Mists of Pandaria Beta

[The Stig]

What?

Why...

Why??

EDIT: I also expect gold circulation to spike up due to AOE looting. And seeing how an ilvl 460~ item has nearly 100% (double) more primary stat I'd expect some raids to be easily farmable.

EDIT2: Unless of course I'm mistakened with my maths and that the level 90 point will make us far weaker so we need to compensate with a large stat boss to make up for it

[Odon]

Doubt it, I can already trio Al'akir so I don't see why those raids won't be farmable come the first heroic set of raid gear. Hell the first heroic 2h sword has 20k damage top end.

[Meresgi]

LOL @ THE BLACK MARKET AND BUYING RARE MOUNTS/T3

FUCK THIS GAME LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Am I missing something with this? I mean I completely misunderstood the whole LFR mechanics a month ago, but this seems pretty cut and dry.

[Mortilox]

Not really sure what to say about it. Did not see it coming at all. Although.. I sort of look forward to it in a "omg I can finally obtain x mount using my saved gold instead of using 2 hours each week for a miniscule chance to obtain it" way. I've always wanted Invincible for my DK. But then of course there's going to be plenty of people out there who did get Invincible during Wrath and spit at the idea of being able to buy it. That it should remain a prestige item for those who conquered the LK at his highest difficulty.

I don't know what to say, I'm kinda torn.

As for T3 though I honestly don't give a fuck about it.

[Inactive]

The rarity is what makes the mounts so cool imo. Seeing every other person with ashes kind of kills that

[Mortilox]

The rarity is what makes the mounts so cool imo. Seeing every other person with ashes kind of kills that

How many more of these rare mounts would it take for them to reach a "meh, that's common" status? On my realm I barely ever see the lich king rare mounts, such as Invincible/Mimiron's head. Very often people will reserve it if they run ICC25 and even those who don't secretly know they will ninja it if it does drop. As long as the auction house isn't fully stocked 24/7 with these rare mounts I don't think there'll be any servere impact on the rarity. Sort of like the Kalu'ak fishing derby. Each week, someone gets to win.

But I agree that if everyone's going to be able to buy them for 10k each with an unlimited supply shit will get lame very fucking quickly

[SamanosukeShiva]

It's obviously not gonna be unlimited supply, it already says different items per server, I can only assume that once the item is sold it's gonna change to something else, not to mention the bidding war will most likely to make the price shot up to like 100-200k gold.

[Meresgi]

It's obviously not gonna be unlimited supply, it already says different items per server, I can only assume that once the item is sold it's gonna change to something else, not to mention the bidding war will most likely to make the price shot up to like 100-200k gold.

Different items per server seems like a way to get people to blow real life cash on transferring to servers where there are items they want. What's the max amount of gold you can take on a transfer?

I would rather they up the drop chance of mounts like LK/Mim Hardmode's to 5% and that be that then do this. This will also create a very huge increase in gold buying as people will gladly pay $40-$60 in real life cash to get some more gold to buy that mount they have always wanted. Which will inflate the economy even more.

[Aravil]

Except as soon as you buy that mount it's going to remove the 100-200k. This is definitely an attempt at Blizz to create a long(short?)-term gold sink to help deflate the economy. Problem is, those with a ton of gold are going to get the four or five mounts they want and still be fucking rich. And/or, we'll see them buying the mount for hundreds of thousands of gold and then reselling them at a markup price.

[Meresgi]

Yeah it will take it out of the economy, but in order to "compete" with other people, most are going to turn to gold farmers to get that upperhand, which will then inflate the prices of all raw materials and other items that gold farmers rely on to make profit.

I wonder if they have any counter to this they havn't spoken about yet so as not to alert the "enemy"

[Katlan]

wow. That looks awesome

It's only one skin per race... so its really the exact same thing as the original models now with armor. Since it doesn't change at all, i kinda prefer the no armor look

[aurik]

Its just a way to sink massive amount of money out of the game, without adversely impacting the game. I don't really see the problem with it.

Especially since that with account-wide mounts and the ability to solo/duo/trio most of the old content that drops it, you can get those mounts anyway with a medium level of effort and dedication. Seriously, you'll be able to kill KaelThas for ashes 5+ times every week, think that mount will still be at all rare?

[Boyiee]

I don't think the black market thing is a bad idea.

There is way too much gold out in the economy, I don't know too many people with less than 20, 30, 40, or even 70k gold. There needs to be a massive gold sink, and bidding on something like this could take 100k gold away or more at a time. Plus, you complain about the rarity of mounts - Level 85's are soloing Kael and several other mount dropping bosses. People are doing some instances on 5+ alts a week. Plus there is going to be account-wide mounts. The amount of those mounts in the world has already increased tenfold. Just think about how easy it will be at 90 with the gear changes. Less people are going to be able to do bigger things. Mimirons head and Invincible are already going to be more common, and ashes will be a joke.

The mounts are no longer really rare anymore, and they are going to be even less rare regardless of the black market. Better to vendor this gold than to have it just trade hands.

[Meresgi]

Seriously, you'll be able to kill KaelThas for ashes 5+ times every week, think that mount will still be at all rare?

My upwards of 800 UD Strat runs w/o a charger say yes..../wrists

Seriously, fuck that mount.

[Guitarman]

It depends on what shows up on the AH. If unattainables like the zulian tiger pop up, ill be pissed. call it "special snowflake" syndrome if you want, but I did the legwork to get that drop before it was axed, I don't need some gold buying twat to have it. It cheapens it. As much as I want it, I would fully understand the outrage if something hard to snag like Invincible showed up.

[Boyiee]

It depends on what shows up on the AH. If unattainables like the zulian tiger pop up, ill be pissed. call it "special snowflake" syndrome if you want, but I did the legwork to get that drop before it was axed, I don't need some gold buying twat to have it. It cheapens it. As much as I want it, I would fully understand the outrage if something hard to snag like Invincible showed up.

And some of us did the same legwork if not much, much more and never saw it drop. It would be nice to finally have a chance at shit like that that we've been trying for probably since before you started even playing.

[Katlan]

I wonder if Kael will be solo/duo-able in MoP (by most classes). I still can't solo him as a bear in Cata, he special move still rapes faces

[aurik]

Pretty sure yes. A few classes can already solo kael at 85; I'm sure once we're all at 500k hp it will be pretty straightforward to solo him.

[Meresgi]

Yeah, the only major issue is the disorient + flame strike shit, and i'm sure with some MoP heroic gear pushing him into the next phase will be easy as hell.

And some of us did the same legwork if not much, much more and never saw it drop. It would be nice to finally have a chance at shit like that that we've been trying for probably since before you started even playing.

I agree but I would still rather see the drop rates boosted instead of just selling the shit, that way snowflakes can still have their syndrome. I think a boost to 5% drop chance would be more then fine to make it still hard to obtain but not fucking impossible feeling.

I farmed ICC25 for 6 months straight for the reigns while getting shards for myself and a guildie and never saw them drop, but we did Uld25 for 2 months for someone's Val quest and saw mim's head drop once.

[fantasticdan]

I think it went from severely overpowered because of the DH glyph to severely underpowered and now back at severely overpowered again or something ridiculous like that.

It was severely overpowered when it was first implemented because it was bugged/broken. It wasn't just retaining the damage bonus from meta (which it shouldn't have at all), it was doubling it, and was getting an absurd amount of extra -DT% from something. Since that was fixed, it's been underpowered compared to a real tank spec, and nerfed in nearly every build anyway, to the point of being below useless. The way it is now, you can't generate adequate fury to really do anything, lose damage bonus from meta, and close to zero -DT%(well the DT- has been bugged and hasn't worked for weeks anyway, but now it's official). There's really no point to it except gaining access to fury ward, which is significantly worse than ice barrier... A moonkin or an spriest has far better mitigation.

It depends on what shows up on the AH. If unattainables like the zulian tiger pop up, ill be pissed. call it "special snowflake" syndrome if you want, but I did the legwork to get that drop before it was axed, I don't need some gold buying twat to have it.

And I did the legwork to get the raptor dozens of times except.. I didn't get it.

As for kael, all classes can solo it as it is at 85, it will just be faster at 90.