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  1. #3421
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    Figured.

  2. #3422
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    So I played a little with FFXIDB number ;

    dvalih jonah was killed 3238 times
    archaic rampart was killed 28233 times

    Assuming you average 18 jumps, that all of the 6 members are using GW, that killall floors are 25% rate (only reason to kill rampards), and that only one person sees a rampart being killed during those floors (which is likely since you split), that's a win rate of 3238/((28233/4.5))/6=8.6%. So that's likely the actual rate that cheaters are experiencing, and this is likely still acounting the ability to guess order 100% since the fix was only recent.


    I see what you did there, but assuming ramparts only get killed on kill all floors is very flawed. Especially with all the noob groups that do NN often.

    They get killed because of aggro, to build TP, cause bored waiting on others or because they are in AoE range.

    Also a ton of people don't use GW. I keep GW logged off for the most part and have 30+ NN wins. (maybe more)

  3. #3423
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diomer View Post
    However, given the situation ... it's a pretty easy decision


    Have you informed your ls of this decision?


  4. #3424
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    Quote Originally Posted by orinthia View Post


    Have you informed your ls of this decision?

    You're displaying the same reading literacy, or lack there-of, as Pchan at the moment. I was merely talking about HIS situation. I'd never RMT my characters (Tor + Okiru both being mine) and both will stay loaded with gil (think around 160M) and gear. In fact, both chars have KCs and all the bells and whistles. MY decision was not to pursue an afterglow because accumulating that much in assets to turn it into a perpetual glow to massage my e-dick would be stupid. At that point, you might as well liquidate those assets and get some hookers and blow to get your actual dick massaged.

  5. #3425
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    I see what you did there, but assuming ramparts only get killed on kill all floors is very flawed. Especially with all the noob groups that do NN often.

    They get killed because of aggro, to build TP, cause bored waiting on others or because they are in AoE range.

    Also a ton of people don't use GW. I keep GW logged off for the most part and have 30+ NN wins. (maybe more)
    Guild work stats are reprensentative about the drop rates of a certain community (harcore NAs).You think there are a lot of noobs doing NQ nyzul that also use guild work? The amount of people who farm nyzul NQ for points are mythic builders, that's neglectible.

  6. #3426
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    Neo Nyzul Isle (The 1% v RMTs)

    Go stand at the nyzl isle entrance and watch how many groups that have no fuckin chance of hittin even f60 in NNI enter the area, its not as minor as you think.

  7. #3427
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    Dio, your LS banner looks horrible. Get Navid to fix it. Also, RL card should have been pointed out a long time ago. This would not have stood these many pages back in my day.

  8. #3428
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaces View Post
    Dio, your LS banner looks horrible. Get Navid to fix it. Also, RL card should have been pointed out a long time ago. This would not have stood these many pages back in my day.
    It should be pretty obvious that I stopped doing anything to the site a longggg time ago, even before I stopped playing ;p Maybe one of these days I'll be bored enough to fix the left side and perhaps the banner too, but the prospects of that are pretty bleak.

  9. #3429
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Go stand at the nyzl isle entrance and watch how many groups that have no fuckin chance of hittin even f60 in NNI enter the area, its not as minor as you think.
    Be surprised how many times I've seen groups of BSTs lining up out there.

  10. #3430
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diomer View Post
    You're displaying the same reading literacy, or lack there-of, as Pchan at the moment. I was merely talking about HIS situation. I'd never RMT my characters (Tor + Okiru both being mine) and both will stay loaded with gil (think around 160M) and gear. In fact, both chars have KCs and all the bells and whistles. MY decision was not to pursue an afterglow because accumulating that much in assets to turn it into a perpetual glow to massage my e-dick would be stupid. At that point, you might as well liquidate those assets and get some hookers and blow to get your actual dick massaged.
    Again, the point is that any accusations you throw at someone regarding the opportunity cost of playing an MMO can easily and justifiably be thrown right back at you, especially considering you are (or were) a hardcore player. There's really no point in even bringing it up since it's a dead-end discussion.

    Please don't force me to defend fucking pchan any more.

  11. #3431
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdkuser View Post
    Guild work stats are reprensentative about the drop rates of a certain community (harcore NAs).You think there are a lot of noobs doing NQ nyzul that also use guild work? The amount of people who farm nyzul NQ for points are mythic builders, that's neglectible.
    Nyzul Isle investigation is the same zone as Nyzul Isle Uncharted, and Archaic Ramparts are called Archaic Ramparts in both runs. As reflected by the 671 cerb, 724 hydra and 814 khimaira kills that ffxidb had when I made this post, quite a few nq nyzul runs have been added. You typically kill a lot more archaic ramparts than bosses.

  12. #3432
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diomer View Post
    You're displaying the same reading literacy, or lack there-of, as Pchan at the moment. I was merely talking about HIS situation. I'd never RMT my characters (Tor + Okiru both being mine) and both will stay loaded with gil (think around 160M) and gear. In fact, both chars have KCs and all the bells and whistles. MY decision was not to pursue an afterglow because accumulating that much in assets to turn it into a perpetual glow to massage my e-dick would be stupid. At that point, you might as well liquidate those assets and get some hookers and blow to get your actual dick massaged.
    Are you being intentionally obtuse, or do you really not understand how stupid your argument is?

    x-gil (liquidated and/or assets) = x-RL currency

    The conversion rate is a constant(relatively speaking), and the only part of that equation subject to change is the opportunity cost imposed by one side. You're arbitrarily deciding that y-amount is greater than z-amount, and is therefor a stupid investment.

    I repeat, arbitrarily, as in you have absolutely no point.

  13. #3433
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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    To be fair I think the point he's trying to make is that any accusation of wasting time or resources on a video game can very easily be flipped around to become a discussion about the opportunity cost of playing video games period. In the end it's all the same - the hundreds of hours we've each put into FFXI could have been spent in a more 'productive' manner (but let's not get philosophical), so there's no sense in ragging on one person in particular for how they've chosen to use their time.

    He totally garbled what he was trying to say, but it's a valid argument.
    This ^, I had thoughts of making my own Mythic glow but nobody really sells scoria and I hate farming PW sets lol. I find it funny how anyone that quits or "takes a break" automatically defers to "GAME IS DEAD", considering there's a new expansion coming up which is sure to bring people back and spark some life into the game to some degree...

  14. #3434
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    To say that the game in it's current state, at this very moment, is not in a "dead" state is pretty laughable though.

  15. #3435
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    This ^, I had thoughts of making my own Mythic glow but nobody really sells scoria and I hate farming PW sets lol. I find it funny how anyone that quits or "takes a break" automatically defers to "GAME IS DEAD", considering there's a new expansion coming up which is sure to bring people back and spark some life into the game to some degree...
    WoTG was such a successful expansion, take that as an example of how SoA will probably be handled as well.

  16. #3436
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    We alreay know that the jobs will suck. For TaoU we had to wait for the first day.

  17. #3437
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    We alreay know that the jobs will suck. For TaoU we had to wait for the first day.
    Yeah, BLU and COR are such suck jobs....WotG jobs suck too, no one uses SCH or DNC these days

  18. #3438
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    Was shouting for a DD & got a /tell from a DNC stating that his DNC can out damage a mnk or average war in NNI. I Loled and was almost tempted to invite him to see what would happen. I've been told Blu is amazing in NNI, but i've yet to see it with my own eyes. Order lamp floors & shitty jumps can hurt a run, but NNI isn't impossible. My favorite event, and i wish I could do it more. Lol.

  19. #3439
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Yeah, BLU and COR are such suck jobs....WotG jobs suck too, no one uses SCH or DNC these days
    Can BLU Chi Blast? Does COR have chakra? I have never seen a SCH punch things well, and DNC can suck my dick if it doesnt wear pants that have FUCKING FLAMES GOING UP THE LEGS.

    Yes, those jobs all suck.

  20. #3440
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    Quote Originally Posted by bechyni View Post
    To say that the game in it's current state, at this very moment, is not in a "dead" state is pretty laughable though.
    Have to agree. Outside JP time Fenrir is a veritable ghost town, and it's a merged server as well.

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