Neo Nyzul Isle (Will FFXI continue? Find out on the next FFXI XP Pack!)

[EjinCaitsith]

i think everyone is making a big deal about the difficulty of this.. i mean our first three attempts we got to 99 > 95 > 80 boss killed.... i mean seriously...

Just wait until the first time you successfully jump 15 times in 1 run and only end up on F56.

[Yugl]

Wait until you find out that you can overshoot floor 100!

[Churchill]

Just wait until the first time you successfully jump 15 times in 1 run and only end up on F56.

That is the biggest problem, but the way I look at it (with the announced changes, speculation --> that way) you still have a better shot at getting gear that you want faster than Salvage, and it comes with the appropriate challenge that Salvage held. Once the changes are implemented, whether it's 1:1 or 1:5etc, you are basically trading NM's that never drop 35's for the RNG ??? jumps.

[Toxeus]

Just wait until the first time you successfully jump 15 times in 1 run and only end up on F56.

yeah we had some luck, but bad luck too, if on that first run (floor 99 one) if we had a better floor other than kill all with ash dragon and stuff we would of easily made it to 100 with time to spare, that first run we started out 1 > 5 > 7 floor wise, i dont remember the order after that though. The point IS though, that while it is luck based its still not as hard as ppl are saying.

[Yugl]

I think people were complaining about the luck, not the difficulty.

[Toxeus]

ya but.. why luck has been a LARGE part of this game since i started several years ago. nobody every complained when things had low drop rates and it took perseverance and many many tries to get things.. even when salvage drops were terribly low drop rates we still did it, this is offering higher drop rates but low chance to get there.. its opposite effect but same concept.

[Yugl]

Oh, people complained about Salvage drop rates. The difference between now and then is that shit drop rates were the norm. We've become accustomed to Abyssea's high drop rates and many hoped that Neo-Nyzul's drop mechanics would oppose VW's drop mechanics. Instead, we have the latter taken to an extreme.

[Masamune]

Oh, people complained about Salvage drop rates. The difference between now and then is that shit drop rates were the norm. We've become accustomed to Abyssea's high drop rates and many hoped that Neo-Nyzul's drop mechanics would oppose VW's drop mechanics. Instead, we have the latter taken to an extreme.

^This. I'd not be surprised if 70%-80% of FF11 community (who actually tried more than 5 times without cheating) think same as well.

Simple proof: where is the usual congestion we always get at every new event release ? Assault Nyzul Counter Bureau is a no man's land...

Toxeus and Atoreis, did you check the statistics Byrtnoth posted fw pages back for chances to reach F90+ ?

[Toxeus]

then we totally beat the odds on first 2 tries? lol

[Karbuncle]

then we totally beat the odds on first 2 tries? lol

More or less yah, You kicked the Odds Ass pretty hard. Considering you're the first guy in 23 pages who's reported getting above 80. I'm more disappointed you Wiped floor 80 With a Thief and Didn't get a drop(did you?), That makes me a little more upset drop rates are so terrible on top of the dumb luck Jumping.

Just good to know you're doing well, but honestly Tox, you shit four leaf clovers. not surprised you're this lucky in nyzul

[Toxeus]

gotta read back, we got coinpurse and mage head +3, no time to lot so it floor'd as we exited, and im pretty much unluckiest guy i know... most things ive gotten through straight perseverance

edit: doing 3 more runs on sunday so ill let you know if my "luck" holds up and ill keep more exact records this time of all the goings on. etc

[Karbuncle]

gotta read back, we got coinpurse and mage head +3, no time to lot so it floor'd as we exited, and im pretty much unluckiest guy i know... most things ive gotten through straight perseverance

edit: doing 3 more runs on sunday so ill let you know if my "luck" holds up and ill keep more exact records this time of all the goings on. etc

Good, Let me know how it goes ;o

[dasva]

If it requires filler and clipper to do that I'd call it hard

[NynJa]

then we totally beat the odds on first 2 tries? lol

Are you using movement tools and fillmode? If so, you're not beating the odds...

[Toxeus]

cough cough.. everyone uses fillmode lol why is this even being discussed,

its like saying.. its cheating if you use windower all over again..

[NynJa]

Are you using movement tools and fillmode? If so, you're not beating the odds...

I mean, we all know the answer (except for Atroeis for whatever reason)...cause when everyone goes 1/5 to hit floor 80, and you go 3/3 to 90+ with a subpar group, well...HELLLLLLLLLO

inb4: pchan suckless

[InsaniacTHF]

cough cough.. everyone uses fillmode lol why is this even being discussed,

its like saying.. its cheating if you use windower all over again..

It's absolutely cheating. I use it myself and I don't blame anyone who does but you can't defend the difficulty of an event based on how well you do when you don't play by the rules. Consider the large percentage of people who foolishly still play on a console or don't use tools. How far do you think they will actually get under the best circumstances?

[Darkmagi]

Anyone fool enough to play this game without windower deserves the shit that they get. This game is quite literally unplayable without windower.

[Byrthnoth]

It's actually not literally unplayable. I accidentally logged in without windower the other day.

[Darkmagi]

Are you a wizard?