What the fuck is wrong with men?

[Callisto]

i was lying about the numbers

take that smarty pants

[Charismatic]

Last two pages prove the ladder theory is valid, bitches were tryin' to call homie buttfrustrated but everything is laid bare right 'chea.

[Mertron]

oh yeah, well, your uncle molests collies

[Callisto]

oh yeah, well, your uncle molests collies

wow, like, this isn't true, but it's really, really close, I'm impressed

[Mertron]

wow, like, this isn't true, but it's really, really close, I'm impressed

i have a powerful telescope

stop touching it

[Callisto]

Last two pages prove the ladder theory is valid, bitches were tryin' to call homie buttfrustrated but everything is laid bare right 'chea.

likelihood of getting that level of transparency out of a woman?

[Linliel]

I'm 28, over $45k in debt for a school degree that I wasn't able to finish, I can't get a decent job because of the lack of degree, can't pay down debt to start pursuing degree again because of lack of decent job, vicious cycle, etc. I have poor physical/mental health and no insurance, over $10k in medical bill debt, and after having my own place at the age of 19 I'm on pace to still be living with my mother at 30. If I'm extremely lucky, I'll have a kid that the very least doesn't have any major birth defects, isn't a complete shithead or idiot, and isn't overwhelmingly ugly. Things aren't exactly reaching upward for me post-30, lol.

Note that these complaints are largely mitigated by positives, while my life sucks now I had a solid decade of it being fucking awesome and had some really good times, I have currently have a rather large circle of amazing friends, I have several hobbies that keep me occupied and content, and there's a female who willingly touches my penis on a regular basis. Things could most definitely be worse.

Yeah, but that's pretty selfish of you (sorry but it is). What about her?

[Linliel]

That's the thing, it's not that I'm not happy with the relationship in particular, I'm just, well, not happy. I got some shit I'm trying to deal with and it hampers every aspect of my life, including the relationship. I really, really don't believe it's just because of her, I can tell she loves me pretty heavily, and I think that it'd be more unfair of me to hurt her feelings by breaking up with her just because I have shit wrong with me that keeps me from being happy in general.

Yeah but... you really think she'd want to be with someone who was with her just because they felt obliged to be? I know I wouldn't. That's all. I could see myself being in her situation and feeling really hurt if/when I found out what was going on.

[Odon]

Yeah, but that's pretty selfish of you (sorry but it is). What about her?

Rofl. Welcome to the reason for being in a relationship. If you weren't getting something out of it you wouldn't be in it. All relationships are based on some degree of selfishness.

[Callisto]

Pretty much, if she felt like I was doing bad by her, she would just dump me, no? And if not, she has her reasons not to, in which case she's not doing anything different than I am. It's not like all this shit would be 100% news to her. I was up front about my emotional/mental baggage before we even started dating and have continued to try to explain here and there that I think she's a great g/f but I don't have a whole ton of actual 'feelings' for anyone, not just her. She still chose to pursue me and continues to want to be with me, so part of that's on her.

[Linliel]

Rofl. Welcome to the reason for being in a relationship. If you weren't getting something out of it you wouldn't be in it. All relationships are based on some degree of selfishness.

There's a difference between positive selfishness and negative selfishness.

[Linliel]

Pretty much, if she felt like I was doing bad by her, she would just dump me, no? And if not, she has her reasons not to, in which case she's not doing anything different than I am.

Does she know you're only with her because you are okay with the status quo?

[Odon]

There's a difference between positive selfishness and negative selfishness.

That isn't fair at all. All relationships have their good and bad sides and its up to you to weigh them in to decide if its worth you sticking around. If you aren't getting what you want or need at the time why are you with that person? He's getting what he needs right now and by consequence so is she. Relationship will never have equal ground. He flat out said

She still chose to pursue me and continues to want to be with me, so part of that's on her.

She's chasing. There is nothing selfish about his situation.


Now if he wasn't doing right by her i.e being abusive, cheating, neglecting then sure I guess you're right. But that doesn't sound like that's the case.

[Odon]

Does she know you're only with her because you are okay with the status quo?

Isn't the only reason you would be with anyone is because you are okay with the way things are?

[Demosthenes]

Men simply do not find themselves enough in such situations to be intimidated and annoyed by women hitting on them, so they might not get why women are.

Actually...

[Linliel]

That isn't fair at all.

I'm just putting myself in her shoes. But I guess I don't know the whole situation. I certainly wouldn't want to be with someone who was only with me because they didn't want to hurt my feelings by breaking up with me. That's all.

[Linliel]

Actually...

Ha! I knew you'd like that.

[Linliel]

Isn't the only reason you would be with anyone is because you are okay with the way things are?

Yeah that's not quite what I meant - I meant more what I just wrote in the other reply to you.

[Odon]

I'm just putting myself in her shoes. But I guess I don't know the whole situation. I certainly wouldn't want to be with someone who was only with me because they didn't want to hurt my feelings by breaking up with me. That's all.

Fair enough!

[quannum]

do people actually take anything i say seriously

im only serious like 22.7 percent of the time

you should have some sort of disclaimer, i'll let you know if i can find one.