Random Question Thread XXVI: The Rise and Fall of the RQT

[noodles355]

Thf I went 5 Trick Attack, 5 Triple Attack, 5 Aura Steal, 5 Feint. SA vs TA, and Aura vs Ass Charge is down to personal prefference and the content you do imo.
Rng 5 Snapshot, 5 whatever, 5 Rapid Shot, 5 Flashy Shot. Flashy has a long recast, but it's the most damaging option. Recycle if you're cheap.
Cor 5/5 QD recast, 5/5 PR recast, 5/5 Snake Eye, 1/5 Loaded Deck, 4/5 Fold.
Whm 5/5 CCT, 5/5 Barspell, 5/5 Devotion, 5/5 Shellra V
Nin... Think I did 5/5 Subtle Blow, 5/5 Hyoton, 5/5 Hyoton: San, 1/5 Every other San Spell.
War 5/5 Serk, 5/5 DA, 1/5 Tomahawk, 5/5 and 4/5 Savagery and WC (don't remember which 4 and which 5).

That's all my jobs at least.

[Warusha]

How does this test confirm if hq has more than nq?... and from confirmed recast values with vivid +1 (.5), nares cap(5), anhur robe(5), nebula cuffs +1(.5), swith cape +1(2), witful belt[(3 Haste)+(1.5 Fastcast offering 1.5 recast)=4.5], prolix ring (1), loquacious earring (1), incantor stone (1), augur's gaiters (1.5), nebula slops +1(1) my recast timer is at 46 seconds, while it should be at 47 seconds if my math isn't terrible.

Please let me know what I can do to help if tests need completed.

Edit: forgot hq slops

Bold to reiterate. I will concede that I offered no control for a variable I myself admitted to being unconfirmed, that witful belt offers 3% haste as described on the gear. With that being said, using the above gear sans the witful belt, my recast is (Sub-.5, ammo-1, head-5, earring-1, body-5, hands-.5, ring-1, back-2, legs-1, feet-1.5) which yielded 49 seconds.

Edit 2: removed errant units.

[Darkmagi]

I would still opt to recycle over flashy shot for the +2 head bonus, if not just for the gil saved alone.

[dasva]

I'd probably do 1 into AC but more than that has such limited returns. You might even argue it could lower dmg if you still use evisceration/DE lol

[noodles355]

How Is Scout's Beret +2 with 5/5 Merits better than Syvlan Gapette +2? You only get the bonus on recycle procs. How can you accurately build that into your X-hit STP requirements, and if you drop some STP to compensate, what happens when you don't get a single proc and require an extra hit for 100%TP?

If you didn't change the STP in your gear, with the view that the extra TP will occasionally save you a shot, then it only will if you use a 6hit (which you shouldn't).

And even if you did build it in effectively, would the DD stats you gain in place of STP out-weight the Ratt/Racc/Snapshot of AF3+2 head...?

[Darkmagi]

50%(assuming +2 hat doesn't have an increase in recycle potency) chance with hat and merits, it allows for a lot of lenience in STP gear. Snapshot gear is preshot, so no loss there. I would think that the Ratk would be made up for with overflow TP for last stand, and I may be biased on the Racc since I use Annihilator. You have a very low chance of not getting at least 1 recycle proc in a 4/5hit build even.

I also think it's completely silly to demerit the gil saved from recycle. No one has enough gil to not be saving half of their extremely expensive bullets for an epeen WS once every 10mins.

[noodles355]

50% chance with hat and merits, it allows for a lot of lenience in STP gear.

How? You didn't actually address the question.

How can you accurately build that into your X-hit STP requirements, and if you drop some STP to compensate, what happens when you don't get a single proc and require an extra hit for 100%TP?

Standard "because it's the internet" disclaimer: It's a genuine question, I'm not saying you're wrong.

[Churchill]

I'm sorry are you advocating not shooting adaman bullets?

[Zeb]

Anyone know the respawn time for Gurfurler, Medusa and Gulool Ja?

[Byrthnoth]

Bold to reiterate. I will concede that I offered no control for a variable I myself admitted to being unconfirmed, that witful belt offers 3% haste as described on the gear. With that being said, using the above gear sans the witful belt, my recast is (Sub-.5, ammo-1, head-5, earring-1, body-5, hands-.5, ring-1, back-2, legs-1, feet-1.5) which yielded 49 seconds.

Edit 2: removed errant units.

Well, your gear has 37% Fast Cast (1% + 2% + 10% + 2% + 10% + 1% + 2% + 4% + 2% + 3%), which would give you -18% Recast or a 49 second Reraise (so it works out) when unweakened. It's not actually the best way to test because -17% Recast also gives you a 49 second Reraise when unweakened. Still, just seeing no change from 60 seconds when you put on Vivid Strap +1 already tells us what it is:

If wearing the Strap alone doesn't change the recast of Reraise (60 seconds either way), then it has less than 2% Fast Cast. If we assume SE isn't full of shit, the strap has more than 0% Fast Cast. That leaves 1% Fast Cast, which is equal to what Mojo confirmed Vivid Strap NQ was. Many of the Fast Cast pieces have the testing linked on bgwiki, or it's linked from the main Fast Cast page.

[Darkmagi]

I'll be back in a bit with builds, I miscalculated something and feel dumb. I'll make this work in my favor other than being a money saving jew! Either way, shit is worth it even if you don't benefit much hit build wise. Saving half of your adaman bullets for a minor DPS loss would absolutely be worth it.

[dasva]

I think he is making a build that assumes 1 proc between ws. So if he had that 50% chance to recycle on a 5 hit build there would be only a 6.25% chance that you wouldn't get at least 1 proc messing up your build. There is also a pretty high chance to get at least 2 which might knock a hit off that build

[Darkmagi]

I'm more partial for a 4hit build, but I think a 5hit build using +2 head(Which would make it a 4hit build a lot of the time) would be ideal for legion. All of this assumes /war, I'm fairly sure a /sam build wouldn't really be able to benefit at all from a +2 head build other than saving gil. I'll be back shortly with sets.

[Darkmagi]

TPing in scout's/brutal/volley/sylvan hands/rajas/Tyrant's or hoard/sylvan back/oneiros cest/goading belt/sylvan legs would be enough STP for a 5hit that lets you WS in anything, and if you recycle procs twice, you get a 4hit.

Mekki Shakki/rose/houyi's/brutal/volley/sylvan hands/rajas/tyrant's/sylvan back/oneiros belt/sylvan legs/gules +1 gives you a 4hit that lets you WS in anything as long as you get 1 recycle proc. Can TP in goading belt if you don't want to WS in sylvan back, I'm counting on the second hit of last stand to make up for not using rajas on Last stand as well.

[Stanislaus]

Do WAR RDM PLD DRK BRD SAM and/or DRGs use the Ninurta's Sash for much of anything (correctly or otherwise)?

[Neisan]

If you can't get Nyzul gear and/or Phos belt(+1) (war/sam can use bullwhip if you don't mind the -hp) and you don't need/can't get a phasmida belt (if applicable) otherwise no.

[Plow]

Is sceamol band useful for like... anything?

[asera]

Anyone know the respawn time for Gurfurler, Medusa and Gulool Ja?

I been camping them all 3 this week, they have a window for over 3 days for sure, I camped Medusa on main and Gulool Ja Ja on mule both poped after around 75hrs of camping. You have to claim before a besieged happens since they are killed very offen in there now at 99, at that reset their timer too. (I am going to say either 3-5 days or 5-7 days respawn)

[Yugl]

Is sceamol band useful for like... anything?

Spirit/Soul Jump.

[Dathus]

Can THF or DRG and WHM or RDM duo the T1/T2 path for Tyger, and if so which T1 and T2? Also, could we successfully do the T3s or no?