Neo Nyzul Isle (Will FFXI continue? Find out on the next FFXI XP Pack!)

[Renzokuken]

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Odin.Sawtelle said: »
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, floor 94 (cleared 16 floors prior, had 2 minutes left) and we get an all floor with like 70million skeletons. So much for finding out if ??? wraps around.
Other 2 runs were uneventful (saw a fafnir at 83 if it hasn't been confirmed already(above 50ish) acted just like normal fafnir, everything else was old news).

Set up: war war drk cor sch sch, no mules this time. Although I haven't done this w/o sch, I have a hard time imagining it. Having 8~ tp a tick regain, 70%+ haste and 58hp/regen for 25/30 minutes makes it feel like abyssea w/ a time limit. Easy to go to aby and get ISL boxes in the 30minute down time.

[Stromgarde]

True, and I can't remember offhand how long they freeze you, but you're going to be needing to clearing a floor every 2-3 minutes anyway if you want to make it to 80+.

Edit: Can you even use Magian Specs in Nyzul? I asked a friend to try using them in Hazhalm but she said it got blocked (a la unable to use item in this area).

[Lyramion]

Well fuck me good... but this 2x SCH stuff looks promising.

[Ophannus]

Has to be a gimmick. The stuff from floor 100 is good but it's not THAT good. Most of the pieces are appropriately stronger than AF3(AF3 is 89) so this kind of stuff shouldn't be that unobtainable. Not only is the chance of getting to 100 slim(could overshoot it perhaps) but you also might be able to kill it in 1-3min which is probably how long you'd have.

[Toxeus]

First attempt at this nyzle isle thing
went drg/sam, drk/sam, blu/rdm, whm/sch, thf/war, brd mule

first run got to here

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http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...216_235502.png

second run got to here

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http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...6_213501-1.png

last run we killed floor 60 and 80 boss before we ran outta time, had some pretty crappy floors on this run

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http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...216_220950.png

[Byrthnoth]

Did the 80-floor boss drop a Linen? What was he like?

[Toxeus]

he was cake, we all popped fana, had him down in 1 minute, unfortunately this:

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http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...216_221150.png

[Zirael]

Haven't checked after this update, but doesn't checking the rune of release freeze you too?

[Darkmagi]

Clipper usage for the people getting up to 99 or just good luck/people?

[Atoreis]

Clipper usage for the people getting up to 99 or just good luck/people?

this.

I am far from telling ppl not to use clipper but i wont use it for sure so would be cool to know which info of succes strategy is including clipper.

[Toxeus]

used it less than you think, imo, fillmode is invaluable though and everyone has access to that

[Darkmagi]

Was not accusing, and I have no problem with people using clipper(Would be using it myself, but 1 strike away from ban etc.). I was just curious to see if your group required it in order to get that far. Also yeah good luck to anyone doing this without fillmode or radar, sounds impossible.

[Toxeus]

im not taking offense, just saying the majority of what helped with seeing where we needed to go/kill with fillmode

finding leaders, specified enemies, where more enemies on all floors were, finding lamps, all was done with fillmode

[Slycer]

The stuff from floor 100 is good but it's not THAT good. Most of the pieces are appropriately stronger than AF3(AF3 is 89) so this kind of stuff shouldn't be that unobtainable.

Totally agree. The problem, though, is that the only other level 99 gear they've added so far have been the Voidwatch sets (Athos/Ogier's/Rubeus) which are also generally strong, but have decidedly different uses than basically all of the pieces in the Nyzul sets. So we really have nothing to go on and many of the Nyzul pieces are best-in-slot for what they do... for now. Taking a cursory glance through Legion gear, there's some gear in there which has some overlap and is nearly as good as the Nyzul stuff, but there are still some Nyzul pieces which are unique in the upgrades they give. I'm sure there's more coming, but since Nyzul is basically the level 99 gear to have for the moment, I'm not sure why they made it essentially impossible to get. I like the event, but the difficulty dial is turned up too high right now. I don't think there's a gimmick, I think they just introduced it at a purposefully high difficulty because the test server is essentially worthless and nobody actually "tests" anything, so they're using the real servers as a test. When they see that nobody or only a very, very small handful of people have the armor from F100 in a week or two, I'm guessing they'll take a look at tweaks. It really wouldn't take much of a tweak to make F100 a much stronger possibility on any given run.

[Slycer]

he was cake, we all popped fana, had him down in 1 minute, unfortunately this:

Coulda been worse and dropped nothing. I'm guessing you lost the items based on time stamps/lack of lots (or did you QM and just have filters on)?

[Yugl]

I think the hat floored, didn't it?

[Slycer]

I think the hat floored, didn't it?

Yeah realized that after looking back at the time stamp. Ninja'ed my post too.

[pancakesandsex]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post282143

As a follow up to my previous post, I received some information from the development team in regards to the overall concept of Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region as well as planned adjustments.

Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region Concept
Just as was mentioned previously, Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region is battle content that is geared towards a 6 person party of level 99 players.

In contrast to Nyzul Isle Investigation where the strategy revolved around 5 floor increments, Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region’s degree of challenge has been set quite difficult. This is also the reason why every time you enter you start from the first floor. We’d like players to set their floor goals based on their strengths, meaning a combination of level, gear, knowledge, and experience.

In order to progress further, in addition to fire power and battle strategy, luck plays a role as well as taking risks to get to the next floor and aim for good rewards.

As a general guideline, the system has been balanced in such a way so that once you have gotten used to it, you should be able to reach floor 60. If you try really hard, you can get to floor 80, and then if luck is on your side you will able to reach floor 100.

Depending on the situation there of course might be cases where you will not be able to reach your target floor and there is no guarantee that you will reach floor 80/100 each time. This is why the rewards become more attractive as you reach higher floors.

Based on the above, we do not have any plans at the moment to ease the difficulty. In the event that we did reduce the difficulty, we would also have to lower the stats on the reward items.
　
For Nyzul Isle Investigation, depending on which piece of equipment (slot) you are after, you would select the according floor progression. However, for Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region you are trying to get to the highest floor possible to get the equipment with the higher stats.

The further you get floor wise, more attractive items will be dropped by monsters (※) you encounter and you will receive a large amount of tokens. Also, as opportunities to defeat NMs increases, the opportunities to obtain alexandrite will also increase.
※This goes for non-boss NMs as well. (Example: Behemoth spawning on a non-boss floor)
　
　
Making it easier to continuously challenge Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region

1. Cost of Temporary Items
For Nyzul Isle Investigation, the idea was to not worry so much about temporary items when going through non-boss floors, and to have a good amount of them for when you do fight bosses.
On the other hand, for Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region, it’s hard to discern when you are just going to go through regular floors and when you are going to fight bosses, so each time you have to grab a large amount of temporary items, just in case.

As a result, in the case you don’t get through very many floors the possibility of you wasting tokens is high, and we have been noticing this happening more than we expected.

With that said, we will be looking into reducing the amount of tokens needed to purchase temporary items.
　
2. Reward Obtainment Methods
In regards to reward items being obtaining by defeating bosses, we are looking into adding some new elements. The below 2 reasons are why there are difficulties obtaining rewards as drop items.
•Element of challenge has become harder and there is no guarantee that you will able to fight a boss each time.
•There are many types of reward items and the rate of obtaining the type or piece you want is low.
After considering these two points, if you are able to reach boss floors consistently, we’re thinking about making it so you’ll be able to obtain one desired item from amongst the items that can drop off a boss, which would be separate from the items that also dropped from that battle.

※This is a reward that depends on you clearing that specific floor, so other floors will not count and you will not be able to freely select rewards from other floors.
※Since no methods have been implemented to tally clears, when this system is implemented, previous clears will not be counted.

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No gimmick :/

I'll do the event if they Implement that clear system though.

[Atoreis]

I really like it.

Tough and fast event and the incoming changes are perfect to not ruin it but to lower the cost you pay for not being lucky.
Brilliant job SE.

[Byrthnoth]

After considering these two points, if you are able to reach boss floors consistently, we’re thinking about making it so you’ll be able to obtain one desired item from amongst the items that can drop off a boss, which would be separate from the items that also dropped from that battle.

※This is a reward that depends on you clearing that specific floor, so other floors will not count and you will not be able to freely select rewards from other floors.
※Since no methods have been implemented to tally clears, when this system is implemented, previous clears will not be counted.

This sounds really useful. I eagerly await them telling us how it will actually work.