Marijuana Legalization/Decriminalization Efforts

[Timwakefield]

I saw rumbles on Facebook today of PA moving forward on Medicinal MJ, I need to verify the information still. If true, this is another big deal. PA has some of the shittiest laws against marijuana in the country. You can't even legally own a glass pipe in PA.

The bill is supposed to be filed today and is allegedly supported by both parties, from what I've read. And PA has the shittiest laws against everything. We don't even have beer in gas stations. PA can suck a dick.

[Roranora]

CS if it weren't for calories, you could put down this tub of butter over like 2-3 waffles. You'd feel that. (10x one gummy)

[Salodin]

I wouldn't be too certain about that.; that's what I was told with liquor and vicodin.

I drink maybe 3-4 times a year tops (and that's within the past 2 years. Usually once a year or less; and usually find myself putting down 6-8 shots of 151 proof or higher; and with Vicodin, I was having back pain and someone was like "oh, maybe you want to cut this in half if you've never had one before; it'll fuck you up" Ended up taking 3 at a time just to bike to/from school and even then it'd just reduce the pain; no high whatsoever lol.

but hey, I could be wrong. We'll see

Honestly, if you need that much vicodin then you need to not get high and take advantage of obamacare to go see a doctor lol.

[Cream Soda]

Honestly, if you need that much vicodin then you need to not get high and take advantage of obamacare to go see a doctor lol.

There's nothing to take care of. I don't qualify for free care. Lowest I can get is $113/month according to healthcare.gov

aka I'll be just as uninsured as I was before Obama came into office lol

[Tokitoki]

That gummy was supposed to be 9 servings? It's only the size of your thumb.

[archibaldcrane]

There's nothing to take care of. I don't qualify for free care. Lowest I can get is $113/month according to healthcare.gov

aka I'll be just as uninsured as I was before Obama came into office lol

Yeah, Florida refusing to expand medicaid under Obamacare is totally fucking you.

[Waraji]

Hate my state sometimes.

[Quixon]

D.C. decriminalizing small amounts of marijuana.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...,1869595.story

[6souls]

"Marijuana no more dangerous than alcohol"
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...5_72385760.jpg

US President Barack Obama has said smoking marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol, but still called it a "bad idea".

Speaking to The New Yorker magazine, he said it was wrong to think legalising the drug would be "a panacea" that could solve many social problems.

Mr Obama was referring to recent legalisation of marijuana in the states of Colorado and Washington.

He has previously admitted using the drug when he was young.

"As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life," Mr Obama said.

But he added that in terms of its impact on the individual consumer "I don't think it is more dangerous than alcohol".

He also said that poor people - many of them African Americans and Latinos - were disproportionately punished for marijuana use, whereas middle-class users mostly escaped harsh penalties.

"It's important for society not to have a situation in which a large portion of people have at one time or another broken the law and only a select few get punished."

Mr Obama described the legalisation of marijuana in Colorado and Washington as a challenging "experiment".

Colorado's law went into effect on 1 January, while Washington is expected to allow the drug's sale later this year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25805206

[notorious bum]

Holding firm on that center-right.

[Kuya]

Nigga loves that fence

[archibaldcrane]

If there's any hope left to hold out for brobama it could be that he's waiting to "evolve his position" until after the midterm elections.

Although he is right about this:

he said it was wrong to think legalising the drug would be "a panacea" that could solve many social problems.

I think both sides will be a bit surprised that legalization will be less of a big deal than they think.

[Waraji]

I'm more interested on the incarceration issue. What will happen to all the present and past persons incarcerated, more importantly their records. Will the receive a pardon by the state, or will their records remain intact as it was still illegal to do so during the time of their incarceration (more than likely the case). If so, what about the current sentences being served, should/would they be released or their sentenced cut even shorter?

I believe these new laws will have a much greater impact on the prison system than it will have on the free market.

[Cream Soda]

Makes sense to leave things as is. It's not about whether weed is bad for you or not. It's about a law was in place and they broke the shit. Reducing sentencing, pardons, removing it from the record just goes to say "If you don't agree with the law don't follow it even if it seems silly. If it ever does get overturned, then you won't have any problems"

but that said, if they did do all that stuff, I wouldn't give a shit, so it's w/e. Just wouldn't make sense to me.

[Quixon]

Current sentences would be cut severely short I'm sure. I highly doubt record of any related offense would be removed though.

[Salodin]

People could get themselves retried and subsequently have a sentence reduced or wiped completely. But if a person can't afford a lawyer to go through all that them they're Sol I suppose.

[Acevalefor]

What about the felony record? Having a felony for something that is (soon to be) not even illegal anymore is one hell of a cockblock from leading a normal life. How did they handle the alcohol related crimes when prohibition was repealed?

Reducing sentencing, pardons, removing it from the record just goes to say "If you don't agree with the law don't follow it even if it seems silly. If it ever does get overturned, then you won't have any problems"

I don't think that removing the charges and/or convictions would communicate that at all. If it is illegal at the time that you got caught, you do the time for getting caught until such time as it becomes legal. There cannot be any avenues for the people affected by vacating charges and removing records to seek retribution, of course. That would open a whole other realm of trouble if states and the feds had to deal with people expecting recompense for time served.

[Jaybar]

What about the felony record? Having a felony for something that is (soon to be) not even illegal anymore is one hell of a cockblock from leading a normal life. How did they handle the alcohol related crimes when prohibition was repealed?

Are there felony charges for minor possession? I don't think felonies for dealing or having large quantities on your person (i.e. trafficking) will be reconciled.

[archibaldcrane]

Even in California, you can get charged with felony possession if you have a concentrate (kief, hash, wax, etc) of any amount. The laws governing concentrates (even with a medical card, even if the concentrate was bought from a medical weed shop) are fairly unclear, and exuberant cops looking to get their dicks wet will still bring you in and charge you.

[ronin sparthos]

Can Obama hurry up and evolve already, there are enough brown people sitting in prison for this shit.