Mists of Pandaria Beta

[Plow]

yeah, and it's not even a cool mount... crazy if people actually buy that with no artbook or anything at all outside the game

the pet is prty cute tho >.>

[Mortilox]

I don't get it, that mount looks like garbage to me and everyone who preorders the deluxe will have it. Simply another repeat of the Heart of the Aspects.

OMG it's so cool I must spend my moneys on it! *buys mount* *logs into wow to see another 40 people riding it in SW* > mount coolness rubs off after no more than 2-3 weeks, people go back to genuine cool mounts.

Blizzard winds up significantly richer thanks to a reskinned pixel mount.

[Correction]

The artbooks are always great with the retail CEs. I reckon the digital CE will fill the needs for those who just can't help but buy everything at the blizzard pet store.

[Meresgi]

Already have two people who have bought the CE in my guild and said something along the lines of "No idea why I even bought it, the mount and pet are stupid".....people are bad with money.

Also release is announced and yet people are still paying 100k or more to my guild to be run through Heroic Dragon Soul and get a weapon off last boss. Best part is I have encountered a few of these people in RBGs and arena and they are god awful, guess that heroic Gurthtalak doesn't do shit for you.

[BadKarma]

Only reason im getting DDE is to sell the Pet and Mount on ebay a year from now.

[Tomino]

To Beta people: what would you pick between a Retridin and a Frost DK come MoP?

[Meresgi]

To Beta people: what would you pick between a Retridin and a Frost DK come MoP?

I would say Retridin. Don't go DK, way too much history of being broken, over nerfed and just plain fucked in the ass. Especially with things like the whole auto claw right now where Ghostcrawler doesn't believe DK's will need to bind claw to attacks to make the ghoul preform well, instead of just getting rid of the energy cost on leap/gnaw like they should. No nerves of cold steel from what I have seen for frost in MoP so that makes 2h the way to go I believe, which kind of sucks.

As a pally you have 3 open specs to you as well, as a DK you only have 2 lackluster dps specs and 1 tank spec that isn't looking very good if Mionelol and others are to be taken at their word.

[Tomino]

Currently, my problem with Retribution is how dull it feels to play it. On the other hand, Frost plays smooth and is very enjoyable in terms of skills available.

I have read a few beta topics on Retridins and it *seems* their playstyle has become smoother, better. More HP generation, HP stacking to 5, better rotation.
DK Frost spec seems either un-touched or made worst... what a shame.

[Meresgi]

I would say Frost isn't very "smooth", it's exciting at times and annoying as fuck at others just due to all the RNG bullshit you have to put up with. Especially when you get 4 piece DS gear and you get a new helping of RNG on top of some RNG for your RNG.

There are times when I have so many resources it's terrible trying to put out what I can because you will never get it all out without overlapping, then you reach areas where you literally are just auto attacking because you have just too little RP for a frost strike and you are waiting on all your runes to come off CD because RE didn't proc.

I play Masterfrost though, so that may factor into it, as I have to game my UH rune and cycle a lot of shit around fast during burst.

[BadKarma]

Another new pet, Starcraft II HOTS CE

http://critcraft.blogspot.com/2012/0...ollectors.html

[Odon]

Only reason im getting DDE is to sell the Pet and Mount on ebay a year from now.

How do you plan on doing that? They get added when you purchase the game, you don't get anything else to sell.

[BadKarma]

How do you plan on doing that? They get added when you purchase the game, you don't get anything else to sell.

Oh Its not a code like every other time?

[Plow]

Currently, my problem with Retribution is how dull it feels to play it. On the other hand, Frost plays smooth and is very enjoyable in terms of skills available.

I have read a few beta topics on Retridins and it *seems* their playstyle has become smoother, better. More HP generation, HP stacking to 5, better rotation.
DK Frost spec seems either un-touched or made worst... what a shame.

the major changes to frost are:
no more dual wielding
unholy presence is 10%, frost presence is just basically unlimited rp
get runic corruption, lose blood tap

getting RC basically makes it petless unholy... oblit and frost strike as much as you possibly can and keep diseases up, howling when you get a proc

that's seriously the extent of our rotation now

[Meresgi]

No more DWing is gonna suck fucking balls come 5.0 patch, glad I have a fucking Gurth for when that hits.

Oh Its not a code like every other time?

Always thought it was bound to the account? only CE ive ever gotten was WoTLK, and I dont have that account anymore so no clue.

that's seriously the extent of our rotation now

good ol frost, that's been our rotation for like this entire expansion, thanks Blizzard!

[Plow]

No more DWing is gonna suck fucking balls come 5.0 patch, glad I have a fucking Gurth for when that hits.



Always thought it was bound to the account? only CE ive ever gotten was WoTLK, and I dont have that account anymore so no clue.



good ol frost, that's been our rotation for like this entire expansion, thanks Blizzard!

no... our rotation now involves using your runes before you frost strike, using hb intelligently even pre-masterfrost when the runes worked out that way, etc...

that's all gone. RC=frost strike whenever the fuck you want, just try to keep *some* runes refreshing

[Odon]

Oh Its not a code like every other time?

CE Stuff was always bound to the key you use to upgrade the account, never got any codes for that shit except I think BC got a random loot card?

[Meresgi]

no... our rotation now involves using your runes before you frost strike, using hb intelligently even pre-masterfrost when the runes worked out that way, etc...

that's all gone. RC=frost strike whenever the fuck you want, just try to keep *some* runes refreshing

Oh I misread your shit. I thought people were talking about RE or BT being better then RC though just due to how much haste you need to make RC win out from the sped up runes.

[Clemz]

Am I missing a change where they're removing dual wielding from Death Knights, or is it just way behind two hand at the moment that it's not worth using?

[Plow]

It's complicated, but I don't see re keeping up unless there's just a ton of multi-target shit where you can forget your uh runes.

It's also, amusingly enough, currently coming out best to swap to dual wield for your frost strike dumping and back to 2 hand for oblit, which obviously takes re pretty much completely out of the running.

Am I missing a change where they're removing dual wielding from Death Knights, or is it just way behind two hand at the moment that it's not worth using?

It's just not even remotely close. Long story short there's 2 main factors:
Our new execute uses weapon damage, and isn't affected by tot.
tot vs mofw is just frost strike vs oblit now, and oblit wins

[Odon]

It's complicated, but I don't see re keeping up unless there's just a ton of multi-target shit where you can forget your uh runes.

It's also, amusingly enough, currently coming out best to swap to dual wield for your frost strike dumping and back to 2 hand for oblit, which obviously takes re pretty much completely out of the running.



It's just not even remotely close. Long story short there's 2 main factors:
Our new execute uses weapon damage, and isn't affected by tot.
tot vs mofw is just frost strike vs oblit now, and oblit wins

I thought weapon twisting was fixed?