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  1. #621
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    Can Shinryu be killed reliably/easily without a brew now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaWAR View Post
    Can Shinryu be killed reliably/easily without a brew now?
    I think he full heals, or heals for a retarded amount every time he uses mighty guard.

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    Draylo Solo'd it on Blu, Mojo dbox'd it on Mnk. I can't find the posts on it right now though. For 90 I believe you had to take him to around 40% wait for closed wings pop screens then zerg him down.

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    *scratches head* Realized I'm clueless as to how weapon skill damage is calculated...

    With regards to realmrazer,

    is there an ideal amount of MND i should stack before adding more would be less detrimental than say, adding attack? (as in some sort of weapon skill modifier cap?)
    roughly what would be the relationship between ATK and MND that I should use when guessing gearsets? (would rancors 17atk be better than sunbeams 6mnd? I'd imagine I wouldn't be anywhere near attack capped on any mob)
    how does base weapon damage factor into it? Can i afford to use a lower damage main handed weapon because the modifier is so large?

    Failing any of those random (mostly stupid) questions, is there any related research material on the merit point WS's that might be worthwhile to read?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan View Post
    Draylo Solo'd it on Blu, Mojo dbox'd it on Mnk. I can't find the posts on it right now though. For 90 I believe you had to take him to around 40% wait for closed wings pop screens then zerg him down.
    Do you know what topic those were posted in? I guess the Shinryu BC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleste View Post
    *scratches head* Realized I'm clueless as to how weapon skill damage is calculated...

    With regards to realmrazer,

    is there an ideal amount of MND i should stack before adding more would be less detrimental than say, adding attack? (as in some sort of weapon skill modifier cap?)
    roughly what would be the relationship between ATK and MND that I should use when guessing gearsets? (would rancors 17atk be better than sunbeams 6mnd? I'd imagine I wouldn't be anywhere near attack capped on any mob)
    how does base weapon damage factor into it? Can i afford to use a lower damage main handed weapon because the modifier is so large?

    Failing any of those random (mostly stupid) questions, is there any related research material on the merit point WS's that might be worthwhile to read?

    I had this sitting around from a while ago, so I tossed it up as a guide:
    https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Byrth%27s_WS_Damage_Guide

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaWAR View Post
    Do you know what topic those were posted in? I guess the Shinryu BC?
    Don't know about the dboxed mnk one, but draylo's blu solo of shinryu is at the bottom of this thread: http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/109...-Magic-soloing

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    Thank you byrth, was exactly what i was looking for.

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    Decided to level BRD, What AF1/Relic should I be getting, if any? Obviously all the AF3 is rather good. Any other pieces of gear I should definitely have?

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    How good/bad is Apex Arrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fereydoon View Post
    Decided to level BRD, What AF1/Relic should I be getting, if any? Obviously all the AF3 is rather good. Any other pieces of gear I should definitely have?
    Offhand, good as the Empyrean set is, the head/feet lack +skill if you're pushing that. For the head, there are several Singing skill options - Relic or Demon Helm with +5, Demon Helm +1 with +6, and Relic +2 and Marduk Tiara with +7. Relic and Marduk also have some CHR for landing offensive songs, but I'm not sure if MAcc would be better for that.

    For the feet, Relic or Marduk have String skill, Oracles have Wind, at least.

    Musical Earring is also nice if you're looking at relatively simple non-AH items.

    That said, not sure how much you really need to build for that in the long run, as far as I know Victory March caps at 600 skill and Minuet V at 680, and you'd have 746 skill naked at 99. There's probably something that benefits from it, just not bread n' butter DD songs, unless something has changed that the wikis have not accounted for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isiolia View Post
    Offhand, good as the Empyrean set is, the head/feet lack +skill if you're pushing that. For the head, there are several Singing skill options - Relic or Demon Helm with +5, Demon Helm +1 with +6, and Relic +2 and Marduk Tiara with +7. Relic and Marduk also have some CHR for landing offensive songs, but I'm not sure if MAcc would be better for that.

    For the feet, Relic or Marduk have String skill, Oracles have Wind, at least.

    Musical Earring is also nice if you're looking at relatively simple non-AH items.

    That said, not sure how much you really need to build for that in the long run, as far as I know Victory March caps at 600 skill and Minuet V at 680, and you'd have 746 skill naked at 99. There's probably something that benefits from it, just not bread n' butter DD songs, unless something has changed that the wikis have not accounted for.
    Sentinel's Scherzo caps at 800 skill.

    https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Sentinel%27s_Scherzo

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    How good/bad is Apex Arrow?
    Pretty good when the ignores def matters. I think there was some testing on it and was a fairly decent amount ignored. And VW nms have alot of def so if you end up never getting min/chaos and still want to /sam like me would probably beat out last stand. Not sure how it would stand vs empyrean ws though

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    Is demonry ring one of the best TP'n rings for THF?

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    Is trading cells in VW worth it? Or is the difference it makes basically non-existant?

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    Optimal sets for Masamune assuming no Rose Strap?

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    Droprates are so random it's hard to tell. I use them just in case myself

  18. #638
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguile View Post
    Is trading cells in VW worth it? Or is the difference it makes basically non-existant?
    General consensus seems to be:

    rubicund - yep
    cobalt - meh, preference

    I personally use cobalt more now mainly due to wanting more shots at crystal petrifact for the provenance watcher runs that occasionally spring up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altwight View Post
    Is demonry ring one of the best TP'n rings for THF?
    If you don't have rajas and epona's.

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    Found out. Nvm!

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