Mists of Pandaria Beta

[Mortilox]

Can someone fill me in on all gold sink items in MoP? I'm trying to be careful with my mountain of gold, but I really want a Tabard of the Lightbringer(I cba to organise 24 idiots for 6+ weeks). I know there's a new mammoth thing coming out which is 120k. What else? Any cool morphing items, how much are the jc mounts? Anything at all I may need to burn gold on.

[retice]

Can someone fill me in on all gold sink items in MoP? I'm trying to be careful with my mountain of gold, but I really want a Tabard of the Lightbringer(I cba to organise 24 idiots for 6+ weeks). I know there's a new mammoth thing coming out which is 120k. What else? Any cool morphing items, how much are the jc mounts? Anything at all I may need to burn gold on.

The Black Market AH is only other thing I believe

[Boyiee]

I detest 10mans, I hate having to reach for certain raid buffs.

Guilds trying to decide what we're all gonna play since we've got a month left. We've got 8 people out of our old roster but trying to pick the classes we're all gonna be now.

So far, it looks pretty shitty lol.

DK+War Tanks
Priest+Druid(or sham) Heals
Hunter+Mage DPS.

Then there is me and my friend. He can either tank on DK, making the current DK go Spriest, or he can play Paladin heals/dps, or he could play Rogue. Meanwhile I'm stuck in the DPS spot as either Warrior, Lock, DK, or Paladin.

I really hate how the spell buffs/debuffs are setup. Needing that 8% spell damage from lock/rogue and needing that spell haste from boom/spriest/sham. Wish they expanded more.

My thing is I played rogue/lock through all of cata, and warrior for most of wrath. Not really sure if I want to mix it up or help the raid more lol.

[Plow]

does unholy not give the spelldmg buff in panda? I hadn't even looked

I mean, I get where you're coming from completely, but if you're literally missing half the classes in the game, I'm not sure what you're hoping for heh.

Honestly, though, I'm not sure how you're seeing a base of dk+war tank, priest+resto heals, and mage+hunter deeps as a bad thing. I think a lot of groups would kill to have that core to work around.

[Clemz]

Ebon Plaguebring has been redesigned to bring 4% increased physical damage, instead of 8% spell damage. Didn't know that, shitty.

[SamanosukeShiva]

I detest 10mans, I hate having to reach for certain raid buffs.

Guilds trying to decide what we're all gonna play since we've got a month left. We've got 8 people out of our old roster but trying to pick the classes we're all gonna be now.

So far, it looks pretty shitty lol.

DK+War Tanks
Priest+Druid(or sham) Heals
Hunter+Mage DPS.

Then there is me and my friend. He can either tank on DK, making the current DK go Spriest, or he can play Paladin heals/dps, or he could play Rogue. Meanwhile I'm stuck in the DPS spot as either Warrior, Lock, DK, or Paladin.

I really hate how the spell buffs/debuffs are setup. Needing that 8% spell damage from lock/rogue and needing that spell haste from boom/spriest/sham. Wish they expanded more.

My thing is I played rogue/lock through all of cata, and warrior for most of wrath. Not really sure if I want to mix it up or help the raid more lol.

never go 2 shield tanks on 10 man raiding especially in beginning stage of progression, harder to gear up and some bosses prefer avoidance tanking rather than block tanking. Hunter also have 8%(it's now 5% in MoP) spell damage pet IIRC, if your hunter dont mind using them.

[Boyiee]

it looks like 2-3 of our old core members might be coming back, which means Our death knight tank can go spriest and well have a druid tank instead. My friend can go rogue and I'll play either mage or ret pal, giving us a much better raid buff setup.

Looking more like:
Tanks: Dk Druid
Heals: Priest Druid Shaman
Dps: Hunter Rogue Spriest and me Ret or Mage.

One other person might also come back who can play ret or mage as well, and having both is optimal. So now I just gotta decide if I want to do mage or ret pal. Come on simcraft numbers! The frost PvP nerfs do worry me.

[BaneTheBrawler]

That was one of the better changes they made to Hunter. We don't have a niche anymore, so they gave us pretty much every raid buff. If your hunter says he can't bring one, he just needs to get off his ass and tame the right pet. It might require a spec change, but we can do every raid buff (pretty sure).

[Plow]

Yeah, you can, and I think the only big one that requires a spec is heroism.

I'm finally going to make a new alt in panda since repair mount will be account wide, prob gonna do a panda hunter. Pure with utility = hawtness.

[Boyiee]

Yeah after looking over the current buff/debuff list, we should be fine. Also there was never a chance of having two shield tanks, it was either Dk war or Dk druid. I'm a little worried about having a priest healer instead of a paladin though, maybe I can convince my sister to swap to pally.

In the end it comes down to: do I want to play mage or ret pal. Ret looks middle of the pack right now, but with the second role option it's a tough call. Especially since I arena/rbg 5-6 days a week and only raid 2.

[Meresgi]

Yeah after looking over the current buff/debuff list, we should be fine. Also there was never a chance of having two shield tanks, it was either Dk war or Dk druid. I'm a little worried about having a priest healer instead of a paladin though, maybe I can convince my sister to swap to pally.

In the end it comes down to: do I want to play mage or ret pal. Ret looks middle of the pack right now, but with the second role option it's a tough call. Especially since I arena/rbg 5-6 days a week and only raid 2.

If you arena/rbg a lot I would go mage, pallies always bounce around either being great at a roll or 2, or being complete and utter shit in pvp. Mages in general have always been top due to their CC and the comps they can run.

Also I like how Blizzard and others have talked about DK Tier 90 talents not being useless as all fuck in pve setting. It reminds me of how Blizzard stated that Dark Simulcrum would be this tool we could use in raids and pve a lot so it wasn't just a pvp talent....and the only fucking boss we can use it on is Hagara...

[Plow]

Yeah after looking over the current buff/debuff list, we should be fine. Also there was never a chance of having two shield tanks, it was either Dk war or Dk druid. I'm a little worried about having a priest healer instead of a paladin though, maybe I can convince my sister to swap to pally.

In the end it comes down to: do I want to play mage or ret pal. Ret looks middle of the pack right now, but with the second role option it's a tough call. Especially since I arena/rbg 5-6 days a week and only raid 2.

If they're going to be a truly dedicated healer, honestly a priest that can competently swap between holy, normal disc, and smite disc is just utterly invaluable.

[Boyiee]

I've just seen that in beta priests are a bit behind the other healers but that is/was before normalization.

[Tomino]

Any feedback on the Dead Siphon talent? On paper, it looks so great for soloing stuff, so I was wondering what its catch is...

[Mortilox]

I've just seen that in beta priests are a bit behind the other healers but that is/was before normalization.

still gonna be my first 90 healer in mop, priest is superior to all else imo

[BadKarma]

Most important thing in MoP is DAT MASTERY BUFF HNGHHHHH

[Sonomaa]

hunters still look good, Ill be fine.
my mage will surely be good as well because blizzard loves mages yay
just gonna run dungeons on my other characters until pandas dorps

[SamanosukeShiva]

latest sims, patchwerk fight
http://0.chart.apis.google.com/chart...chts=dddddd,18

[Correction]

Ferals aren't modeled?

[Guitarman]

Woo glad i quit. That frost 1h looks ugly.