Red Bull ad offends christians!

[Indeed]

Might reach other Christians who also find it offensive. It's kind of difficult to judge exactly to what degree a controversy will affect your brand. I'm sure companies can suffer from bad publicity at times, especially within hyper-religious environments, like those that exist in some parts of Africa. I don't necessarily believe that all attention is good attention, or Rush Limbaugh would still have sponsors. Sometimes it's more prudent to watch who you might offend, than just let it all hang out.

[6souls]

I don't like Huffington Post, so lets bring that video over here.

[Eurell]

I don't like Huffington Post, so lets bring that video over here.

Reported this post for offensive content.

[Khajit]

I found it funny but i could see how some people can get mad at it for attempting to have Jesus sell you energy drinks. There is alot of worse shit being trolled though and CHristians have been making Jesus jokes for centuries so getting mad at the thing because of the punchlines themselves is retarded. I mean seriously what kind of retard puts up a billboard saying slaves need to obey their masters in the middle of a black neighborhood and then claims to be a victim because it resulted in a bunch of angry black people?

[Moosey]

The kinds of "Christians" that are mentioned in this thread would probably be offended at this, but to actual Christians and not bandwagon-hoppers, this is eyeroll-worthy. The Bible clearly says to expect this kind of trolling, and to not to worry about it because they've earned their reward. I admit I giggled a bit with the whole "Jesus" saying Jesus thing, too.

[Milkster]

The kinds of "Christians" that are mentioned in this thread would probably be offended at this, but to actual Christians and not bandwagon-hoppers, this is eyeroll-worthy. The Bible clearly says to expect this kind of trolling, and to not to worry about it because they've earned their reward. I admit I giggled a bit with the whole "Jesus" saying Jesus thing, too.

Blasphemous. So I have a question: What happened to the people before Jesus that died did they get into Heaven? The only way to get into Heaven is through him, so how could they accept him if he wasn't around? Did Jesus get into Heaven? How can someone accept themselves as a supreme being, isn't that blasphemous? What about people who don't know anything about Religion, are they given free passes to Heaven?

[Siatdiat]

So I have a question: What happened to the people before Jesus that died did they get into Heaven? The only way to get into Heaven is through him, so how could they accept him if he wasn't around?

Having grown up in a crazy church, the explanation for this is that the three days he was dead he spent in hell, when he stole the keys to hell and broke out he freed all the people who were currently in hell. The other questions I don't know really, but I am sure there is some bizarre rationalizations going on.

[Ksandra]

Might reach other Christians who also find it offensive. It's kind of difficult to judge exactly to what degree a controversy will affect your brand. I'm sure companies can suffer from bad publicity at times, especially within hyper-religious environments, like those that exist in some parts of Africa. I don't necessarily believe that all attention is good attention, or Rush Limbaugh would still have sponsors. Sometimes it's more prudent to watch who you might offend, than just let it all hang out.

Gonna go with this. People need to take a joke, BUT this is about advertising. As well, I think some people are forgetting where this was getting advertised. While in places like America, Canada, we have plenty of people who are willing to take this as a funny joke, both Christian and non and therefore could be gotten away with, this wasn't where the commercial was shown. It would be like the difference between using a commercial here with Muhammad in it, vs using the commercial in the Middle East. They may need to loosen up, but this isn't about "loosening" up, it's about sales.

[Marootsoobutsu]

Blasphemous. So I have a question: What happened to the people before Jesus that died did they get into Heaven? The only way to get into Heaven is through him, so how could they accept him if he wasn't around? Did Jesus get into Heaven? How can someone accept themselves as a supreme being, isn't that blasphemous? What about people who don't know anything about Religion, are they given free passes to Heaven?

Seriously want explanations, or looking to lolReligion no matter what's said?

Edit: on topic, as a Christian I found the add somewhat humorous. It's also based on an old joke about a priest, a minister, and a rabbi, but still amusing.

[Drex]

Flagged for promoting terrorism

[Moosey]

Having grown up in a crazy church, the explanation for this is that the three days he was dead he spent in hell, when he stole the keys to hell and broke out he freed all the people who were currently in hell. The other questions I don't know really, but I am sure there is some bizarre rationalizations going on.

Sort of, but not really. Jesus basically went down into Hades to proclaim his victory over death, but that's it. Whoever is in Hades, is there until the Final Judgement, at which point they'll be put into Hell for eternity. Hades is what "Hell" is currently, it's basically a holding place for the unbelieving dead.

Blasphemous. So I have a question: What happened to the people before Jesus that died did they get into Heaven? The only way to get into Heaven is through him, so how could they accept him if he wasn't around? Did Jesus get into Heaven? How can someone accept themselves as a supreme being, isn't that blasphemous? What about people who don't know anything about Religion, are they given free passes to Heaven?

So, the people that died before Jesus came about: To my understanding, if one was to be open to accepting Jesus based on their great faith and obedience to God, they were admitted to Heaven as if they had actually known about Jesus and his work. Jesus has always been around, he just came to Earth as a human about 2012 years ago.

Jesus is God, so he did not need redeeming, so therefore he did not need to "accept himself" to get to Heaven, as he has always been there.

Blasphemy is slandering or saying things contrary to a given belief, Jesus didn't do any of these things, so no, not a blasphemer.

As for people that don't know about "religion", I don't think there is any group of people who do not know "religion". Everyone has some sort of religion. Whether or not they have the Gospel is another story. The vast majority of people in the world HAVE heard at least some of it, and a vast majority of the people in the world have at least some inkling as to who Jesus is. A vast majority get the rest of his identity wrong, but that's another discussion. I believe that the case for people who have truly not heard the Gospel is the same case for Old Testament people. If they would have been open to the Gospel, Jesus's sacrifice covers them as well. God has, in many cases, very blatantly revealed himself in the world. It is through these means that a person who has not heard the Gospel can come into a relationship and know God.

You probably have heard it before, if not, you absolutely have plenty of opportunities to do so. What's stopping you from believing?

[Siatdiat]

As for people that don't know about "religion", I don't think there is any group of people who do not know "religion". Everyone has some sort of religion. Whether or not they have the Gospel is another story. The vast majority of people in the world HAVE heard at least some of it, and a vast majority of the people in the world have at least some inkling as to who Jesus is. A vast majority get the rest of his identity wrong, but that's another discussion. I believe that the case for people who have truly not heard the Gospel is the same case for Old Testament people. If they would have been open to the Gospel, Jesus's sacrifice covers them as well. God has, in many cases, very blatantly revealed himself in the world. It is through these means that a person who has not heard the Gospel can come into a relationship and know God.

You probably have heard it before, if not, you absolutely have plenty of opportunities to do so. What's stopping you from believing?

Bold 1: Every denomination and sect of christianity thinks they have it right and that all the other christians are stupid.

Bold 2: I beg to differ.

Bold 3: First off, you say that I'm pretty sure thinking of the western world. For the latter part of that, my answer is, Where do I start?

[Byrthnoth]

One thing is certain. Whatever unreasonable thing Atheists do, the religious folk they antagonize always manage to make them look good.

[Siatdiat]

One thing is certain. Whatever unreasonable thing Atheists do, the religious folk they antagonize always manage to make them look good.

So, are you saying I'm an unreasonable atheist and I'm antagonizing Moosey? All I see are me responding to his post with questions, but as usual expressing doubt = unreasonable, antagonist atheist.

[Uzor]

I found the add hilarious. I also saw a Red Bull add in Sweden a while ago with Jesus carrying the cross, and then being offered a Red Bull - which allowed him to fly away and drop the cross, much to the dismay of the soldiers.

People really need to lighten up if they find this add offensive.

[Churchill]

WE NEED TO SEND SUICIDE BOMBERS TO RED BULL THAT BE A MOTHERFUCKING CARTOON OF JESUS (Peace be with you)

[Milkster]

Sort of, but not really. Jesus basically went down into Hades to proclaim his victory over death, but that's it. Whoever is in Hades, is there until the Final Judgement, at which point they'll be put into Hell for eternity. Hades is what "Hell" is currently, it's basically a holding place for the unbelieving dead.



So, the people that died before Jesus came about: To my understanding, if one was to be open to accepting Jesus based on their great faith and obedience to God, they were admitted to Heaven as if they had actually known about Jesus and his work. Jesus has always been around, he just came to Earth as a human about 2012 years ago.

Jesus is God, so he did not need redeeming, so therefore he did not need to "accept himself" to get to Heaven, as he has always been there.

Blasphemy is slandering or saying things contrary to a given belief, Jesus didn't do any of these things, so no, not a blasphemer.

As for people that don't know about "religion", I don't think there is any group of people who do not know "religion". Everyone has some sort of religion. Whether or not they have the Gospel is another story. The vast majority of people in the world HAVE heard at least some of it, and a vast majority of the people in the world have at least some inkling as to who Jesus is. A vast majority get the rest of his identity wrong, but that's another discussion. I believe that the case for people who have truly not heard the Gospel is the same case for Old Testament people. If they would have been open to the Gospel, Jesus's sacrifice covers them as well. God has, in many cases, very blatantly revealed himself in the world. It is through these means that a person who has not heard the Gospel can come into a relationship and know God.

You probably have heard it before, if not, you absolutely have plenty of opportunities to do so. What's stopping you from believing?

What makes the judeo-christian God more right than any other deity in the world though? Why would someone want to become a part of a religion where all the numerous sects and subdivisions of said religion are warring with each, can agree on very little, and believe different things.

[Greatguardian]

Blasphemous. So I have a question: What happened to the people before Jesus that died did they get into Heaven? The only way to get into Heaven is through him, so how could they accept him if he wasn't around? Did Jesus get into Heaven? How can someone accept themselves as a supreme being, isn't that blasphemous? What about people who don't know anything about Religion, are they given free passes to Heaven?

You're just messing with Moose so have fun with that, but it should be pretty common knowledge that the sons of Abraham and Isaac were the only ones getting into heaven from the get-go. Christianity came about much later, and following Jesus was simply a way for those who were not a member of God's chosen people to slip past St. Peter. If you want a practical application of that transition, it would make the accumulation of political and economic power by the church significantly easier when you let just anyone join your religion.

[ronin sparthos]

Sort of, but not really. Jesus basically went down into Hades to proclaim his victory over death, but that's it. Whoever is in Hades, is there until the Final Judgement, at which point they'll be put into Hell for eternity. Hades is what "Hell" is currently, it's basically a holding place for the unbelieving dead.

Interesting you note Hell as a place for the "unbelieving dead" and not "the morally bankrupt" as it gives an interesting insight into the system of Heaven and Hell.

Someone who lives a life of compassion, charity and activism is sent directly to eternal torture for simply refusing to believe an idea whereas a person who spends their lives doing morally reprehensible things is locked in for eternal rewards so long as they make sure to accept Jesus sometime before dying.

Now I may be no deity but something seems distinctly wrong with such a system.

As for people that don't know about "religion", I don't think there is any group of people who do not know "religion". Everyone has some sort of religion. Whether or not they have the Gospel is another story. The vast majority of people in the world HAVE heard at least some of it, and a vast majority of the people in the world have at least some inkling as to who Jesus is. A vast majority get the rest of his identity wrong, but that's another discussion. I believe that the case for people who have truly not heard the Gospel is the same case for Old Testament people. If they would have been open to the Gospel, Jesus's sacrifice covers them as well. God has, in many cases, very blatantly revealed himself in the world. It is through these means that a person who has not heard the Gospel can come into a relationship and know God.

Of course most parts of the world are aware of the Gospel as it was spread through slavery, death and conquest. To many of the people who were first introduced to Christianity they had little choice but to convert or be subject to some of the most cruel inventions of man possible bought and paid for by your religious faith.

This isn't to say that the people of far-off lands were living in bliss before Christianity showed up but for a system that professes love and compassion the cruelties unleashed upon those who happened to encounter Christians is well-documented though often forgotten. The world only has as many Christians as it does because it carved a bloody swathe across the planet, destroying anything in its path and very little of this has to do with any revelations from God.

Further this is all while just a few thousand miles to the East no one had heard heads or tails of Jesus until faith traveled by human means. 2000 years ago one of the most significant events in history happened and only the people in a small corner of the ME were privy to the details? Sucks if you were on the wrong continent I guess but the Mormons fixed that little problem.

You probably have heard it before, if not, you absolutely have plenty of opportunities to do so. What's stopping you from believing?

The history of religion itself, the inconsistencies within the texts, the refusal of believers to follow to the letter what they profess to believe, the lack of physical evidence, the countless sects of religions all claiming to be right, the cruelties that are frequently accepted as being morally acceptable and the divisive nature of the entire affair are what keep me from believing.

[bechyni]

Why couldn't we all just laugh at this commercial?