Teenager shot/killed while Tweek's hero gets off free

[Dimmauk]

we all know it just takes a little rain to get blood off clothes. AMIRITE?

We all know Hispanics wear clothes on their face and they don't believe in gravity. I know when I'm lying down and I have a runny nose,my snot flows directly to the shirt I'm wearing on my face.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

We all know Hispanics wear clothes on their face and they don't believe in gravity. I know when I'm lying down and I have a runny nose,my snot flows directly to the shirt I'm wearing on my face.

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[Dimmauk]

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[kuronosan]

Wasn't it raining?

Ever tried washing blood running down your face off when you have a broken nose? Rain will not magically rinse blood from a shirt. From his face? Sure.

[Dimmauk]

Ever tried washing blood running down your face off when you have a broken nose? Rain will not magically rinse blood from a shirt. From his face? Sure.

I've been punched and kicked in the face and head plenty of times, but I luckily never got a broken nose.

[Rhinox]

We all know Hispanics wear clothes on their face and they don't believe in gravity. I know when I'm lying down and I have a runny nose,my snot flows directly to the shirt I'm wearing on my face.

You're absolutely right dimmy. I'm sure Zimmerman called timeout and trayvon allowed Zimmerman to stuff his nose with something.


He then preceded to say "time in" and shot him.



Pretty sure that's how all life or death brawls go.

[Chun Liroy]

I laughed at the mental image.

[Kuya]

Dimm is currently in two threads that have something to do with black people. Guess what he's doing in both.

[Indeed]

@Perm:

Maybe he was stereotyping the kid based on his skin color, and maybe not. Maybe he really was operating under an assumption he made based on attire. Maybe he saw the kid walking around aimlessly talking on his phone, but couldn't see that up under the hoodie and thought he was on drugs for that reason. My point is that there is nothing solid to point to racism. It's not a sound call to make based on the evidence that's been made public so far. To me, that's a leap that's going to need to be proven with some character witnesses that describe him as being racist, or some history of other racially motivated fights. I'm not willing to assume that all crimes committed against black people happen simply because they are black. Sometimes other people do stupid shit just because they're stupid assholes, and it doesn't have to do with race. I'm just treating that as speculation until something more substantial than our assumptions can back it up.

[Chun Liroy]

"He's black" "These guys always get away" "Fucking coon"

I've gone back and forth on whether or not he was racially motivated, because I've read some neighbor testimony saying he chills with blax or whatever, but after I heard him say "Fucking coon" it was pretty clear the intentions.

[Indeed]

When did he say fucking coon? I missed that one. Also, has it been ruled out that he was intoxicated, if that's even possible thanks to police fuckups. Saying crazy shit when you're drunk is definitely something that happens.

[Chun Liroy]

Supposedly a blood test was taken, I'm unsure of the results.

[kuronosan]

When did he say fucking coon? I missed that one. Also, has it been ruled out that he was intoxicated, if that's even possible thanks to police fuckups. Saying crazy shit when you're drunk is definitely something that happens.

A drunk mind doth yield a sober tongue.

[Milkster]

This is in response to the "Why do minorities feel that only white people are racist?" comments. The feeling is that the oppressed can not oppress the oppressor. So People of Color (PoC) can in no way, shape or form be racist to whites. Since mostly white people have been in control of America for all of it's history, their accusations are not respected mostly because they've brought much of the hatred upon themselves and still do, to this exact minute.

[Greatguardian]

This is in response to the "Why do minorities feel that only white people are racist?" comments. The feeling is that the oppressed can not oppress the oppressor. So People of Color (PoC) can in no way, shape or form be racist to whites. Since mostly white people have been in control of America for all of it's history, their accusations are not respected mostly because they've brought much of the hatred upon themselves and still do, to this exact minute.

You removed your disclaimer asterisk and now I'm wondering if you believe this. I am so confused. Why do you toy with me so?

[Indeed]

A drunk mind doth yield a sober tongue.

Nah. I've bullshitted excessively at times while drinking. Granted, none of it's ever come out racist, but not everything people say while intoxicated necessarily indicates a truth unstated while sober.

I'm not able to watch videos with sound at the moment, but I'll check it out when I can.

[kuronosan]

The idea being, of course, that many people while intoxicated are not in control of their inhibitions and are much more likely to speak their minds (and, in many cases, their personalities are 'enhanced' at the same time). That is actually what the phrase means. George Zimmerman, in this case, is much more likely to exhibit aggressive, (and/or) bigoted behavior, and increasingly more likely to act that aggression out. Does it make him racist? Not really. Everyone harbors some racist, stereotypical trains of thought. The fact that he has a history of reacting emotionally and said quite a few racist things while on the phone with dispatch should tell you where his mind was (or wasn't, if you buy that he was drunk and not in control of what are likely his natural thoughts anyway).

[Dimmauk]

Dimm is currently in two threads that have something to do with black people. Guess what he's doing in both.

I was doing work in the Canadian transvestite thread too. Welcome back btw

[Lucavi]

"He's black" "These guys always get away" "Fucking coon"

I've gone back and forth on whether or not he was racially motivated, because I've read some neighbor testimony saying he chills with blax or whatever, but after I heard him say "Fucking coon" it was pretty clear the intentions.

That and his black friend from middle school admitted that he used racist comments back in the day as well. The guy is as guilty as the day is long. End this farce.

[Ragnus]

I just found out that MA has a Stand Your Ground law on Beacon Hill right now. D=

http://www.wbur.org/2012/03/29/mass-stand-your-ground

BOSTON — Gov. Deval Patrick is vowing to veto a bill that would create a so-called stand your ground law in Massachusetts.

More than two dozen state lawmakers are backing the bill, which mirrors the law at the heart of the debate over the killing of an unarmed black teenager in Florida by a neighborhood watch captain.

State Sen. Stephen Brewer has sponsored the bill for the past five years. The Barre Democrat said his main goal is to protect individuals who defend themselves in public from criminal and civil penalties.

Massachusetts residents already have the right to defend themselves if they’re attacked inside their homes.

“What I was focusing on when I put my name on the bill was the civil part of it,” Brewer said. “I have no interest in the commonwealth resorting to vigilante justice.”

Patrick said he doesn’t see a need for the bill.

“It won’t get past my desk,” Patrick said Thursday on his monthly radio program on WTKK-FM.

Critics of “stand your ground” laws say they encourage the use of deadly force when it could be avoided.

They point to the case of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, who was shot to death after an encounter with 28-year-old George Zimmerman in the central Florida town of Sanford. Zimmerman told police he was attacked by Martin, who was not armed, and shot him in self-defense. Zimmerman has not been arrested.

Gun control activist John Rosenthal, founder of Stop Handgun Violence, said the law in Florida and similar laws in other states encourage a “shoot first and ask questions later” mentality.

“Stand your ground is an excuse to kill anyone you don’t like and not be held responsible,” he said. “It is horrific public policy. It is racist based public policy.”

Supporters say there’s another side to the story.

They point to an incident in 2009, when an off-duty security guard fatally shot a psychiatric patient as the patient stabbed a doctor in Boston.

Suffolk County District Attorney Daniel Conley concluded that Paul Langone “acted in self-defense and the defense of Dr. Astrid Desrosiers” when he fired at 37-year-old Jay Carciero and that Desrosiers “would undoubtedly have died” if Langone had not intervened.

But state Rep. Daniel Winslow said Brewer’s bill is needed to protect individuals like Langone from a possible wrongful-death civil lawsuit even if no criminal charges are brought.

“If you lawfully used deadly force then you should not be able to be sued for it,” said the Norfolk Republican, one of 27 lawmakers sponsoring the bill. Winslow, a former district court judge, said current Massachusetts law requires an individual to try to retreat, if they do so safely, if they are attacked.

But Conley and Attorney General Martha Coakley say examples like the shooting involving Langone show the state’s existing laws governing self-defense are working.

“I think we have pretty strong laws here in Massachusetts around self-defense,” Coakley said.

Rep. Byron Rushing, another critic of “stand your ground” laws, said the bill’s language is too fuzzy.

“When you are out on the street, it’s very hard to define when someone is in your personal space and what threatening means,” said Rushing, D-Boston.

Brewer said he filed the bill on behalf of the Gun Owners Action League.

Jim Wallace, the group’s executive director, said there’s no real recognition in state law of an individual’s right to defend himself outside their home.

“All we’re looking for is that if you are put into a situation that is untenable, where you have no other option, that you have the right to defend yourself,” he said.

The bill would allow an individual to use deadly force in a public area “if he or she acted in the reasonable belief that an assailant was about to inflict great bodily injury or death upon themselves or upon another person.”

The bill also states that “there shall be no duty on a person to retreat from any place that they have a right to be” and “no person who has committed an act of lawful defense … shall be held liable in an action for damages for death or injuries to an assailant.”

The bill is currently before the Joint Committee on the Judiciary but isn’t expected to pass.

“I don’t have any false hope that it will emerge,” Brewer said.

Luckily it looks like it won't pass and, even if it does, would be veto'd anyway.