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[Shiyo]

Gotta love it when other publishers see a situation to make money, and goes with it - http://store.steampowered.com/sub/19282/?snr=1_4_4__112

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Given how much I sucked at Tropico 3, I'm holding off on this one for now

Tropico4 any good? Currently playing Sim City4 deluxe when not playing Tera, and I like it a lot. I loved theme park/sim city type games as a kid but randomly didn't play them for 13+ years, is Tropico4 as good as other older sim city games, or even better?

[Insanecyclone]

[6souls]

Tropico4 any good?

It's Tropico 3 with a facelift. Nicer graphics, but nothing has really changed from the previous version.

[Shiyo]

I don't know what tropico3 is, never played a tropico game.

[Dngnhack]

Picked mine up this afternoon. Only had a few hours to play it. It's fun but going to take a while to get building right so i don't have to blow up people's houses for classroom add-on. Dunno if it's cheating but i built 2nd town as only industry, sewer, dump, power plant etc etc etcwith a few houses and emergency services then buy all the stuff for my main town from it. Working well so far and if it needs money i just gift it.

Anyone who has played longer done this? does it work well to make larger cities?

[kuronosan]

I'm still laughing at people bitching about the online only component yet they still go out and buy the game as if it's going to incite change.

Sorry. I have better things to spend my money on than a game I can only play online.

[Lucavi]

I'm still laughing at people bitching about the online only component yet they still go out and buy the game as if it's going to incite change.

Sorry. I have better things to spend my money on than a game I can only play online.

Thanks for sharing.

In other news, you guys'll like this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...1174-4863-6924

TL;DR: An unconfirmed EA employee blowing the shit out of his own employer. Its a good read.

[Kisamoo]

I'm still laughing at people bitching about the online only component yet they still go out and buy the game as if it's going to incite change.

Sorry. I have better things to spend my money on than a game I can only play online.

Watch out we got a bad ass over here.
+1 Renegade Point

Sorry to say but it's something you better get used to quick. Two of biggest game companies have set the precedent, EA and Activision, the rest will follow suit. It's the new trend and it's not going to stop no matter much of a failure each launch is. At the very least, our collective bitching is getting us a free game out of it. The internet hate machine works and hopefully future developers are better prepared. Online only isn't gonna go away, nor is social gaming, DRM and micro transactions; and I personally hate all these trends but what are you gonna do? Sim City is a great game and if you're a fan of the series you're only missing out. Think about it, if the game was shitty we just wouldn't play it.

[Meresgi]

Watch out we got a bad ass over here.
+1 Renegade Point

Sorry to say but it's something you better get used to quick. Two of biggest game companies have set the precedent, EA and Activision, the rest will follow suit. It's the new trend and it's not going to stop no matter much of a failure each launch is.

Good for them, but that's not going to fix how completely FUCKED the industry is right now and how it seems to be heading to same crash and burn of the 1980s. All the debacles that EA has been through in the past year or so along with some other companies and a lot of people turning to really basic handheld games means less money for the console industry..and doing these online only games is not really the way to win over customers. Yeah I understand the reasoning to stop piracy but its a terrible thing to do to your legit customers. Why punish the people who actually purchase your game to prevent 10% or so loss of sales...that won't buy your game anyways to begin with honestly.

[Kisamoo]

People turned to handheld games because everyone got a smart phone. The only thing that's driving that bubble was cheap and free games, at the cost of privacy. That's an entirely different discussion and has nothing to with PC gaming. If you somehow think that the console industry or PC gaming industry is going away because of handheld games you're misguided. The only thing hurting the console industry is this generations abnormal lifespan. In fact, what makes you think the PC industry is crashing and burning? Last I heard World of Warcraft and League of Legends are holding up the PC gaming industry just fine and they're online only.

[Shiyo]

Online only is fine if you aren't complete cheap-skates like EA and refuse to actually buy enough servers or hire enough employee's to manage the servers properly. MMO's are online only and have MANY more people play than Sim City 5(Especially WOW), yet the servers don't blow up and they don't have to disable features 24/7. Games also shouldn't be designed in a way to FORCE you to play online in a series that's usually about single player. Having the option to play online with others, and it working nice? Good, but also let us be connected at all times, and enjoy the game ALONE just as well.

Not to mention the horrible things EA has done to the game by limiting things just so they can sell it as DLC later on(DLC +Map space to your city, limiting how big your city can be just so they can sell DLC to let you make it bigger). Lots of features removed, day1 DLC, "digital limited editions", selling other random crap, etc etc. It just screams "We want to milk you for as much money as possible", which is literally all EA does for all their games, and why they're a piece of shit company that needs to fucking die. EA in charge of ruining all video games they ever touch.

[Salodin]

Honestly the nickle and dime approach to a game that offered all this in the base price 10 years ago is why this game blows. I want to root for this game but I just cant.

[Kisamoo]

lmao, I was wondering why I was getting a bunch of abandoned buildings all of a sudden. I had recently just built a water pumping facility so I began to bulldoze my water towers. Turns out, these guys worked at the water tower so when I bulldozed it they had to move out. I feel so bad.

[Prothescar]

Wow good job Obama

[Uzor]

Even if it wasnt, the bugs lucavi mentioned make it a broken game.

What bugs? I must have missed that post.

The only ones I've ran in to is the lack of a work force (which I'm not entirely sure is a bug, but needs to be changed either way) and cities in a region not always updating their services (which for me has happened once in a blue moon). Sure, the traffic AI could need some work (8 garbage trucks driving in a line), but I don't think that's a bug either.

Also, I'm sitting at 350k people. How the fuck are you supposed to get to 600k for the last city hall upgrade? Every single residential building is at highest density and lowest wealth, and there's almost no industrial buildings (other than sometimes mixed in to keep them being low wealth) and only enough commercial to make them happy. I've an approval rating of 89% and no idea how to proceed.

I highly doubt the corner of water would allow me to have an extra 275k people.

[Kaisha]

I don't know what tropico3 is, never played a tropico game.

Smaller scale version of Sim City, where you have to manage your worker in addition to building up your banana republic. There's also political oppositions and other shit trying to vote you out as presidente, so you have to deal with that by any means necessary (bribery, hitman, be the better man, etc). Game had a lot of micro-managing on the workers though (builders, educators, managers, etc) which got in the way a lot for me, particularly when it came to getting shit built. Also making deals with russians/americans/etc for imports/exports/loans. Money is also really tight at the start.

Wish I had a vid handy that explained the setup of the game in an easy-to-digest manner.

[Meresgi]

People turned to handheld games because everyone got a smart phone. The only thing that's driving that bubble was cheap and free games, at the cost of privacy. That's an entirely different discussion and has nothing to with PC gaming. If you somehow think that the console industry or PC gaming industry is going away because of handheld games you're misguided. The only thing hurting the console industry is this generations abnormal lifespan. In fact, what makes you think the PC industry is crashing and burning? Last I heard World of Warcraft and League of Legends are holding up the PC gaming industry just fine and they're online only.

I dont see how WoW is "holding up" the pc gaming industry. Hell every MMO must be holding it up then if you want to go that route. As for consoles, do you really believe the generation lifespan is what's hurting it? I know a few people who decided they arn't even going to buy the new generation of consoles just based on how shitty this past generation has been. There were some hits along the way and some smooth patches, but it was pretty lackluster in a lot of areas with a ton of let downs where companies promised too much and didn't deliver, gave horribly rushed shit games, chopped their games up for DLC, and outright lied to the playerbase about what was going to come out lol.

http://www.businessinsider.com/chris...-review-2013-3

Good article honestly about the "always on" bullshit and how it's not really effective against pirating anyways. Just hurting the real customers in the long run. And sure, the game will be up and running soon and all the kinks will be worked out..but it's already burned into the minds of a lot of gamers as "do not touch". Why isn't there just an option in the game that lets you connect WHEN YOU WANT TO, which would allow all these people to play the game they bought and when they tried to connect they would get an error and say "Oh that sucks..oh well back to playing my game till they fix that shit and I can connect to my friend's cities".

[Trichocyst]

Tropico4 any good?

I really have fun with Tropico 4. It's Sim Banana Republic. You have a lot of different ways to make a thriving island, oppress the people, play the Yankees and Russians against each other for foreign aid, etc. It plays a lot like a Sim game.

[kuronosan]

Well have fun playing games that you don't own and can't play once they turn the "off switch" on and drop the servers.

It's the very reason models continue going in this direction, because Americans can't speak with their wallets.

It also has nothing to do with being an "internet badass". It's typical of people to bitch about something they want to change and yet continue to buy into it... which results in said change not coming about. You know... kind of like gasoline price except gas is necessary to drive your car.

[Souj]

Well have fun playing games that you don't own and can't play once they turn the "off switch" on and drop the servers.

Not sure if this argument flies on a forum where the majority of posters have or had played MMORPGs.

granted, I'm aware this is supposed to be a "single player" game and that there's a huge difference. I just think there is a lot of instances of people buying forms of media that doesn't have a shelf life of eternity.