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  1. #21
    Teleport-Mea Extraordinaire
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    For those folks impacted by this, might as well post on the official boards so SE can get a fire lit under their butts. While they are known for not necessarily listening to players, might as well do something with the lost time. I have linked the thread below.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ton-Mouse-move

  2. #22
    Hydra
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    lol if SE doesn't fix it, this will my my reason in "why you quit FFxi" thread

  3. #23
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Can I have your character if you quit Straw? I need a mule to troll pocket on.

  4. #24
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    And one wonders why some people can never turn around on gaze attacks...

  5. #25
    They're just like us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    Well, this certainly explains why so many people are awful at this game.
    ^ Time a million

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    I did not know that most people played consoles with a keyboard.
    Yes because keyboard = Mouse

    It's easy to adapt to buttons (keyboard)
    but many people who are used to controllers hate to use a mouse. the problem is the mouse not the keyboard to many people.

  7. #27
    Hydra
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    Last time i played a game without using a mouse was sometime in 1990's

  8. #28
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    I play games with good mouse control with my mouse.
    This. FFXI's mouse control is fucking terrible, this should be taken as a blessing in disguise.

  9. #29
    CoP Dynamis
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    Does this bug only refer to moving with the mouse or using the mouse in general (like using it to change the camera view)?

    Keyboard + Mouse ftw.

  10. #30
    xXNyteFyreXx420Sharingan
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    Camera still works.

  11. #31
    Atheist Douchebag.
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    People really use the mouse in FFXI?

    That explains a ridiculous amount.

  12. #32
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetanio View Post
    People really use the mouse in FFXI?

    That explains a ridiculous amount.
    Mouse is really good at times, especially if you use keyboard + mouse.

    For example - if there are multiple targets, instead of tabbing, you could click the target (helpful in crowded stuff).

    Also the scroll wheel allows fast and accurate managing of inventory and anything that involves scrolling in the game.

  13. #33
    Atheist Douchebag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crab_Cake View Post
    Things and stuff
    I wouldn't consider clicking on a target or scrolling with your mousewheel "using the mouse" in the sense that these people are using it.

    It really does explain why people suck at Gaze though.

  14. #34
    Resident Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crab_Cake View Post
    For example - if there are multiple targets, instead of tabbing, you could click the target (helpful in crowded stuff).
    Half the time I try to use the mouse to select something in a group, it always selects something closer to me and not the target itself, as if all character models have a large selection box around them or something.
    Also the scroll wheel allows fast and accurate managing of inventory and anything that involves scrolling in the game.
    Not as fast as skipping down a page by hitting right arrow key.

    That and the general interface is a waste on a mouse, so much unnecessary movement because some parts of the hud swap sides of the screen when you're opening things since it was intended to be used with directional input on a gamepad.

  15. #35
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    Wow, what the fuck is wrong with people.

    Also, my main issues with mouse were when the camera would move when I alt tabbed to a different window, so if I ever play again, hopefully they also disable that.

  16. #36
    Resident Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian View Post
    Wow, what the fuck is wrong with people.

    Also, my main issues with mouse were when the camera would move when I alt tabbed to a different window, so if I ever play again, hopefully they also disable that.
    There's been an option to stop mouse screen panning for years in the Camera option under Config....

  17. #37
    Salvage Bans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crab_Cake View Post
    Also the scroll wheel allows fast and accurate managing of inventory and anything that involves scrolling in the game.
    Try out shift-left arrow or shift-right arrow on keyboard; these will page-up or page-down inventory. Say you wanted to move some crap from mog sack into inventory, you press those shortcuts to quickly move to the bottom of one list without it switching to the other list (shift-right arrow and hold, you're at bottom of list as fast as it can load). This should be a lot faster than using a scroll wheel.

  18. #38
    Hydra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    Not as fast as skipping down a page by hitting right arrow key.
    Are you saying it's faster to use computer with Keyboard only?

  19. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawhat View Post
    Are you saying it's faster to use computer with Keyboard only?
    Yes. You can do everything faster with just the keyboard. Seriously if use the mouse, do everyone a favor and quit.

  20. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seph View Post
    Yes because keyboard = Mouse

    It's easy to adapt to buttons (keyboard)
    but many people who are used to controllers hate to use a mouse. the problem is the mouse not the keyboard to many people.
    Mouse are useful for RTS and FPS. This is neither. People hate using a mouse in this game because it's terrible, not because they are console gamers. If anything, a console gamer is going to have a greater tendency to use a gamepad.

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