NFL offseason thread: FOOTBALL STARTS SUNDAY

[Chun Liroy]

my fav thing about cowboys fans is that they think demarco murray will be good. LOL. he is julius jones all over again. plays a portion of rookie year and tears it up against soft ass teams. will return to be the worst ever.

Don't be mad that he's a cowboy and that that's the last place you wanted him to go.

HE'S A BALLER SHOT CALLER.

[archibaldcrane]

no X2

[Chun Liroy]

Wtf happened there

[tyven]

like archi said, you were wrong twice.

[Dimmauk]

holy shit

let's see

Bears 2011 offensive line: http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-lines-part-1/

32nd in the league.

Cowboys 2011 offensive line: http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-lines-part-2/

15th in the league.

Nah bro it's stats straight from the games. That's Football Outsiders schtick, the stats tell the tale.

LOL

[Cail]

I do sympathize with you that one of his WR is Roy Williams and his O-line is pretty terrible (not as bad as Romo's, mind you) but Cutler isn't near as good as Romo outside the pocket, so I guess that makes up for it.

If Romo's big knock is he doesn't win playoff games (by himself), shouldn't that apply to Cutty too? Has Cutler even made it to the playoffs yet?

not sure if serious or really fucking dumb

[Man0warr]

The fun thing about this convo is looking up these advanced rate stats

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...att_career.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...att_career.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...erc_career.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...att_career.htm

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...erc_career.htm

And seeing Aaron Rodgers just demolishing every other modern QB in every one of them. It's just nasty.

With Tony Romo right behind him on 3 of 5, and pretty close on the 4th.

holy shit

let's see

Bears 2011 offensive line: http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-lines-part-1/

32nd in the league.

Cowboys 2011 offensive line: http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-lines-part-2/

15th in the league.

All I know is Romo was sacked a career high last year and has missed 13 games total thanks to his O-line.

The biggest knock on Romo is that he comes up small in the playoffs. He has a 80.8 passer rating in his 4 playoff games (which would be 53rd in NFL history), and only scored more than 1 touchdown in 1 of those 4 (the only game he won). A guy who can't be counted on for even 12 points in the playoffs can't consider himself top-5.

Hard to score points when you are getting raped by Tuck, Osi, Strahan in one game and Jared Allen and the Williams bros in the other after your old ass O-line breaks down even further. Thanks Flozell.

[Dimmauk]

Gosh, how do the other QBs deal with pass rushers?

[archibaldcrane]

Hard to score points when you are getting raped by Tuck, Osi, Strahan in one game and Jared Allen and the Williams bros in the other after your old ass O-line breaks down even further. Thanks Flozell.

In his 3 playoff losses, Romo was sacked twice, twice, and 6 times (in a 37-3 assrape by the Vikings)

Only one of those games was he getting "raped" - yet he lost all 3, two of which were by less than a score. In the Giants game he had two fourth quarter possessions, one ended on 3 straight incompletions, the other on 2 incompletions and a INT.

The Seattle game was lost because he had terrible butterfingers trying to hold a GW field goal.

Romo comes up small in the playoffs.

[Dimmauk]

IT'S NOT ROMO'S FAULT HE SUCKS! IT'S EVERYONE ELSE!

[Chun Liroy]

In his 3 playoff losses, Romo was sacked twice, twice, and 6 times (in a 37-3 assrape by the Vikings)

Only one of those games was he getting "raped" - yet he lost all 3, two of which were by less than a score. In the Giants game he had two fourth quarter possessions, one ended on 3 straight incompletions, the other on 2 incompletions and a INT.

The Seattle game was lost because he had terrible butterfingers trying to hold a GW field goal.

Romo comes up small in the playoffs.

Good thing pass rush and bad oline play only shows up in the sacks stat.

Man, Ware is a one man pass rush wrecking crew then!

[Man0warr]

In his 3 playoff losses, Romo was sacked twice, twice, and 6 times (in a 37-3 assrape by the Vikings)

Only one of those games was he getting "raped" - yet he lost all 3, two of which were by less than a score. In the Giants game he had two fourth quarter possessions, one ended on 3 straight incompletions, the other on 2 incompletions and a INT.

The Seattle game was lost because he had terrible butterfingers trying to hold a GW field goal.

Romo comes up small in the playoffs.

C'mon, you know sack numbers don't mean shit. Even less so for someone like Romo who can usually avoid the sack, even if he still can't find a play to make.

You forgot to mention in that Giant's game that 2 of those incompletions in that last drive, one hit Crayton right in the chest and he dropped a surefire first down, and the other one Crayton quit on the fucking route with a wide open touchdown. The INT was the last ditch heave into the endzone.

Criticizing a QB for his holding abilities in a rainy game, when he shouldn't have been holding, is also laughable.

Romo deserves plenty of blame for the Jets/Lion game in 2011 and the Eagles game in 2009, but losing in the playoffs has been a team effort.

[Cail]

time to show my homer-ism like the dallas boys...

id take cam over romo. any day of the week.

[Man0warr]

Fact is, every QB is eventually going to be criticized until he is finally successful and wins a Superbowl.

No one remembers people criticizing Rodgers after he fucked up the last play vs the Cardinals in 2009 or whatever now that he has a ring, but after it happened they sure were.

Peyton also could never win the big one for years and years, until he finally did and all the criticism stopped.

It's just worse for Romo because of who he plays for.

[Cail]

Fact is, every QB is eventually going to be criticized until he is finally successful and wins a Superbowl.

lol if u think it stops there

[Chun Liroy]

time to show my homer-ism like the dallas boys...

id take cam over romo. any day of the week.

lollerskates

[Demosthenes11]

Fact is, every QB is eventually going to be criticized until he is finally successful and wins a Superbowl.

No one remembers people criticizing Rodgers after he fucked up the last play vs the Cardinals in 2009 or whatever now that he has a ring, but after it happened they sure were.

Peyton also could never win the big one for years and years, until he finally did and all the criticism stopped.

It's just worse for Romo because of who he plays for.

dont you dare compare romo to manning lol

[Chun Liroy]

lol if u think it stops there

Look at big ben, everyone is sucking his dick despite raping 3 women in 1999

[Cail]

Look at big ben, everyone is sucking his dick despite raping 3 women in 1999

look at eli. dude won a SB and everyone still laughed at him. so he went and won another

[archibaldcrane]

No one remembers people criticizing Rodgers after he fucked up the last play vs the Cardinals in 2009 or whatever now that he has a ring, but after it happened they sure were.

Point is, when Rodgers fucks up a playoff game, it's after scoring 5 TDs. Romo drops a FG snap in a game where he scored once.