NFL offseason thread: FOOTBALL STARTS SUNDAY

[Tyche]

That wasn't the winning season. The winning season was when Brady went out, wildcat season was the season before(or after, I forgot)..try again

[Cleverness]

Dolphins aren't very far from actually being competitive, terrible QB drafting has slowed them down but they have been really good the 2nd half of last season. Missing the veteran presence of Jason Taylor will probably effect the D abit but really, I will repeat it, .500 with Matt Moore as the starter after whats-his-face got injured in game3/4(?). The AFC isn't that dangerous, that's 1 major reason why Peyton wants to stay there. NFC is pretty fucking scary right now.

[Tweek]

In 2007, the Miami Dolphins went 1-15 and were the worst team in the NFL. A year later, they won the division following an 11-5 campaign. More than any other factor, it was Miami’s use of the wildcat offense that changed its fortunes. Throughout the 2008 campaign, the Dolphins ran 90 wildcat plays -- far and away the most significant use of the formation in the league. Those plays gained 580 yards (an average of 6.4 yards per play) and, most importantly, eight touchdowns. Miami used the wildcat in each of its 11 wins and showed the formation’s offensive upside in an early win over the Patriots. In that contest, Miami rode the wildcat to four touchdowns and 119 yards, and the New England defense was unable to make the necessary adjustments to stop it. The most telling overall stat? The Dolphins were 11-3 in games in which they ran the wildcat.

aight

[Bregor]

Are you using Wikipedia to educate Tyche about the Dolphins? Fucking lol.

[Tweek]

no, but i might as well cause he doesn't realize that was the year they used the wild cat and racked up 11 wins. would think even a casual MIA fan would know it, all my friends who are MIA friends sure as hell know it cause they've been paying for the ticket for the past 8 years throwing shit through their TVs.

[Tyche]

They broke out the wildcat against Tom Brady, they never played Tom Brady during their 11 win season. Any fin fan worth their salt knows that.

[Cleverness]

They ran 90 wildcats out of 965 offensive plays from scrimmage that year. Which is pretty close to 8% like Tyche said(9% if you want to get technical). If you consider running a formation 9% of the time 'riding it to victory' idk what to tell you Tweek.

[Tyche]

They ran 90 wildcats out of 965 offensive plays from scrimmage that year. Which is pretty close to 8% like Tyche said(9% if you want to get technical). If you consider running a formation 9% of the time 'riding it to victory' idk what to tell you Tweek.

It was due to 8% of their plays, it has nothing to due with an absence of Tim Brady and breaking the NFl record for the least among of turnover in nfl history.

[Tweek]

ok i'm sure it had nothing to do with their success over 21% of their total offensive TDs for the season were from that single play formation.


good luck with the manning lottery Tyche, it's obvious MIA is the absolute best fit for him they are a stellar organization from top to bottom and Manning would be lucky to have them take him. I wish you the best in your future.

[Bregor]

ok i'm sure it had nothing to do with their success over 21% of their total offensive TDs for the season were from that single play formation

I'm guessing it's because they ran it in the red zone more frequently than between the 20s. Just a hunch.

[Marootsoobutsu]

I'm guessing it's because they ran it in the red zone more frequently than between the 20s. Just a hunch.

Stop trying to contextualize data! Tweak has 32 teams to follow; he can't afford to waste time nuancing information like that. Bold strokes, people. BOLD strokes.

[Tyche]

They broke out the wildcat against Tom Brady, they never played Tom Brady during their 11 win season. Any fin fan worth their salt knows that.

This is wrong, had to go back and look it up. Broke it out against cassel. Five of their wildcat TDs came in that single game, so the percentage is heavily skewed toward one game. And as I said, they broke the turnover record that season and no Tom Brady...the wildcat was a small reason for their success.

[Tweek]

lol all you people are gonna dick ride Tyche, won't ever change the fact that he's completely wrong about this and lol @ this:

They broke out the wildcat against Tom Brady, they never played Tom Brady during their 11 win season. Any fin fan worth their salt knows that.

yeah... ok. It was against NE that they broke it out, but Tom Brady didn't play that game. You say it as if you vividly remember Tom Brady being on the fucking field on defense when they snapped the ball. It was the 3rd game of the season in 2008 in which they broke it out to upset a Win over NE and yeah Tom Brady was out for nearly the entire year so no you didn't "break it out vs TB" It was Dan Henning the OC who had tried it in CAR a few years before that who broke it out and implemented it into their offense with the help of David Lee who ran it with the Razorbacks

That wasn't the winning season. The winning season was when Brady went out, wildcat season was the season before(or after, I forgot)..try again

wrong again, not that it matters cause everyone around here just rides dicks it's less important about what's being discussed and more important about who is posting



Did you fucks not watch the season in 2008? Do you really not remember? jfc.

[Tyche]

It's easy to remember when you go google it. I'm sitting in class so I didnt bother spending time to look it up. I thought i may be wrong when i actually reflected on it, I went back, and I was wrong. I manned up above. That's my bad, but it's still irrelevant to the point you made.

[Tweek]

they broke the turnover record that season and no Tom Brady...the wildcat was a small reason for their success.

yep also big factors in their success that year but they wouldn't have done it without the wildcat, they would have been shut down running more often and would have done more traditional pass plays which would have probably lead to more turn overs, their turnover margin was +17 it was good

[Cleverness]

Oh cool we've degenerated into using the Valisk defense and thinking that everyone who opposes your point of view is dickriding the other person.

[Tweek]

It's easy to remember when you go google it. I'm sitting in class so I didnt bother spending time to look it up, I went back, and I was wrong. That's my bad, but it's still irrelevant to the point you made.

you sure seemed to remember so vividly, you even said

Any fin fan worth their salt knows that.

You're the one who started getting real defensive about me criticizing the MIA office and had to lash out, I don't think it's an unfair assessment to make considering how many people have taken off running from MIA and how many people turned down jobs that they offered. It's not that big of a deal, the franchise had been in trouble for a while I think they're headed in the right direction since '09 ownership wise but where Peyton goes he isn't going to have many years for a franchise to finish getting it's shit together I would think he would prefer going to a team with a very solid foundation, it's not like when he was drafted where he had time for them to build the team around him.

I would prefer his ass stay far far away from the NFC West,trust me. (since SF isn't interested =\ ) I just don't see why MIA would be his first choice

[Tyche]

I doubt it had anything to do with having the most accurate QB in NFL history.

[Cleverness]

49ers not being interested in peyton proves how stupid that team is. You realize the fucking dynasty that current team would have with Peyton instead of Alex Smith at the helm.

[Bregor]

I doubt it had anything to do with having the most accurate QB in NFL history.

Ronnie Brown is the most accurate QB in NFL history? I assume you mean him since they relied so heavily on the wildcat.