Teenager shot/killed while Tweek's hero gets off free

[Sera]

Look at the arrest form: negligent homicide: unnecessary killing to prevent illegal activity"?

So, walking around at night is illegal now? Maybe it was the skittles. Oh wait no, maybe the hoodie.

Or did FL finally make being out after dark illegal for black people?

[Headspace]

Look at the arrest form: negligent homicide: unnecessary killing to prevent illegal activity"?

So, walking around at night is illegal now? Maybe it was the skittles. Oh wait no, maybe the hoodie.

Or did FL finally make being out after dark illegal for black people?

Made it illegal to be black.

[Yugl]

I personally don't see anything wrong with this. If they're off-duty, they're not responsible for answering questions if they don't want to. They need an opportunity to wash their hands and go home, just like the rest of us do in relation to our own jobs. Additionally, they're entitled to the protections that being in their workplace gives.

Any journalist acting like the paparazzi in hopes of securing a candid interview with an unwilling candidate isn't exempt from respect, nor the law. That's why the paparazzi can get arrested, after all. This is also how bullshit stories based on a cobbled-together list of rumors, half-truths, etc., start, and in an important case like this, the last thing we need are more rumors.

This has nothing to do with individual opinions about the people involved, and everything to do with not being an insufferable douchebag that just makes things worse.

Fucking this. There may be people among "city employees" that want to arrest the guy. To argue that everyone involved is supportive of the incident is unfounded.

[jmc]

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news...quicker_t.html

That type of shit happened in Baltimore. And people are still calling and say there's guns involved when there is not just to get police there faster.

It happens everywhere.

Had a call for a unknown individual pounding on this guys door, while waving a firearm.

Got down there, only to find out the caller wanted a officer to arrive quickly because someone scratched his car.

[Milkster]

The biggest flaw with Zimmerman's story is: If he was underneath Trayvon when they were wrestling and consequently shot him, where's Trayvon's blood on any of his clothing/him?

[hey]

Sounds about right.

[Sera]

It happens everywhere.

Had a call for a unknown individual pounding on this guys door, while waving a firearm.

Got down there, only to find out the caller wanted a officer to arrive quickly because someone scratched his car.

Is that not illegal? Like, couldn't you ticket/cite him for something like that?

[Sera]

The biggest flaw with Zimmerman's story is: If he was underneath Trayvon when they were wrestling and consequently shot him, where's Trayvon's blood on any of his clothing/him?

weird that first witness says he was ON TOP of treyvon. derp. yeah no way is that guy telling the truth.

[Gregorio]

It happens everywhere.

Had a call for a unknown individual pounding on this guys door, while waving a firearm.

Got down there, only to find out the caller wanted a officer to arrive quickly because someone scratched his car.

Yeah it happens a lot down here and people still say they do it because the city counsel told them to. I don't think there have been any deaths down here in relation to that comment, but I'm sure there will be eventually.

[Ambrosia]

The question is what can be done about it? People have the impression that blacks are all criminals because that's what the media pumps out, rap lauds deviant behavior, role models boil down to performers or sports stars, black on black crime is a reality and there aren't enough community game changers to get people to change their attitudes amidst a sea of poverty, desperation and denied opportunity. It'd take a cultural revolution to reverse the current path of the African-American community as a whole and that isn't possible when the race is so divided.

I'd be stunned if a room of black people could even identify who Neil De'grasse Tyson is but if you put up a picture of Michael Vick? Yeah, therein lay the problem.

Plenty of people are out there trying to break the stereotypes but when the community turns on you for trying to make something of yourself it isn't surprising when successful blacks turn around and loathe the very people they should be trying to lift out of the muck. It's a self-destructive cycle.

Ah if only I could +1 this, but there is no +1 button to be found.

[Lordender]

Didn't read this entire thread but this is just stupid:

Jason Giroir is the subject of a new probe by the Public Integrity Bureau after a person who identifies himself as an NOPD employee by that name made online comments about the killing of Trayvon Martin.

"A little over two hours ago I learned about internet comments attributed to Officer Jason Giroir, including in those comments was that he was a member of the NOPD, which have caused me great concern concerning his fitness for duty."

Jason Giroir made several comments on facebook: "Act like a thug. die like a thug."

Jason Giroir’s “thug” comment sparked a strong reaction from another commenter, Eddie Johnson, in the story. Johnson tells Giroir: “How the hell you know how he acted? That boy went to school, talked to his girl friend and it was raining so he had his hood over his head... OH YEA He's Black so he's automatically a Thug huh? Low down racist always show their true colors.”

Jason Giroir responded to Johnson a few hours later: “Eddie come on down to our town with a ‘Hoodie’ and you can join Martin in HELL and talk about your racist stories!”

What a stupid idiot, ah yes, the fail that is the NOPD.

[Jer]

Anyone else here had a broken nose? I did once and know it bled like crazy, like everybody else I've met. Just wonder how the brother's claim of medical records proving the broken nose can hope to do anything. Or did I miss the part where he was given a medical check-up by police? Or did they give him time to change his clothes before going in? We all know it would be impossible for him to go up to his brother and say, 'I'm in trouble, I want you to hit me, as hard as you can.'

It happens everywhere.

Had a call for a unknown individual pounding on this guys door, while waving a firearm.

Got down there, only to find out the caller wanted a officer to arrive quickly because someone scratched his car.

Reminds me of that joke where a neighbor calls 911, says he's watching the house next door get robbed. 911 says there's no one available, he tells them never mind, he just shot them. Within minutes police arrive and catch the burglar in the act. Police say, "I thought you said you shot him". Replies with "I thought you said no one was available."

[Sera]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...#ixzz1qc4ntlnk

George Zimmerman was fired from his job as an under-the-table security guard for “being too aggressive,” a former co-worker told the Daily News.

Zimmerman, at the center of a firestorm for shooting an unarmed black teenager a month ago, worked for two different agencies providing security to illegal house parties between 2001 and 2005, the former co-worker said.

“Usually he was just a cool guy. He liked to drink and hang with the women like the rest of us,” he said. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When the dude snapped, he snapped.”

The source said Zimmerman, who made between $50 and $100 a night, was let go in 2005.

“He had a temper and he became a liability,” the man said. “One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”

The year 2005 was a bad one for Zimmerman: he was arrested for fighting with a cop trying to arrest his friend for underage drinking, and he and his ex-fiancée took out protective orders against each other.

The former co-worker, who is no longer in touch with Zimmerman, said he was shocked to hear what happened Feb. 26 in a gated community in Sanford, Fla.

“He definitely loved being in charge. He loved the power. Still, I could never see him killing someone. Never,” he said.

Zimmerman, who was working as an insurance agent and liked to patrol his neighborhood, killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin after calling 911 to report a suspicious person. The teenager, who was staying with his father, went out to buy a bag of Skittles and an iced tea.

Zimmerman claimed self-defense and was not arrested. He has gone into hiding.

Zimmerman’s father, a former magistrate judge, came forward Wednesday night to defend his son, alleging that Trayvon said “you’re going to die now” before decking Zimmerman and battering his head into the sidewalk.

He discounted newly revealed video shot in the police station that night showing his son free of bruises, blood or bandages.

“I know his nose was broken and his scalp was cut in two different places. They may have cleaned him up, I don’t know,” Robert Zimmerman told the Fox affiliate in Orlando.

Zimmerman lawyer Craig Sonner also played down the video, saying George Zimmerman’s wounds had been cleaned up.

His older brother, Robert Zimmerman Jr., told CNN’s Piers Morgan that his sibling acted in self-defense.

“He prevented his firearm from being taken from him and used against him,” he said. “That’s called saving your life.”

In another twist, the Daily News learned that a key witness whose account has been used to back Zimmerman’s story saw less than has been attributed to him.

Police have said that Austin Brown, 13, who went out to walk his dog near where Trayvon was shot, saw Zimmerman lying in the grass crying for help just before the slaying.

But Austin’s mom, Cheryl Brown, told The News that when cops interviewed her son eight days after Trayvon’s death, he told them he saw only one person lying in the grass and he couldn’t tell who it was because it was too dark.

“He said he couldn’t see the race or anything. He never saw a second person,” Brown said.

“Then they asked him if he saw what the man was wearing. They gave him a multiple-choice question and gave him three colors. He said, ‘I think it was red.’” Zimmerman was wearing a red and black jacket. Trayvon was wearing a gray hoodie.

“Knowing my son, I believe he felt pressured to give the color,” Brown said.

A new witness interviewed on CNN cast doubt on Zimmerman’s story, saying that he looked out his window, glimpsed two men scuffling in the dark, heard “an excruciating kind of yell” and saw what he thought was Zimmerman on top of Trayvon.

“After the larger man got off, then there was a boy, obviously now dead, on the ground, facing down,” the witness told CNN.

“After the shot, one man got up,” the man said. “He was walking towards where I was watching and I could see him a little bit clearer, and see that he was a Hispanic man and he was, you know, he didn’t appear hurt or anything else, he just seemed very worried.”

Meanwhile, filmmaker Spike Lee paid off Elaine and David McClain, the elderly Florida couple who were terrorized when he mistakenly tweeted their address as George Zimmerman’s. Lee called them to apologize and paid them an undisclosed sum for “the disruption to their lives,” his lawyer said.

The McClains, in their 70s, had to flee their home for a hotel due to harassment from people angry that George Zimmerman remains free.

[jmc]

Is that not illegal? Like, couldn't you ticket/cite him for something like that?

Arrestable offense, that always gets tossed out in court or the DA just decides not to charge.

Gotta love my state

[Acturus]

So really, there are three actions taking place in this event.

First, a group or groups of people are digging up as much dirt on the deceased as they can, hoping to turn the court of public opinion firmly in the shooter's favor.
Second, a group or groups of people are digging up as much dirt on the shooter as they can, hoping to turn the court of public opinion firmly in the deceased's favor.
Third, a group or groups of people are digging up as much dirt on the police and the manner in which they handled the situation to show that the system has disadvantaged two people.

Is anyone actually collecting facts, evidence, and making a case of this?

[Sera]

Arrestable offense, that always gets tossed out in court or the DA just decides not to charge.

Gotta love my state

imo arrest anyway, it is embarrassing

[Drex]

So really, there are three actions taking place in this event.

First, a group or groups of people are digging up as much dirt on the deceased as they can, hoping to turn the court of public opinion firmly in the shooter's favor.
Second, a group or groups of people are digging up as much dirt on the shooter as they can, hoping to turn the court of public opinion firmly in the deceased's favor.
Third, a group or groups of people are digging up as much dirt on the police and the manner in which they handled the situation to show that the system has disadvantaged two people.

Is anyone actually collecting facts, evidence, and making a case of this?

yes, but with our legal system it will probably take years for anything to come of it
meanwhile, people will have moved on to the latest fadtivism cause a hundred times and the world will have continued to turn

[Rhinox]

Tell me drex.


Is your apathy toward the trayvon Martin case due to your perceived attack on your race or your values i.e. gun control.

[Lucavi]

Shots potentially fired.

[Chun Liroy]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/03...ix-now-a-fact/

If he doesn't get put away now, there will be riots.

Edit: Jk apparently the article is fairly wrong. Disregard, but gonna leave this here for those interested I suppose.