salty about dat swapping? Can they not do it or get caught or something?

    And that quote about us being ignored for punishments is pretty great. The grass is always greener and they're looking with envy at our run down tenements from their mansions.

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