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    That is really the one problem I'm worried about with Mystic, having to explain the motes until I realize people are actually using them. I understand it is a new concept to dps and will take some getting used to, but most dps are just going to be worried about "winning" too much to care and will end up causing a lot of death because of that. But pugs will almost always be pretty fail, especially in a game like this, so, I can't be too surprised.

    edit: It shouldn't be too bad playing with friends/people that are actually good though.

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    Having rolled a priest on the last CB and done a little healing in dungeons I never really felt hampered or in much danger of letting people die. Only problem is with the active targeting system, tagging the right people with your targeted heal can be tricky. If one of the DPS needs a quick heal and everyone else is doing fine (no need to run in for an AoE heal yet) then it can be a bit tough to pick them out of the dps crowd around the bam's butt.

    However, even with a priest DDs need to know to watch for the AoE healing pools on the ground to get their effect. A lot of that will be the priest's job to make sure they go down in convenient places, but if you put one down and a DD just runs the other way there's not much you can do except tag him/her with a targeted heal and waste mana. I'm sure that the classes have been balanced to ensure that Priests and Mystics are comperable in healing power for most situations. But in the end I think it'll come down to Priests being the better main healers, while Mystics add more support abilities with healing that's not as good (maybe less 'oh shit' heals?) as Priests can be.

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    I kind of agree with elesirdur as a mystic. Priests seem like they allow for more leniency in the healing department. They get two self recovery mp abilities? high HP recover aoe spells and some nice defense spells? On top of speed, stength and a couple more buffs i think. PvP i'd feel safer with a priest healing than a mystic as they've also a got a bit more survivability against other players. Rolling with a mystic and priest combo in a pvp group sounds pretty awesome though.

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    I have every plan to go priest, both I'm sure are competent it just depends on playstyle

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    Iv said it before to people as well, Mystic is a rdm, they can put up damage, refresh and cure the parties hp/mp, they can also do everything else a priest can do for basic stuff(like str buffs, speed buffs, single/multi cure, sleep). The difference is, priest does def vs offensive buffs, increase resistance to damage/crit instead of buffing it. I dont recall mystic getting the mass cure I had as priest where anything within like 5m infront of me would get cured to pretty much full 5K+ healing burst (As a priest I have 2 regen spells, do not know if mystic gets those or not). With mystic offering the rdm/brd approach to being able to Constantly restore mp, im sure the dps who depend on having mp to deal large damage would prefer a mystic. For fights where the tank is taking 50% damage from a special move, having a priest able to refill the hp bar in 1 go, and not 3-4 single refills would be the option in that case. (and im sure the lancer cant just jump back to pick up a mote, unless the mystic wants to stand under the mobs feet).
    So your left with how you want to play, and the play style of the people fighting. If you are zerging a mob, you probably want the rdm or bard buffing the dd's so they can kill it quickly(Mystic). If you have to turtle down, (or the damage dealers can only go in during special time), you want the Priest for backup to maintain health.

    So they have each a use, and in normal cases where the tank can take care of him/herself (most cases you are same level or higher then the "bosses" you fight) mystic is more then enough to support and maintain quick kills. Should later on, you are forced or feel like killing a mob 10+ levels over you, like we did last beta before servers went down, I think going at it without a priest would have been crazy, most everyone who was next to the mob, would be at less that 50% health if they got touched. You have to look at it from all sides too, as motes are a regen effect, where as primary cure spells are instant healing. Play as you see fit, or what fits the situation. I recall reading priest is supposed to be getting a buff or something due to the fact, from my best guess, you wont be killing stuff so far over your level, a mystic wont be able to manage the entire game, from start to finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    I have every plan to go priest, both I'm sure are competent it just depends on playstyle
    I would defiantly agree with this. There are situations where each class might edges out the other but both are strong classes that do the role they were created for well.

    edit: glad to see you are still digging this game Katlan, I know you've been following it for a long time too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rulke View Post
    I would defiantly agree with this. There are situations where each class might edges out the other but both are strong classes that do the role they were created for well.

    edit: glad to see you are still digging this game Katlan, I know you've been following it for a long time too.
    Ive just been really busy w/school. And haven't played much of the beta because my free time is very limited until after finals, so wasting time leveling in a beta when characters are gonna be wiped isn't "limited free time" well spent lol.

    I'm still very interested in TERA and gw2 though

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    Well the thing with the little orbs is....

    They need to be placed on the floor.
    Situational problems...!

    1. Tank is too lazy to drag boss around the room, toward "fresh" new spots where you placed the orbs.
    2. Someones being an ass and just eating them like candy if he gets near it just to heal a spec of damage.
    3. Boss is doing his thing, completely avoiding where you placed the orbs. (or you could spend like 5min placing 5 dozen orbs in every possible inch of the room)


    while as a actual healer, jsut needs to toss out their heal (presuming its like archers craptacular multi hit lock on target ability where you mouse over people)

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    First off, Hiya BG. I'm (kind of) new here. I mostly just read random threads, but I actually broke down and signed up. ;-;

    Anyway, know what would be awesome for Mystic? ORB LAUNCHER. Launch the orb 15m in front of you, and on impact, heal the player. Wha-bam!

    I know I would love it...Especially since my experience as a Mystic involved educating the masses on how wonderful my balls of love are--and people still wouldn't use them.

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    As a slayer, FUCK YEAH, MYSTIC

    Seriously, those Blue Balls increase my damage by at least 30% simply because I don't have to use my shitty melee attack, I can spam all specials on cooldown.

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    Indy... after playing with your slayer all the time... every time i see a female aman, i think they are slayers and wonder why they are using staves or clubs... ><;

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    Hey guys, hours of playing both mystic and priest, I have decided to roll a priest. I feel like I am in more control while healing and am more comfortable with a priest rather than a mystic.

    Thanks for the help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polux View Post
    Hey guys, hours of playing both mystic and priest, I have decided to roll a priest. I feel like I am in more control while healing and am more comfortable with a priest rather than a mystic.

    Thanks for the help!
    Thanks for not supplying us with magic blue balls you jerk >:O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Thanks for not supplying us with magic blue balls you jerk >:O
    You should have your addiction to balls looked into, it could become serious o_o

    erm.. anyway yeah priest... healing seems so much better, theirs just times, you can't go out of your way to leap over and grab some balls... for hp/mp >.>

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    I disagree; I will always go out of my way for delicious skittles!

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    As a Lancer, both healers are just fine. I personally would rather have a good mystic from my beta experience, but I would rather have a bad priest over a bad mystic...

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    Not having had much chance to play, well I created a character in obt5 then had to leave without getting to play. I'm looking at playing through most content with a small group of friends 3-4 as a base. I'll be rolling either a warrior or lancer as a tank, preferably lancer, one will be dd leaning towards archer for now. Just wondering whether mystic or priest would work better with these combinations or its the usual go play see what you like and what works best? i'm thinking Priest will be better healer overall, mystic will add more utility at the cost of making us all fat from eating skittles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keshad View Post
    Not having had much chance to play, well I created a character in obt5 then had to leave without getting to play. I'm looking at playing through most content with a small group of friends 3-4 as a base. I'll be rolling either a warrior or lancer as a tank, preferably lancer, one will be dd leaning towards archer for now. Just wondering whether mystic or priest would work better with these combinations or its the usual go play see what you like and what works best? i'm thinking Priest will be better healer overall, mystic will add more utility at the cost of making us all fat from eating skittles.

    Gotta love them blue balls as berserker... only thing is, you can't eat enough... its like an addiction, you just start spamming as fast as you can in hopes you get it all before anyone else does O_o Overall though i still like priest heals, its big... and won't require me to run after... balls!

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