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  1. #3121
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    It's going to be very difficult to escape the need for Scholar in that event, I think.

    Embrava:
    1) Is most of the required healing.
    2) Gives Regain, which is excellent in an event where you're running between mobs.
    3) Gives a lot of Haste.

    For more healing, Scholar can Tabula/Accession/Perp Regen V with Tabula up for another 81 HP/tick for something like 6.5 minutes. To cap Haste, SCH can Perp Haste (7.5 minutes). Capped Haste and all the healing you need in one job, and all buffs last much longer than a single floor. Even if they nerf any single component of Embrava, there are still the other reasons to use it and Scholar.

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    What could they possibly take away from it to make it not as usable in NNI? The only one I really got is if they made duration shorter, which somewhat ruins the point of it.

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    They really should just tack on an extra 15 minutes in NNI. That would pretty much solve any problem pending a Embrava nerf.

  4. #3124
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    Getting rid of code floors, or atleast not making you wait 30 seconds on confirmation.

  5. #3125
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    or atleast not making you wait 30 seconds on confirmation.
    This was the most rage-inducing thing in our NNI runs. The wait between lamps being activated and being able to go up.

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    That and fix the fucking bugged lamps.

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    has anyone been locking up after clearing floors? seems myself and a few ppl in my static are getting locked up, sometimes 4 ppl at a time, most the time 2 or 3. and it really kills our runs. not sure if from dats or other stuff, cant really bug report it.

  8. #3128
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReddwarfX View Post
    has anyone been locking up after clearing floors? seems myself and a few ppl in my static are getting locked up, sometimes 4 ppl at a time, most the time 2 or 3. and it really kills our runs. not sure if from dats or other stuff, cant really bug report it.
    Is it on Qiqirn floors? only trouble our group ever had was with those.

  9. #3129
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    My old group would lock up on qq floors sometimes. new group for my mule haven't seen anyone crash yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grevenilvec75 View Post
    Is it on Qiqirn floors? only trouble our group ever had was with those.
    is there a fix?

    edit: the most recent crash was on a QQ floor, but some of the others prior to that have not been.

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    Making embrava not required is fairly easy if they they make the KI rewards from floors 20/40/60/80 all contribute to floors 100 equally with F100 boss becoming x% droprate. You can imagine a 5% droprate on F100 boss and the last floor visited being registered so that embrave user can do maybe 4 boss per run while other will do 2 to 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReddwarfX View Post
    is there a fix?

    edit: the most recent crash was on a QQ floor, but some of the others prior to that have not been.

    What kind of floors were they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Getting rid of code floors, or atleast not making you wait 30 seconds on confirmation.
    On Code floors confirmation is instant, I think you were talking about Same time floors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detzu View Post
    On Code floors confirmation is instant, I think you were talking about Same time floors.
    Same time is instant as soon as you hit every lamp, too. Order floors have like a 20 second period after every lamp lights up before you can proceed.

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    Nah, Same Time floors are lagged as fuck when reporting clearance. Not as bad as order, but well enough.

  16. #3136
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    Yeah it lags so bad often the up lamp lights up before you get clearance report... which is several seconds after people start yelling for you to hit up lol

  17. #3137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschy View Post
    Seconding this. Since we started using Skype we've been hitting floor 100 with a lot more consistently. Our group doesn't use DAT mods or 3rd party tools either just the usual 2x SCH.

    @Alyee: I've been keeping stats on our Nyzuls through a Spreadsheet. Each sheet contains a run, and then I have a dashboard type sheet that compiles it all for calculating stats. (Put some pics in spoiler tags.) If you're interested I can send you the template sheets I use, you'll just need to plug in the Nyzul Data.
    My program reads a text file that is set up like:

    1 lamp
    8 all
    16 all
    20 specified
    22 free
    Ext... Starting over at 1 for each data set.

    I can Probly add something to read In ur data or hard code it in so sure send ur statics and I'll compile with mine.

  18. #3138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylee View Post
    My program reads a text file that is set up like:

    1 lamp
    8 all
    16 all
    20 specified
    22 free
    Ext... Starting over at 1 for each data set.

    I can Probly add something to read In ur data or hard code it in so sure send ur statics and I'll compile with mine.
    If you're familiar with perl at all, I have a small script that goes through a text/log file and parses out the relevant nyzul stats and puts them in csv format for easy spreadsheet importing.
    Spoiler: show
    Code:
    open LOGFILE, "<", "nyzul.log" or die $!;
    open OUTPUT, ">nyzul.csv" or die $!;
    
    $obj = 0;
    
    while (<LOGFILE>)
    {
    		##Floor X
    		if(m/Welcome to Floor (\d+)/)
    		{
    			##Test for no Objective (Free floor)
    			if($obj==1)
    				{print OUTPUT "Free\n";}
    			print OUTPUT getTime($_) . "," . $1 . ",";
    			$obj = 1;
    		}
    		
    		##Floor X Objective
    		if(m/Objective: (.*)/ && $obj)
    		{
    			print OUTPUT $1 . "\n";
    			$obj = 0;
    		}
    		
    		##Floor 0
    		if(m/You have 30 minutes/)
    		{
    			print OUTPUT getTime($_) . ",0,Temp Items.\n";
    		}
    		
    		##Exit - Win
    		if(m/You obtain .* tokens/)
    		{
    			print OUTPUT getTime($_) . ",Exit\n\n\n";
    		}
    
    		##Exit - Fail
    		if(m/mission has failed/)
    		{
    			print OUTPUT getTime($_) . ",Exit\n\n\n";
    		}
    }
    
    sub getTime
    {
    	if(m/\[(.*)]/)
    	{
    		return $1;
    	}
    }

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    Familiar and perl? Sounds like a bad Dyna BST!


    *bada bum tss*

  20. #3140
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Getting rid of code floors, or atleast not making you wait 30 seconds on confirmation.
    code is instant. order is not.

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