Teenager shot/killed while Tweek's hero gets off free

[shidobu]

I honestly don't think Zimmerman is a murderer. He's an idiot, and a guilty one at that, but hardly a murderer. His irresponsible choices resulted in the killing of another human being. He should face the consequences for his actions.

drunk drivers that accidentally kill people are gonna get a heavier sentence than zimmerman. which is fucked cuz zimmerman knowingly put himself in a situation that could escalate. Really hope he doesn't walk honestly. Not that i wanna see him punished. More like i don't wanna see what happens if he does. I seriously don't wanna wake up to a bunch of riots in houston/Detriot/Atlanta over this bullshit. Even worst i don't wanna feel like i have to watch over my fucking shoulder for every white person in texas looking to "hang some niggers".

[Day]

The state doesn't have to prove he wasn't scared for his life, he has to prove a reasonable person would be.

Ok. I think most people would be if you believe his story.

The evidence leads me to believe his story, that's all I'm saying. You disagree, rock on.

[Tyche]

Also, Zimmerman was/is not neighborhood watch. I seen Day throw that out earlier and it's completely false. Zimmerman is just some dude who felt the need to play superhero for his community.

[Plow]

Yeah, absolutely everything points to a douchebag with a gun that got himself in over his head and killed an innocent kid to get out of it.


I mean, his claim of Trayvon starting it is that Trayvon asked him if he had a problem, and he said no, at which point he claims Trayvon said "you do now."


Why would he say no? What's going through your mind to chase someone down because you have a problem with them being there, and then acting like nothing's going on when you confront them?


hint: it's being a punk bitch that's just looking for a chance to shoot him some of those "assholes that always get away, fucking punks"

[Ksandra]

Also, Zimmerman was/is not neighborhood watch. I seen Day throw that out earlier and it's completely false. Zimmerman is just some dude who felt the need to play superhero for his community.

To be fair, Day's wording didn't sound like he brushed it off, so much as saying that's what zimmerman felt. Like, realistically, he was not part of the watch, but he wanted to be and acted like he was.


Personally, I think he's at fault as I will always think Casey Anthony and O.J. was at fault. But I agree with others that I have a strong feeling the guy is gonna get off. As well, I am willing to admit that the guy could really be innocent (highly doubtful imo, but the possibility is there)

[Eurell]

I mean, his claim of Trayvon starting it is that Trayvon asked him if he had a problem, and he said no, at which point he claims Trayvon said "you do now."

I love the shit he says that Trayvon said. Is he still going with the story that after he shot trayvon, he said, "You got me" ?

Obviously during those 2-3 minutes of Zimmerman trying to catch up to him, Trayvon was going over his lines.

[Plow]

Yeap, my favorite is how he was getting his ass beat so bad he was afraid for his life, Trayvon saw the gun and said "you're going to die tonight," at which point Zimmerman became the flash and this dude that was on top of him ground and pounding with complete control couldn't stop him from instantly grabbing his gun and getting it inches from his chest for a one shot kill.

[Acevalefor]

Yeap, my favorite is how he was getting his ass beat so bad he was afraid for his life, Trayvon saw the gun and said "you're going to die tonight," at which point Zimmerman became the flash and this dude that was on top of him ground and pounding with complete control couldn't stop him from instantly grabbing his gun and getting it inches from his chest for a one shot kill.

Oh my god. Sentence structure and diction are necessary. Try reading what you wrote before you post it. Then when you are done reading it, edit that shit.

[Xajii]

Oh my god. Sentence structure and diction are necessary. Try reading what you wrote before you post it. Then when you are done reading it, edit that shit.

maybe you just need to learn to read informal writing

[Plow]

Oh my god. Sentence structure and diction are necessary. Try reading what you wrote before you post it. Then when you are done reading it, edit that shit.

That was actually pretty damn close to entirely proper, just a little lax and long. I was 36ing english on my ACT's my sophomore year of high school, I may occasionally write carelessly but I'm not the person you want to go into semantic English arguments with.

You left a comma out of your final sentence, and "Oh my god" is an exclamation, else it's not a complete sentence.

[Xajii]

and yeah, the made up movie quotes are hilarious. Trayvon Martin to be played by Samuel L Jackson in George Zimmerman's interpretation of his murder

[Xajii]

I was 36ing english on my ACT's my sophomore year of high school.

fucking lol, you're actually making decent points in this thread but come on dude

[archibaldcrane]

Mensa card time

[Plow]

fucking lol, you're actually making decent points in this thread but come on dude

What? I'm actually really, really, really good with reading comprehension, and the one area I actually had great teaching for almost my entire life was language/writing. (almost being the key word there, my kindergarten teacher actually complained to my parents because she thought it was a problem that I wanted to read books during playtime)

That's why if I can't figure out what the hell someone is saying, I'm generally 99.9999% certain it's retarded (and that they probably don't even know what they're saying, either). That's also part of why people bitch about my usage of actual sourced information and say shit about wiki/google: I'm able to figure out precise search phrasing, and once I find info I understand what I'm reading and turn it into supporting argument a lot more easily than most people.

[Seiji Okita]

Also, Zimmerman was/is not neighborhood watch. I seen Day throw that out earlier and it's completely false. Zimmerman is just some dude who felt the need to play superhero for his community.

This is completely wrong, he was in fact the neighborhood watch captain, so much to say that it was an -official- position coordinated with the police department. It is also a known fact that the complex where this happened had been plagued with crime.

There is just so much wrong in the thread. Seriously, are you telling me that if you were driving through your gated community on a rainy night, and you saw someone who you didn't recognize strolling through the rain by the houses and you called the cops to report a suspicious person, and while on the phone with non-emergency this guy looked at you sitting in your car on the phone, starts walking toward you then without reason(still sitting in the car on the phone at this point) he takes off running away from you and he runs in a direction the takes him directly to the back yards of the town homes, at this point you don't have the justification to get out of your car while on the phone with the police and look behind the houses to make sure someone isn't getting their shit taken? All speculative but all this "he fucking chased this kid down with a gun" is just as speculative

You can't sit here and say that this man Zimmerman, had some random super hero moment and decided to, for no reason at all, pursue this kid with the intent of a violent confrontation. Watching the trial the facts are not there.

We have the tape, which is much more than just the two expletives people keep throwing around as if you can convict someone for cussing.

We have the defenses story, that Zimmerman did leave his vehicle, he moved toward the T intersection in the general direction that Martin had fled. He did not have sight of Martin but was looking for a street address and finishing his conversation with non-emergency. He hung up the phone and began heading back to his car and was accosted. This is the story that has to be disproved, and it hasn't been in the least. Zimmerman had multiple wounds all around his head and Martin has only the gunshot wound and minor wounds to the left hand. The final key to the defenses story is that while Martin was on top of Zimmerman he saw and went for Zimmerman's gun saying 'your going to die' and Zimmerman pulled it and shot him in the chest.

The only testimony or evidence that can coincide with the timeline is Rachel Jeantel who was on the phone with Martin, she testified that Martin saw Zimmerman sitting in his car. He referred to him with a few racial slurs/expletives then told her he was running from him. After a short time he tells her he's stopping and she asks "Why not run to your dads house".
he says something along the lines of "I'm right near his house" then she tells the jury she hears Martin say to Zimmerman "Why are you following me?"

Are there inconsistencies? Yes, does every line add up? no, but there is no hard evidence to disprove Zimmerman's story(let alone beyond a reasonable doubt) and even in Jeantel's own testimony it was Martin who first engages Zimmerman verbally.

When i first heard this case i thought Zimmerman was a punk bitch, after watching the actual proceedings, and keeping an open mind. I have found out he was actually a well liked guy in his community. Who was going to school to be a judge like his father was. This case is a damn tragedy in so many ways.

It is a shame Trayvon Martin died, it's a shame Zimmerman's life as he knew it is ruined. Life is a bitch, but we all know this. You have to accept the facts though that as sad as it may be, Trayvon Martin may have made bad decisions. You don't run from people in your gated community for no reason, and if your afraid you don't engage them verbally when you for some reason ran from them to begin with.

[Seraph]

That's why if I can't figure out what the hell someone is saying, I'm generally 99.9999% certain it's retarded (and that they probably don't even know what they're saying, either).

Looks like someone took the masturbation joke in the abortion thread a little too seriously.

[archibaldcrane]

So trayvon ran, zimmy followed him, zimmy had a gun, but zimmy "didn't chase him down with a gun"?

Um what?

[Plow]

Spoiler: show

[Plow]

I'm curious how much of an opinion we'll get from the jury, I want to see what they think about the pot shit.


For anyone that doesn't know, small amounts of pot were found in trayvon's system, not sure if it was enough to say he likely was smoking that day, but either way the defense has been granted permission to present it and argue that it could have made him start the fight unreasonably.


Because we all how people get all doped up on weed and turn all violent.

[Chun Liroy]

You don't run from a guy in a car obviously stalking you in a gated community that needs a neighborhood watch? Sounds pretty fucking logical to me.

Turning back around, idk, dumb blax trying to be tough for his GF or close enough to his house where he can flee there if something goes wrong? Idk.