Neo Nyzul Isle (Will FFXI continue? Find out on the next FFXI XP Pack!)

[Lordender]

Lol why does all of these arguments sound familar of "skill, fillmodes, fleehacks"? "We're a very skillful and knowledgable group!" yeah, and it took "skill" to consistently pull King HNM back in the day too *rolls eyes*.

Abused wife syndrome at its finest in this thread.

[Zag]

Idk if Tanaka is to blame but ff14 was shitty when he was in 1.0 version with them and everyone hated the game and still does. Then he comes back after abyssea and everything is starting to go to shit like ff14 did, when tanaka came back to ff11.

SAM is starting to get strong again (obviously has to be his favorite job class, he is JP) and WAR and MNK are getting nerfs again.

The interim team must have really wanted their position in the company to stay cause they did a hell of a job. They buffed jobs that needed buffing badly (nin,mnk,war on HNMs,sch,blm(top nuker without any debate now),whm(finally top healer). BLU is a beast and mythic DRG is a monster. Then they didn't touch jobs like SAM or RDM since they were Overpowered already.

Abyssea was the best thing to ever happen to ff11 even though they overkilled it with the brews crour price. Other then the 200,000 brews, the event was the go to for everything.

Upgrading your armor to +1 was fun and took some decent time and the stats were great! Then you upgraded slowly to +2 and the stats were miles ahead of the situational gear we got all these years. Then you did some trials for the empyrean and empyrean grinding was time consuming. It took me 1-2 months. But I had fun doing it and I duoed the damn chloris,sandworm for vere with my friend (including pops, proc rate and TH). I enjoyed dropping Rani down to 5% without any brews with the JP before he went apeshit. I was MNK and I enjoyed being tank on EVERYTHING for the first time in my life. Was super exciting and I felt like people depended on my job class to stay alive. Showing off with 6000HP in scars of abyssea was also fun.
-For the first time in my ff life, I enjoyed doing EXP parties! Nomore boring greater colibre or skeleton grinds in KRT. The exp was fun with 18 ppl and it never got old. It was fun, it was/is QUICK, and I enjoyed making gil and getting NM pop items while exping/meriting. The fact that victory smite was so powerful made popping each exp mob that much more fun too. Not once did I feel like I was grinding in abyssea.

I did not get stressed out doing af3+1 af3+2 or my empyrean weapon. Didn't get stressed out on shinryu or the caturae. Didn't have to worry about bots or 5% drop rates or never spawning NMs (like eastern shadow in fei yin, or KB). I didn't have to rely on LUCK at all in any of abysseas events.
Most importantly, I flag up and get an INVITE ASAP in abyssea regardless of what job I was on. I could even be on a level 36 dancer and get an invite as long as I key-whored. You didn't need to rely on JPs or a certain timezone to exp and you didnt NEED a BARD like you did with greater colibre.

I wrote ALOT but IDGAF because abyssea was the shit and brought friends and enemies together with each other. There was nomore HNMLS badblood. Everyone helped each other. I teamed up with Tigue for crying out loud and I hated him.

Nyzul was one of the best events and they blew it bad with neo-nyzul. Nyzul had the perfect progression goal process that is great for MMO games. They should have just did disc floors 101-200 and applied the same standard Nyzul isle rules.

People don't do alliances that much anymore and Idk if Legion will fail or flop if it requires 25+ people to clear. We all played this game for almost 10 years and alot of us have gotten busy over the years as we are mostly all adults now, and some are probably married and have kids now. Alot has changed and alot of our times are busy now. That could also have to do with the game dying besides just being an old game.

[bechyni]

Abyssea was the best thing to ever happen to ff11 even though they overkilled it with the brews crour price. Other then the 200,000 brews, the event was the go to for everything.

I stopped reading right here.

[Zag]

I could give a shit if you stopped reading there. Its an opinion and its backed up pretty nicely too. Its the best and the worse to happen to ff11. The gaming world is fast paced now. Its not slow paced like it was back in the ps1 ps2 days. Silent hill and RE for example with dino crisis all had that same slow gameplay. There is multiple MMOs out now and 99% of EVERY game that comes out has an online feature now. ff11, socom 2 and Everquest were like the only 3 games online back then for console. If you had ff11 you wouldnt have everquest and Socom 2 was a shooting game not an RPG so it doesnt count either. That means you have to adapt to the fast paced times. There is competetion now too. No reason for a relic to take 5 years to get still, they are going with the times now and thats good.

The gear in abyssea was a huge upgrade and the new weapons with new powerful WS brought the dying game back to life. When abysea came out , ff11 had the HIGHEST number of SUSCRIPTIONs ever. I think they said it was even higher then CoP numbers, I dont remember.

The 3 mini-addons before that, ff11 was at its LOWEST subscriptions ever. How does it go from lowest to highest all in 1 year.... abyssea obviously had something to do with that. I thought the game was DEAD after those 3 crap add-ons came out (moogle,shantoto, crystal prophecy).

If they kept the level 75 cap and abyssea never existed... I think mostly all these BG people would have all been gone by now.

[Viar]

Idk if Tanaka is to blame but ff14 was shitty when he was in 1.0 version with them and everyone hated the game and still does. Then he comes back after abyssea and everything is starting to go to shit like ff14 did, when tanaka came back to ff11.

SAM is starting to get strong again (obviously has to be his favorite job class, he is JP) and WAR and MNK are getting nerfs again.

The interim team must have really wanted their position in the company to stay cause they did a hell of a job. They buffed jobs that needed buffing badly (nin,mnk,war on HNMs,sch,blm(top nuker without any debate now),whm(finally top healer). BLU is a beast and mythic DRG is a monster. Then they didn't touch jobs like SAM or RDM since they were Overpowered already.

Abyssea was the best thing to ever happen to ff11 even though they overkilled it with the brews crour price. Other then the 200,000 brews, the event was the go to for everything.

Upgrading your armor to +1 was fun and took some decent time and the stats were great! Then you upgraded slowly to +2 and the stats were miles ahead of the situational gear we got all these years. Then you did some trials for the empyrean and empyrean grinding was time consuming. It took me 1-2 months. But I had fun doing it and I duoed the damn chloris,sandworm for vere with my friend (including pops, proc rate and TH). I enjoyed dropping Rani down to 5% without any brews with the JP before he went apeshit. I was MNK and I enjoyed being tank on EVERYTHING for the first time in my life. Was super exciting and I felt like people depended on my job class to stay alive. Showing off with 6000HP in scars of abyssea was also fun.
-For the first time in my ff life, I enjoyed doing EXP parties! Nomore boring greater colibre or skeleton grinds in KRT. The exp was fun with 18 ppl and it never got old. It was fun, it was/is QUICK, and I enjoyed making gil and getting NM pop items while exping/meriting. The fact that victory smite was so powerful made popping each exp mob that much more fun too. Not once did I feel like I was grinding in abyssea.

I did not get stressed out doing af3+1 af3+2 or my empyrean weapon. Didn't get stressed out on shinryu or the caturae. Didn't have to worry about bots or 5% drop rates or never spawning NMs (like eastern shadow in fei yin, or KB). I didn't have to rely on LUCK at all in any of abysseas events.
Most importantly, I flag up and get an INVITE ASAP in abyssea regardless of what job I was on. I could even be on a level 36 dancer and get an invite as long as I key-whored. You didn't need to rely on JPs or a certain timezone to exp and you didnt NEED a BARD like you did with greater colibre.

I wrote ALOT but IDGAF because abyssea was the shit and brought friends and enemies together with each other. There was nomore HNMLS badblood. Everyone helped each other. I teamed up with Tigue for crying out loud and I hated him.

Nyzul was one of the best events and they blew it bad with neo-nyzul. Nyzul had the perfect progression goal process that is great for MMO games. They should have just did disc floors 101-200 and applied the same standard Nyzul isle rules.

People don't do alliances that much anymore and Idk if Legion will fail or flop if it requires 25+ people to clear. We all played this game for almost 10 years and alot of us have gotten busy over the years as we are mostly all adults now, and some are probably married and have kids now. Alot has changed and alot of our times are busy now. That could also have to do with the game dying besides just being an old game.

Lol.

That's just your opinion, from what I've read you only enjoy Abyssea because you enjoy MNK and that's it.

Same reason why Abyssea is shit for me because it's WAR MNK NIN WHM BLM only, and I don't play those jobs.

[Viar]

I could give a shit if you stopped reading there. Its an opinion and its backed up pretty nicely too. Its the best and the worse to happen to ff11. The gaming world is fast paced now. Its not slow paced like it was back in the ps1 ps2 days. Silent hill and RE for example with dino crisis all had that same slow gameplay. There is multiple MMOs out now and 99% of EVERY game that comes out has an online feature now. ff11, socom 2 and Everquest were like the only 3 games online back then for console. If you had ff11 you wouldnt have everquest and Socom 2 was a shooting game not an RPG so it doesnt count either.

The gear in abyssea was a huge upgrade and the new weapons with new powerful WS brought the dying game back to life. When abysea came out , ff11 had the HIGHEST number of SUSCRIPTIONs ever. I think they said it was even higher then CoP numbers, I dont remember.

The 3 mini-addons before that, ff11 was at its LOWEST subscriptions ever. How does it go from lowest to highest all in 1 year.... abyssea obviously had something to do with that. I thought the game was DEAD after those 3 crap add-ons came out (moogle,shantoto, crystal prophecy).

If they kept the level 75 cap and abyssea never existed... I think mostly all these BG people would have all been gone by now.

Where do you see the info about Abyssea have highest subscriptions ever? I have a lot of friends(I mean, A LOT) quit after Abyssea came out, because it trashed their years of work. Then I know plenty of ppl quit during Abyssea era also, when they got everything in Abyssea with capped geared they got bored with this game and quit.

[Zag]

Lol.

That's just your opinion, from what I've read you only enjoy Abyssea because you enjoy MNK and that's it.

Same reason why Abyssea is shit for me because it's WAR MNK NIN WHM BLM only, and I don't play those jobs.

That does actually make sense though. If I was a main job PLD, I probably would have hated abyssea. I felt like a powerhouse in abyssea, even when I was alone. The fear of walking alone in a world was gone in abyssea. Do you have an empyrean though? Im sure you were super happy when you finished your weapon (level 85 WS) and love your empyrean.

Where do you see the info about Abyssea have highest subscriptions ever? I have a lot of friends(I mean, A LOT) quit after Abyssea came out, because it trashed their years of work. Then I know plenty of ppl quit during Abyssea era also, when they got everything in Abyssea with capped geared they got bored with this game and quit.

The vanadiel Census or whatever it was called. The suscriptions rose to an all time high when abyssea came out. Alot of people RETURNED who had quit also. I bet alot of your friends who already quit, returned when abyssea came out right? Once the 3 add-ons came out though and people got their stuff... They went back to quitting again, around when VW was introduced. You said they got their stuff and quit... but they quit after the 3 add-ons came out or after their level 85 empyrean in the 2nd add-on. That means they returned for like 9 months. (Think it took 9 months to release all 3).

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Another note: They did NOT stretch anything in the add-ons. Everything came out as is in each expansion. (Cept for the visions NMs in the beginning, which spawned every week little by little) They stretched WOTG for over 3-4 years, I lost count, and WOTG turned alot of people off.

Back on topic though: This event (neo nyzul) might be possible without cheats in the future when they release new merits and the new 2 hour JAs but by then, other gear will be out that is better. Nyzul is 6 manned though and legion is alliance made... I have no problem with Neo nyzul if they fix the damn event. Cheating to win is unexceptable. And never being able to win is also unexceptable.

[doctorugh]

I thought abyssea was well done other than the brews (at least 200k brews were crazy).

[NynJa]

Where do you see the info about Abyssea have highest subscriptions ever? I have a lot of friends(I mean, A LOT) quit after Abyssea came out, because it trashed their years of work. Then I know plenty of ppl quit during Abyssea era also, when they got everything in Abyssea with capped geared they got bored with this game and quit.

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY RARE E BODY IS OUTDATED WAHHHHHHHHHHH

I hate to sounds like pchan, but they be some butthurt girls.

[bechyni]

Where do you see the info about Abyssea have highest subscriptions ever? I have a lot of friends(I mean, A LOT) quit after Abyssea came out, because it trashed their years of work. Then I know plenty of ppl quit during Abyssea era also, when they got everything in Abyssea with capped geared they got bored with this game and quit.

He doesn't see it anywhere, it isn't listed.

[Mojo]

Talking about whether Abyssea was successful or not should be a ban-able offense. Not a single person in the history of those discussions was ever swayed to the other side. It's pointless discord.

[Stromgarde]

Blah blah blah cheating and all of that, but can't you still just edit the names of the lamps in the dats to Lamp 1, 2, 3, etc.?

DAT file for Nyzul Isle is /ROM3/1/76.DAT. There are exactly five runic lamps in the DAT files. Whether or not the static list goes in order of NPC ID for lamps by order is unknown, but I would have imagined this would have been well known at the time of Nyzul Isle V1 had such an approach been successful. Still, if you would like to try the NPC IDs start at 0104D223.

As a separate issue, there is a full list of the NMs which should appear in V2 if that has not been posted yet.

[Shenrien]

ApRadar 3Pro still tells me what lamp is #1, 2, 3, ect. so I would assume the IDs are the same, there wasn't an update recently to fix anything or add anything cause nothing got broke in the ID database that it calls for.

[Stromgarde]

And that corresponds to the actual order you're supposed to use them in?

[nekura]

And that corresponds to the actual order you're supposed to use them in?

Yes. The list of lamps in the DAT file is in order, so you can rename them and skip the bullshit.

[Stromgarde]

Interesting. That also greatly cuts the odds you'd try to activate an all lamps floor having found four lamps only to turn out that there were five all along.

[Esvedium]

DAT file for Nyzul Isle is /ROM3/1/76.DAT. There are exactly five runic lamps in the DAT files. Whether or not the static list goes in order of NPC ID for lamps by order is unknown, but I would have imagined this would have been well known at the time of Nyzul Isle V1 had such an approach been successful. Still, if you would like to try the NPC IDs start at 0104D223.

As a separate issue, there is a full list of the NMs which should appear in V2 if that has not been posted yet.

Anyone have an edited 76.DAT that has the lamps renamed they'd like to share?

[Stromgarde]

It's simple enough to do using polutils, a current enough version of which can be found at its google code site.

http://code.google.com/p/polutils/downloads/list

[Julian]

Lol why does all of these arguments sound familar of "skill, fillmodes, fleehacks"? "We're a very skillful and knowledgable group!" yeah, and it took "skill" to consistently pull King HNM back in the day too *rolls eyes*.

Abused wife syndrome at its finest in this thread.

It took a lot of skill to make sure no one would attack a fucking darter.

[Karbuncle]

Gotta love how a tough event brings people together...

*reads*

Oh wait, Its nothing but Yelling back and forth >_>