Healer Debate

[Polux]

Hey guys,
So I was going to sign up and get into the next closed BETA and I was going to play both a Priest and a Mystic. I want to focus on healing in TERA. I will be trying out both classes to see what I like best but I was wondering what class you guys thought was best to have in dungeons and in PvP.

I watched the guides on both the Priest and the Mystic and what concerned me most about the Mystic is that he has to poop out the red balls and it is your team's responsibility to eat the poop to survive. Being from WoW, I do not have a good history with trusting group members to do anything and Priest seemed most appealing being that i could control everyone's health, but the only thing that is keeping me considering the Mystic is the Aura of Kickass (double crit).

Which class would you want more in your group and why?
Is the Aura of Kickass really as awesome as it sounds to where I should roll a Mystic just for the benefit?

Thanks guys :D

[shidobu]

gotta be shitting me

you do know half the point of a beta... is to try out the game before you buy it right?

FUCKING PLAY EACH CLASS THEN MAKE A CHOICE. Doesn't matter what other people think. As long as you like the job and are good at it. Thats all that matters

[Gulkeeva]

As someone that plays a dps and mindlessly slaughter everything killable, and also as a raider for warcraft...

if you want "personal opinion"... I don't like having to go chasing some balls >.> during a fight, its dps down time. But then again, for several the 5mans , either way as a melee I have at times needed to run out, because its pretty hard to notice the red eye glow/emote humping the bosses butt (but then again, its the best dps boost as castanic + gem bonuses).

Since I've only been playing the US beta, and don't know how well endgame healing works out and dps defensive cooldowns work, its hard to say really. Like mentioned above, play whichever you like the most. Playing the class you like the most = playing at your best potential, if you play a class you don't like too much, you tend to slack... its pretty noticeable in warcraft (since theirs recount and other ways of tracking peoples performance).

Seeing some the "hardcore mode" 5man fights, as a melee its pretty rough, having the healer slack on such an intensive fight would be bad ;/

[Soho]

gotta be shitting me

you do know half the point of a beta... is to try out the game before you buy it right?

FUCKING PLAY EACH CLASS THEN MAKE A CHOICE. Doesn't matter what other people think. As long as you like the job and are good at it. Thats all that matters

Yeah! Why would you ever want to ask anyone else's opinion that might have more experience with something than you have?! Outrageous!

What a douche.

This is grossly over-simplifying and everything is situational, but if you had to speak in general terms, Priest is probably better for PvE and Mystic is probably better for PvP.

Here's a comparison guide that might help you see why this seems to be the common consensus:
http://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forum...mparison-Guide

[Avarice]

I couldn't live without the balls that Mystics drop, especially the MP motes; I'm fairly certain my character is addicted to them and could suffer from withdrawls if she doesn't get enough.

[shidobu]

Yeah! Why would you ever want to ask anyone else's opinion that might have more experience with something than you have?! Outrageous!

Theres a random question thread which he could have asked in, this did not warrant a whole thread. And considering the experiences of many/most of us here are only up to lvl 32. These opinions don't carry any fucking weight other than "i like this, i don't like that".

What a douche.

your mother

[Coren]

According to that link, you can mainheal everything in the game as a mystic. If that is the case, would you ever want a mystic and a priest in a party? Does a mystic add enough damage boost/cc/other capability that it's worth having both? Mystic seems to be like RDM. Yes they *could* mainheal, but it was kindof a pain in the ass, and most of them were bad at it.

[warc]

I played Mystic during the last beta and had no problems managing to heal through the first lv20 instance. The only issue is other people not picking up motes. My group's archer thought it was a good idea to not do anything but shoot even when i had a group of like 5 motes near him and he was at 25%. I let him drop down to 10% before tossing my only direct heal spell at him. I even told him repeatedly to pick up motes but either he couldn't read, or wanted me to suffer. I would be wary of PUGs as a mystic, but even when having to use my target heal, I was never in danger of letting someone die. That is on the first instance however. It might get worse as you go on. Pick whichever class you enjoy more. I don't think having one over the other will be a huge handicap. Mystic aoe buffs are pretty cool, however.

As far has having both priest and mystic, I seriously doubt the benefits of both would take the place of a DD. So far mystic's only crowd control is a 2 target sleep on a 30s timer. It reminds me of bard's lullaby from ff11. Its cool to have but not really dependable. Priest has one I think as well, but I haven't played the class so not sure.

Also this:

[Sonomaa]

a mystic is the healing power similar to a priest but in pickup form

consider a priest a white mage, healing only, some protection
a mystic is your red mage, different style of healing, requiring a little more care from your DPS but the ability to restore mana which is super super useful.

if a DPS wont pick up the blue balls its not your fault, they just have to click once to get life back

[SilverBreeze]

I'm pretty sure when people are looking for a healer, they won't care if you're a priest or a mystic, as long as your class icon is green.

If you're playing with a guild or a group, I'm really sure they won't care if you're a priest or a mystic, as long as you're not retarded and your class icon is green.

They're both healers, they both heal perfectly fine. Mystic obviously involves a little more of your group's awareness and willing to cooperate. Play what suits you best, we have plenty more beta time to decide. Don't feel pressured to play one or the other because of X ability. I've seen way too many people these days going "I really like Priest, but people say Mystic is better, but I want to play a priest..." Then play a Priest!

If optimization was really that much of an issue, we'd all be playing Sorcerers, Mystics, and Lancers and everyone else could be damned, but it's not that important to warrant you playing something you may not be happy with in the long run.

[Soho]

I'm not sure about optimization on these two classes as I don't play them, but I think I can explain quickly why Mystics are considered the preferred PvP healer.

I play Warrior. In group PvP my job is primarily healer harassment. In my experience, it is far easier for me to stay on top of or even kill a Priest than it is for me to stay on top of a Mystic. I think it's probably Mystic's better variety of escapes and CC's that tip the scale in their favor for PvP healing.

@shidobu
You're cool. And helpful. I like you.

[CasualPlayer]

gotta be shitting me

you do know half the point of a beta... is to try out the game before you buy it right?

FUCKING PLAY EACH CLASS THEN MAKE A CHOICE. Doesn't matter what other people think. As long as you like the job and are good at it. Thats all that matters

Such a constructive response.

[JigglyJam]

Even if your DPS/tank don't pick up the HP/MP balls you can still restore their hp/mp otherwise. The Enemy HP drain -> party MP restore ability and the targeted heals. The downside to the drain ability is that you enter combat to use it and mana infusion only works while not attacking on top of the reduced movement speed.

Healing isn't difficult at all on Mystic. Mystic is a pretty busy class too. Drop motes, run in for titanic wrath buff or that enemy buff erase move, target party members for heals and debuff removals. If I'm sitting on top of MP I'll throw in a few volley of curses and do that drain hp ability. In PvP sleep and Mire are tits too.

I think if I ever played priest I'd probably be pretty bored but like others have said, play whichever class you like the most.

[shidobu]

@shidobu
You're cool. And helpful. I like you.

i like you too ^.~

I dont see how im getting painted a bad guy here for telling him to just play both classes then pick one.
Was i brash about it? Yes, but there isn't any need to sugar coat it. Weird how 3 people come in behind me and pretty much say the exact same thing.

play whichever you like the most. Playing the class you like the most = playing at your best potential, if you play a class you don't like too much, you tend to slack...

Pick whichever class you enjoy more.

I think if I ever played priest I'd probably be pretty bored but like others have said, play whichever class you like the most.

im done said my piece

[sander]

End game pve mystic are more preferred overall. They have the MP and crit chance increase auras. Which helps the dds need to do less basic attacks to get their mp back while giving them higher chance to do crits on abilities.

It all comes down to preference in the end xD

[Kachiko]

According to that link, you can mainheal everything in the game as a mystic. If that is the case, would you ever want a mystic and a priest in a party? Does a mystic add enough damage boost/cc/other capability that it's worth having both? Mystic seems to be like RDM. Yes they *could* mainheal, but it was kindof a pain in the ass, and most of them were bad at it.

For Dungeons, you'll do absolutely fine with either a Priest or Mystic; never both as there are fights where you need to DPS adds down, FAST, or you die, and a two healer PT can not get the job done.

Hanging out with your friends, smashing world BAMS or lower level content? Do whatever you want.

[Kipling]

We usually used a priest, but that was because it allowed one of us to go Sorcerer instead of Mystic. And 2x sorcerer on anything = ded. Mystic's crit Aura is wonderful though, and the fact that the balls can be picked up as you run with no stopping is HUGE.

[Senji]

I dont see how im getting painted a bad guy here for telling him to just play both classes then pick one.
Was i brash about it? Yes, but there isn't any need to sugar coat it. Weird how 3 people come in behind me and pretty much say the exact same thing.

Play whichever you like best with flowers and feelings and hugs = Alla discussion response

Hard data and comparison debate, possibly to eventual flamewar = BG Advanced





PVE, both will do fine. Group PVP is what matters.

[Koul]

I only have experience healing in the first dungeon as a priest but I thought it was a boatload of fun. I might try a mystic next beta to see how it is but like others have said, if people aren't picking up the motes, that's not my fault and I will let you die. Ya can't do any dps if you're dead so pick up the motes or else ^_^ if the class is as busy as people are saying, I'm not gunna pick up your slack.

[Katlan]

Such a constructive response.

So is your post. Your post is even more worthless than his.

All you did by posting what you did is trying to start a shit fest. You do this is a lot of threads and it's 75% of what you do on the forums. If you blatantly try to instigate ppl I will delete your posts and report you further if needed. You are warned, don't go shitting up threads