Neo Nyzul Isle (Will FFXI continue? Find out on the next FFXI XP Pack!)

[boo]

dorp?

[Yugl]

They timed out. Nice try though.

[Toxeus]

yeah timed out at 30%, the issue is.. we used all our temps on floor 80 boss, if we could of skipped it would of easily won

[NynJa]

Calling Astral Flow at 25%

[Scrooge]

Oh man, rolling floor 80 on a 100 run. Would you have had time and fanatics to kill him if you didn't land on vamp?

[EDIT] whoops, didn't see there was another page with replies, disregard.

[Slycer]

Oh man, rolling floor 80 on a 100 run. Would you have had time and fanatics to kill him if you didn't land on vamp?

[EDIT] whoops, didn't see there was another page with replies, disregard.

Ya, rolling the boss floor doesn't waste time, it wastes temps. If they got a crappy spec enemies or all enemies (or even a crappy layout of lamps) floor, say 81 instead of 80, it probably would have taken even longer and they may not have even seen F100. The issue is the burned temps more than anything else.

[Jem]

Out of curiosity, what temps do you guys take?

I generally take Spy's, Braver's, Soldiers, Clerics, Dusty Wing, Body Boost, Fanatics. Not even sure what Soldier's does (attack boost?) though. 1300 tokens per run and think you normally get 1200+ for a decent clear.

EDIT: Also seconding that Boss floors aren't terrible. We didn't hit a 60 yesterday but wouldn't use temps for 20/40. Might do for 60 and would for an 80.

Spec Enemy, Leader, Boss Floors are the nicest floors really. A nice lamp floor is good too but they are hit and miss. A bad kill all, spec enemies or lamps can really suck up a lot of time.

Ideally you want to be clearing 15+ floors per run. 110 seconds per floor gives you 15 clears and 2 min 30 left. So really you probably want 105 seconds or less.

[Byrthnoth]

Soldier's seems to double the damage of the next attack. I don't know if it works with weaponskills.

[Atoreis]

So ppl with fillmode and .dats are close to reaching floor 100 (overshooting) on their 5 or something run ever and they doing this while Ukon WAR died at floor 14 and their not doing it with optimal way (which is doing runs with 2hr for each and probably 2x SCH for 2x embrava).

Other group who claimed to use clipper sometimes for lamps reached 100 when also doing floor 80 boss. Clipper was used probably again but its also 5 ppl + mule so that is also disadvantage.

Yet Jornna still spamming how superlucky and superhard is that event using less and less arguments ("I get the feeling that just reaching floor 100 will be good enough for most people, regardless if they can kill it or not, lol." was really lol... ). At this rate I believe when someone who wont use anything beside windower will kill the 100 floor boss Jornna would post something like "You used windower ? thats cheat do it on ps2 or it doesnt count".

Its getting more and more funny

[Khamsin]

Are the order of the lamps in the dats the same order as you'd have to hit them on an ordered lamp floor?

[Jem]

Soldier's seems to double the damage of the next attack. I don't know if it works with weaponskills.

Ah cool. Waste of a temp then really. Will ditch it in future.

Not sure Kham, that's what we were hoping to test last night but we never got an order floor.

[Nekradarken]

Are the order of the lamps in the dats the same order as you'd have to hit them on an ordered lamp floor?

Yes.

[Toxeus]

Out of curiosity, what temps do you guys take?

I generally take Spy's, Braver's, Soldiers, Clerics, Dusty Wing, Body Boost, Fanatics. Not even sure what Soldier's does (attack boost?) though. 1300 tokens per run and think you normally get 1200+ for a decent clear.

EDIT: Also seconding that Boss floors aren't terrible. We didn't hit a 60 yesterday but wouldn't use temps for 20/40. Might do for 60 and would for an 80.

Spec Enemy, Leader, Boss Floors are the nicest floors really. A nice lamp floor is good too but they are hit and miss. A bad kill all, spec enemies or lamps can really suck up a lot of time.

Ideally you want to be clearing 15+ floors per run. 110 seconds per floor gives you 15 clears and 2 min 30 left. So really you probably want 105 seconds or less.

uh i believe i use dusty potion dusty elixer monarchs clerics bravers body boost (always use at 15 minute mark, keep track of time on my phone) dusty wing fanatics (i bought potions now because if im ever alone and in a pickle i can use them aka save myself)

here's some insight though, we dont use/need temps for 60 troll/mamool it's easy mode
also for the troll or mamool on 60 which i think it alternates weirdly, i assumed it was same boss everytime, they do nasty AOE debuffs, and its why clerics is important to get rid of them fast
also have a clerics order is nice

80 you need fanatics.. fanatics just makes him into easy mode, aoe stun (wings of g) has no effect, blood rake no effect etc..plus when he's under 25% he will use nocturnal servitutde and eternal damnation, it could be under 50% but we kill too goddam fast with marches to notice

100 i would say add in fools, he casts spells, its why in my pic dimpson is dead, he also has 40 dmg blaze spikes up constantly

so in the event you reach floor 80 AND 100 would be fanatics for 80 fools for 100, the floor 100 boss wasnt HARD persay he did have a TON of defense/hp but he mostly spammed cackle and stuff, we didnt get him under 25% for the real potentially damaging tp moves to prolly appear, like thundarous shriek

[huckster]

Great job guys!

Updated:
http://www.bg-wiki.net/bg/Nyzul_Isle...egion/Strategy

It's wiki - go edit too!

[Lyramion]

I always bring a Spy Drink also. 30% Haste for 2minutes is great unless you ride some kind of fulltime Embrava,

[Miraun]

Alright, I've gone through the last 40 pages, taking all of the information and putting it into an excel spreadsheet.
Trying to find any types of patterns or stuff with the different floors, average floors per task, etc.

Random crap is random, here's the results thus far:


51 Instances of Kill All, average 6.38 Floors obtained each time
19 Instances of Lamp Order, average 5.43 Floors obtained each time
36 Instances of Specific Enemy, average 5.44 Floors obtained each time
34 Instances of Enemy Family, average 5.36 Floors obtained each time
2 Instances of Free Floors, average 9 Floors obtained each time
55 Instances of Leader Floors (including bosses), average 5.84 Floors obtained each time
7 Instances of Lamp Orders, average 6.33 Floors obtained each time
15 Instances of Same Time Lamps, average 5.71 Floors obtained each time

Doesn't look like the chances of getting each floor type are even (I can take out bosses and rerun the numbers on leaders), which was obvious, but now slightly more quantified. Looks like how many floors you climb is fairly consistent except free floors always appear to be 9... but all of 2 reported instances of that.

I'll run more metrics later, but more data would be awesome.

[Kalasin]

We had a free floor with 9 floors after as well, didn't think it's important enough to screenshot though.

[Toxeus]

here is some more data if u want it

Attempt #1:
Floor 1: Family Imps 5
Floor 4: Kill All
Floor 13: Specified Enemy Peryton
Floor 19: Leader Groaty Custard
Floor 21: Lamps Order 4
Floor 23: Mad Miner Boboroon
Floor 29: Lamps Order 5
Floor 31: Kill All
Floor 34: Family Pudding 3 Weapon Skills Restricted
Floor 43: Kill All Beetle NM Bee NM
Floor 47: Specified Enemy Peryton
Floor 55: Kill All Songs Restricted
Floor 60: Troll Boss Goliard +2 Purse
Floor 66: Kill All Ccl Dimp Died
Floor 70: Lamps Order 4 Exited

Attempt #2:
Floor 1: Lamps Same Time 4
Floor 6: Kill All
Floor 8: Lames Same Time 5
Floor 15: Specified Enemy Greatclaw
Floor 21: Leader Groaty Custard
Floor 23: Family Imps 3 Weapon Skills Restricted
Floor 31: Kill All
Floor 34: Family Rats 3
Floor 43: Lamps Same Time 5
Floor 52: Kill All Bee Nm
Floor 54: Lamps Same Time 5
Floor 56: Kill All Dog NM
Floor 62: Leader Nukku
Floor 64: Lamps Order 4
Floor 68: Kill All Beetle NM
Floor 75: Leader Nerve Render Yiviroon
Floor 80: Vamp Denali Head +3 + Coinpurse

[Miraun]

You singlehandedly dropped the lamp orders down to being in line within the expected average of 5.4-5.7. Not exactly surprising... random event is random!

Other data that I didn't post in my previous post:

77.53% Chance of Fighting Critters:
26.87% Chance of Defeat All
17.18% Chance of Defeat 1 Enemy
16.74% Chance of Defeat an Enemy Family
16.74% Chance of Defeat an Enemy Leader (I took boss encounters off of this measurement)

21.59% Chance of Lamps:
8.37% Chance of Single Lamp
4.85% Chance of Ordered Lamps
8.37% Chance of Same time Lamp

.88% Chance of Free floors

Any rounding is done via excel, so it may not add up exactly, and I'm too lazy to verify it.

Once I get out of the office, and maybe some more data, I'll post it in google docs or something for transparency.

[Ophannus]

Every time I get a boss floor, I get a pathos. Is getting a pathos on a boss floor higher than old Nyzul for boss floors?