Random Question Thread XXVI: The Rise and Fall of the RQT

[Mojo]

In regards to Savant's gear, do you need to have the piece equipped when activating the JA, or while using the spell?

[Yugl]

When using the spell.

[ccl]

I don't mind making a billion gear sets, I like 1% increases, but I don't like the best SAM body because of the looks.....

Capped ACC
Unkai/Brego
Set 1
388
109.763

3.42
2533

4156
845

295.179


Byrnie/Ogier
Set 2
388
110.662

3.45
2544

4180
845

296.711


.5% increase for -2 inventory

it has 4-12 dps increase depending on the target, that's more than 0.5% I can post my set number if you want. And, inv isn't an issue now mog porter/ mulable rare/ex.


Number using motenten spreadsheet

fodder with food/zerk/march/chaos roll or embrava.(I'll just consider capped haste for event I use embrava for now)

unkai/brego = 766.570
Ogier's/porthos = 778.364

a lil over 1.5% increase.

Qilin
unkai brego = 564.623
ogier/porthos = 569.777

about 1% increase.

Yes , 1% and 1.5% increase is worth 2 inv slot for me, and how is unkai body +2 the best sam body if it lose on those set/event ? => totally confused.

Can porter unkai body+2 when you know you'll do easy stuff like nyzle/dyna/lower tier VW. Unless this isn't the right way to do dps ? I could totally be missing something

Couldn't compare embrava set for adl/nyzle accounting 1 regain tick, cause idk what would be optimal switch aside pole grip for the unkai/brego would still have to look into it.

Might have done a mistake somewhere so if something seems way off, feel free to ask.

[Taint]

it has 4-12 dps increase depending on the target, that's more than 0.5% I can post my set number if you want. And, inv isn't an issue now mog porter/ mulable rare/ex.

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Motenten's sheet is messed up at capped haste. Its showing min delay at 87.4 but is figuring gear haste funny.

If you set min delay to 87.4 on both sets, the Unkai body set comes out slightly ahead.

43%
12%
25%
80%
89.2
87.4
89.2
150.811

It should be

43%
12%
25%
80%
87.5
87.4
87.5 (must be rounding)
153.754

[Nightfyre]

Motenten's sheet is messed up at capped haste. Its showing min delay at 87.4 but is figuring gear haste funny.

No, it's correct. You're neglecting the hidden decimal values, which are very relevant here given FFXI's /1024 haste calculations.

[Taint]

No, it's correct. You're neglecting the hidden decimal values, which are very relevant here given FFXI's /1024 haste calculations.

Isn't capped, capped?

43.333% Magic Haste
12.4% JA (25/1024)
25% Stated Gear

89.2/437 = 79.6% Haste

The only unknown is the gears exact values but backing into it buts the 25% (stated) at 23.867 which seems really low even with rounding and decimals

So gear haste with 25% stated has to be

[Nightfyre]

12.4% JA (25/1024)

125/1024=12.2070312%

25% Stated Gear

Exact amount depends on how many 6%+ items you're using, but should be 252/1024 with both the Zelus/Brego/Bullwhip/Unkai+2/Usukane and the Phorcys/Brego/Bullwhip/Unkai+2/Ace's setup. 252/1024=24.609375%, which is what my copy lists. Do you have magic haste at 448/1024?

[Taint]

125/1024=12.2070312%


Exact amount depends on how many 6%+ items you're using, but should be 252/1024 with both the Zelus/Brego/Bullwhip/Unkai+2/Usukane and the Phorcys/Brego/Bullwhip/Unkai+2/Ace's setup. 252/1024=24.609375%, which is what my copy lists. Do you have magic haste at 448/1024?

Yep was the magic haste. Thanks for the input.

Capped ACC, uncapped haste puts the Byrnie set slightly ahead.

Capped ACC and Haste put the Unkai+2 set slightly ahead.

If the ACC from Unkai+2 increases your hit rate by 2% or more it is always better.

[Churchill]

Gearing SAM for trash mobs is sort of a waste anyway, it's not a DPS monster and situations you're talking about (Embrava, 2xMarch, etc) heavily favor other jobs who hit harder and utilize better WS's. When every job's TP/WS split starts reaching what a SAM's would be, it's not good for the SAM. So as far as the Byrnie or Unkai debate goes, Unkai, so I don't need to have an even uglier body on SAM and because gearing SAM for shit mobs is a waste. It does superbly in situations where its benefits can be utilized and should be geared for such.

[ccl]

Kaiten is far from a trash, ws so is fudo. On stuff like ADL, it ussually average on par/higher than other DD ws wich are entropy drk, war, mnk. What are good ws then only ukon/reso ?

Using phorcys hand/pole grip/porthos body got about 25 more dps on fodder/qilin.

What would be an ideal embrava set using unkai +2 body ? (Using embrava for Legion/Nyzle/Adl/Provenance Watcher so looking for a set for it, since accuracy matter in Provenance/Legion)

Wich Situation does cap magic haste aside embrava+haste nowadays ?

[dasva]

Comparing relic/empyrean ws to entropy...

As far as capped haste there is always the original

[Koyangi]

Stacked Rudra's on THF is going to beat stacked Rudra's on DNC. Do what Dotsudoku said if you want one high-damage WS.

If the monster has a ton of HP and NFR is up (and you don't have a lot of other people on it), you can do Climactic -> Rudra's -> NFR -> Reverse -> Rudra's for darkness with two crit Rudra's. This will generally be about ~10k damage outside of Abyssea if everything connects/doesn't resist and your attack is decent. 3k -> 3k -> 4k, about.

Otherwise, flourishes don't really help you do more damage. If you include box step/presto delay times and overkill potential, it may not be worth using Steps at all in many situations. That's pretty much what I've settled on. I run around with 4-5 FMs and use Wild or Reverse when it's called for, but otherwise just play the job like a faster Thief with Haste Samba.

It's not worth Climacticing Rudra's when you want to activate AM?

[finalwolf]

How do whms feel about WHM merits now? At the moment I am 5/5 ShellraV and 5/5 Devotion. I plan to lower Devotion to 1/5 and add Protectra V 4/5.

+66 Def from 4/5 Merits
+ 8 Def from Cleric's Duckbills +2 augmented
+10 Def from Sheltered Ring or Brachyura Earring (If other people are equipping them, I idle in Sheltered Ring and have it macroed into my Pro/Shell)

+84 Def total

It's pretty rare I'm in a position to use Devotion on someone else, much less give them the full benefit of 5/5 merits in it now.

[Kalasin]

Gearing SAM for trash mobs is sort of a waste anyway, it's not a DPS monster and situations you're talking about (Embrava, 2xMarch, etc) heavily favor other jobs who hit harder and utilize better WS's. When every job's TP/WS split starts reaching what a SAM's would be, it's not good for the SAM. So as far as the Byrnie or Unkai debate goes, Unkai, so I don't need to have an even uglier body on SAM and because gearing SAM for shit mobs is a waste. It does superbly in situations where its benefits can be utilized and should be geared for such.

If you are suggesting that a Amano can't keep up with other DD assuming all the max buffs, you either haven't played with a good one or are exaggerating to make a point.

[Weeks]

Can you get VW clears out of order? Eg, if you do Jeuno t4s before you've done t3, will you not have to repeat them after you do t3?

[Neisan]

You cannot. Have to do in sequence (including CS/upgrades where applicable), so you'll have to kill them all over again.

[montgomery]

When skilling up synergy if you pick a skill you later on don't want.. is there a way to 'respec' if you will? Or are you locked with that choice? When I was leveling it up when synergy was introduced I leveled up thwack furnace :<

[Zirael]

Voidwatch after update:
BLM/SCH/RDM atmacites for general purposes? Provenance/Shrewd/Curses? Or you'd use something different? Other options I'd consider would be Destruction, Affinity, Mystycism. Is Curses better one than Destruction (that's my assumption)? Assailment useless for anything that matters?

Corsair atmacites: Coercion/Slayer/Discipline? Assailment or Destruction replace any of them?

[Radec]

BLM, I use Prov/Shrewd/Valiant more or less fulltime. If I was to swap in anything, it'd be Skyblaze for valiant, but the extra HP definitely helps.

[dasva]

How do whms feel about WHM merits now? At the moment I am 5/5 ShellraV and 5/5 Devotion. I plan to lower Devotion to 1/5 and add Protectra V 4/5.

+66 Def from 4/5 Merits
+ 8 Def from Cleric's Duckbills +2 augmented
+10 Def from Sheltered Ring or Brachyura Earring (If other people are equipping them, I idle in Sheltered Ring and have it macroed into my Pro/Shell)

+84 Def total

It's pretty rare I'm in a position to use Devotion on someone else, much less give them the full benefit of 5/5 merits in it now.

I really don't see that helping you that much. Especially over say acension pro V or just protectra IV