Random Question Thread XXVI: The Rise and Fall of the RQT

**Squah** · 2012-05-18 22:54

Are the drop %'s in the lolwiki here with blue, or without blue?

**Yugl** · 2012-05-18 22:57

Has to be blue.

**Squah** · 2012-05-18 23:04

Originally Posted by Yugl

Has to be blue.

time to level mnk to 99, level staff, and level club. sigh.

at least i already have black belt

edit: what's best way to brew shin on mnk? earth crusher spam with terra staff?

**Radec** · 2012-05-19 01:00

Victory Smite/Ascetic's Fury, just normal crit WS is fine. If you load normal attack/critrate atma, building tp for blue!! is a lot easier.

If you're careful with not healing him with ws, you can kill him in about 45s with vere90 vsmites, 3mins will be no problem for ascetics/even howling fist if no vere.

**ryskar** · 2012-05-19 03:10

Meant to quote. Whoops.

**grevenilvec75** · 2012-05-19 09:36

Originally Posted by noodles355

Planning SCH. This is what I have planned. ( being AF1/2/3 I haven't obtained yet.) Apart from enhance+ which is the big one and I'll deal with later, is the rest passable? Is there anything hideously obvious I've missed?

Code:

	<sets>
		<group default="yes" name="sch">
			<set name="Idle">
				<main>Terra's Staff</main>
				<sub>Verse Strap +1</sub>
				<!--ammo>Savant's Treatise</ammo-->
				<!--head>Wivre Hairpin</head-->
				<neck>Twilight Torque</neck>
				<lear>Ethereal Earring</lear>
				<rear>Loquac. Earring</rear>
				<body>Pluviale</body>
				<hands>Serpentes Cuffs</hands>
				<lring>Archon Ring</lring>
				<rring>Shadow Ring</rring>
				<back>Umbra Cape</back>
				<waist>Goading Belt</waist>
				<!--legs>Stearc Subligar</legs-->
				<feet>Serpentes Sabots</feet>
			</set>
			<set name="Sandstorm" BaseSet="Idle">
				<feet>Desert Boots</feet>
			</set>
			<set name="Subli" BaseSet="Idle">
				<!--head>Scholar's Mortarboard</head-->
				<!--rear>Savant's Earring</read-->
				<!--body>Argute Gown +2</body-->
			</set>
			<set name="SandSubli" BaseSet="Subli">
				<feet>Desert Boots</feet>
			</set>
			<set name="Rest" BaseSet="Idle">
				<main>Pluto's Staff</main>
			</set>
			<set name="Salvage" BaseSet="Idle">
				<rring>Balrahn's Ring</rring>
			</set>
			<set name="SalvageRest" BaseSet="Rest">
				<rring>Balrahn's Ring</rring>
			</set>
			<set name="Cure">
				<main>Apollo's Staff</main>
				<sub>Verse Strap +1</sub>
				<head>Goliard Chapeau</head>
				<!--neck>Savant's Chain</neck-->
				<lear>Novia Earring</lear>
				<rear>Loquac. Earring</rear>
				<!--body>Nefer Kalasiris</body-->
				<hands>Serpentes Cuffs</hands>
				<lring>Aquasoul Ring</lring>
				<rring>Aquasoul Ring</rring>
				<back>Oretenia's Cape</back>
				<waist>Cascade Belt</waist>
				<legs>Tethyan Trews +3</legs>
				<feet>Serpentes Sabots</feet>
			</set>
			<set name="CureLight" BaseSet="Cure">
				<back>Twilight Cape</back>
				<waist>Korin Obi</waist>
			</set>
			<set name="FastCast">
				<!--head>Argute Mortarboad +2</head-->
				<rear>Loquac. Earring</rear>
				<waist>Siegel Sash</waist>
				<!--feet>Scholar's Loafers</feet-->
			</set>
			<set name="Buffs" BaseSet="Idle">
				<head>Zelus Tiara</head>
				<lear>Novia Earring</lear>
				<rear>Loquac. Earring</rear>
				<body>Goliard Saio</body>
				<hands>Augur's Gloves</hands>
				<waist>Goading Belt</waist>
				<legs>Tatsu. Sitagoromo</legs>
			</set>
			<set name="Stoneskin" BaseSet="Buffs">
				<waist>Siegel Sash</waist>
			</set>
			<set name="Enhance" BaseSet="Buffs">
				<!--head>Savant's Bonnet +2</head-->
				<!--body>Argute Gown +2</body-->
				<!--legs>Scholar's Pants</legs-->
			</set>
			<set name="MND">
				<sub>Verse Strap +1</sub>
				<!--head>Argute Mortarboad +2</head-->
				<!--neck>Savant's Chain</neck-->
				<lear>Celestial Earring</lear>
				<rear>Celestial Earring</rear>
				<!--body>Savant's Gown +2</body-->
				<!--hands>Savant's Bracers +2</hands-->
				<lring>Aquasoul Ring</lring>
				<rring>Aquasoul Ring</rring>
				<back>Kaikias' Cape</back>
				<waist>Cascade Belt</waist>
				<!--legs>Savant's Pants +2</legs-->
				<feet>Goliard Clogs</feet>
			</set>
			<set name="INT" BaseSet="MND">
				<sub>Macero Grip</sub>
				<lear>Strophadic Earring</lear>
				<rear>Enfeebling Earring</rear>
				<lring>Icesoul Ring</lring>
				<rring>Omega Ring</rring>
				<waist>Cognition Belt</waist>
				<!--feet>Savant's Loafers +2</feet-->
			</set>
			<set name="Nuke">
				<sub>Elementa Grip</sub>
				<!--head>Nefer Khat</head-->
				<neck>Stoicheion Medal</neck>
				<lear>Strophadic Earring</lear>
				<rear>Hecate's Earring</rear>
				<!--body>Savant's Gown +2</body-->
				<!--hands>Savant's Bracers +2</hands-->
				<lring>Strendu Ring</lring>
				<rring>Icesoul Ring</rring>
				<!--back>Searing Cape</back-->
				<waist>Cognition Belt</waist>
				<!--legs>NO FUCKING CLUE</legs-->
				<!--feet>Savant's Loafers +2</feet-->
			</set>
			<set name="Dark">
				<head>Zelus Tiara</head>
				<neck>Dark Torque</neck>
				<lear>Novia Earring</lear>
				<rear>Loquac. Earring</rear>
				<!--body>Scholar's Gown</body-->
				<hands>Serpentes Cuffs</hands>
				<lring>Balrahn's Ring</lring>
				<rring>Archon Ring</rring>
				<back>Umbra Cape</back>
				<waist>Goading Belt</waist>
				<legs>Tatsu. Sitagoromo</legs>
				<feet>Augur's Gaiters</feet>
			</set>
				
				
		</group>
	</sets>

Initial thoughts. Oneiros grip/ dark rings/ Gaiters/ slipor sash/ refresh moonshade/ magian cure staff/ sirona's ring/ ephedra ring/ witful belt/ Impatiens

What you have is passable, but there's some cheap ah stuff that you're missing (slipor sash, healing rings) For stuff that's expensive/hard to get (grip/ gaiters) you have reasonable alternatives.

**cdgreg** · 2012-05-19 09:54

Originally Posted by Squah

time to level mnk to 99, level staff, and level club. sigh.

at least i already have black belt

edit: what's best way to brew shin on mnk? earth crusher spam with terra staff?

Never done this myself but a previous LSmate Ophanneus (I believe he still posts here) used to go in during piercing as THF and WS/reraise with apoc atma until the stagger was dagger. At that point he would brew>stagger>kill. You get blue!! and TH that way. Goodluck, I think it took him like 80 kills.

**dasva** · 2012-05-19 10:16

I liked doing rng since I had 12/15 peircing procs and th and I could spend alot of time searching for the right ws since I could one shot but I found proccing ranged ws tended to be much harder to time. So my ls started going during blunt and using pld since it can hold it's own long enough to find clues and proc... or die if you don't have it and rr. And then we'd bring a thf if we weren't soloing lol

**Taim Meich** · 2012-05-19 10:35

Originally Posted by noodles355

Planning SCH. This is what I have planned. ( being AF1/2/3 I haven't obtained yet.) Apart from enhance+ which is the big one and I'll deal with later, is the rest passable? Is there anything hideously obvious I've missed?

Code:

	<sets>
		<group default="yes" name="sch">
			<set name="Idle">
				<main>Terra's Staff</main>
				<sub>Verse Strap +1</sub>
				<!--ammo>Savant's Treatise</ammo-->
				<!--head>Wivre Hairpin</head-->
				<neck>Twilight Torque</neck>
				<lear>Ethereal Earring</lear>
				<rear>Loquac. Earring</rear>
				<body>Pluviale</body>
				<hands>Serpentes Cuffs</hands>
				<lring>Archon Ring</lring>
				<rring>Shadow Ring</rring>
				<back>Umbra Cape</back>
				<waist>Goading Belt</waist>
				<!--legs>Stearc Subligar</legs-->
				<feet>Serpentes Sabots</feet>
			</set>
			<set name="Sandstorm" BaseSet="Idle">
				<feet>Desert Boots</feet>
			</set>
			<set name="Subli" BaseSet="Idle">
				<!--head>Scholar's Mortarboard</head-->
				<!--rear>Savant's Earring</read-->
				<!--body>Argute Gown +2</body-->
			</set>
			<set name="SandSubli" BaseSet="Subli">
				<feet>Desert Boots</feet>
			</set>
			<set name="Rest" BaseSet="Idle">
				<main>Pluto's Staff</main>
			</set>
			<set name="Salvage" BaseSet="Idle">
				<rring>Balrahn's Ring</rring>
			</set>
			<set name="SalvageRest" BaseSet="Rest">
				<rring>Balrahn's Ring</rring>
			</set>
			<set name="Cure">
				<main>Apollo's Staff</main>
				<sub>Verse Strap +1</sub>
				<head>Goliard Chapeau</head>
				<!--neck>Savant's Chain</neck-->
				<lear>Novia Earring</lear>
				<rear>Loquac. Earring</rear>
				<!--body>Nefer Kalasiris</body-->
				<hands>Serpentes Cuffs</hands>
				<lring>Aquasoul Ring</lring>
				<rring>Aquasoul Ring</rring>
				<back>Oretenia's Cape</back>
				<waist>Cascade Belt</waist>
				<legs>Tethyan Trews +3</legs>
				<feet>Serpentes Sabots</feet>
			</set>
			<set name="CureLight" BaseSet="Cure">
				<back>Twilight Cape</back>
				<waist>Korin Obi</waist>
			</set>
			<set name="FastCast">
				<!--head>Argute Mortarboad +2</head-->
				<rear>Loquac. Earring</rear>
				<waist>Siegel Sash</waist>
				<!--feet>Scholar's Loafers</feet-->
			</set>
			<set name="Buffs" BaseSet="Idle">
				<head>Zelus Tiara</head>
				<lear>Novia Earring</lear>
				<rear>Loquac. Earring</rear>
				<body>Goliard Saio</body>
				<hands>Augur's Gloves</hands>
				<waist>Goading Belt</waist>
				<legs>Tatsu. Sitagoromo</legs>
			</set>
			<set name="Stoneskin" BaseSet="Buffs">
				<waist>Siegel Sash</waist>
			</set>
			<set name="Enhance" BaseSet="Buffs">
				<!--head>Savant's Bonnet +2</head-->
				<!--body>Argute Gown +2</body-->
				<!--legs>Scholar's Pants</legs-->
			</set>
			<set name="MND">
				<sub>Verse Strap +1</sub>
				<!--head>Argute Mortarboad +2</head-->
				<!--neck>Savant's Chain</neck-->
				<lear>Celestial Earring</lear>
				<rear>Celestial Earring</rear>
				<!--body>Savant's Gown +2</body-->
				<!--hands>Savant's Bracers +2</hands-->
				<lring>Aquasoul Ring</lring>
				<rring>Aquasoul Ring</rring>
				<back>Kaikias' Cape</back>
				<waist>Cascade Belt</waist>
				<!--legs>Savant's Pants +2</legs-->
				<feet>Goliard Clogs</feet>
			</set>
			<set name="INT" BaseSet="MND">
				<sub>Macero Grip</sub>
				<lear>Strophadic Earring</lear>
				<rear>Enfeebling Earring</rear>
				<lring>Icesoul Ring</lring>
				<rring>Omega Ring</rring>
				<waist>Cognition Belt</waist>
				<!--feet>Savant's Loafers +2</feet-->
			</set>
			<set name="Nuke">
				<sub>Elementa Grip</sub>
				<!--head>Nefer Khat</head-->
				<neck>Stoicheion Medal</neck>
				<lear>Strophadic Earring</lear>
				<rear>Hecate's Earring</rear>
				<!--body>Savant's Gown +2</body-->
				<!--hands>Savant's Bracers +2</hands-->
				<lring>Strendu Ring</lring>
				<rring>Icesoul Ring</rring>
				<!--back>Searing Cape</back-->
				<waist>Cognition Belt</waist>
				<!--legs>NO FUCKING CLUE</legs-->
				<!--feet>Savant's Loafers +2</feet-->
			</set>
			<set name="Dark">
				<head>Zelus Tiara</head>
				<neck>Dark Torque</neck>
				<lear>Novia Earring</lear>
				<rear>Loquac. Earring</rear>
				<!--body>Scholar's Gown</body-->
				<hands>Serpentes Cuffs</hands>
				<lring>Balrahn's Ring</lring>
				<rring>Archon Ring</rring>
				<back>Umbra Cape</back>
				<waist>Goading Belt</waist>
				<legs>Tatsu. Sitagoromo</legs>
				<feet>Augur's Gaiters</feet>
			</set>
				
				
		</group>
	</sets>

It's a good starting point, everything is good/passable. However, I'm surprised by a lack of rules for Savant's Mortarboard +2 for ebullienced nukes (that is, most, nowadays), and for using cape/obi in matching weather. Oh, and make an helix set. You don't need to hunt for specific pieces if you're not a perfectionist (honestly, I only use Helices now for fun and for soloing Up in Arms... and procs), but just throwing all your +int gear that isn't heavily outweighted by MAB will make them way better.

Oh, and use Teal legs. There's only one thing worse that being a Teal/Aurore/Perle gimp: refusing to use pieces of those sets even if the alternative is worse.

**Diddy Kong** · 2012-05-19 11:00

Is there any way to figure out which jobs you've beaten maat on? Want to pickup my hat this weekend and honestly can't remember what jobs I've won on.

**Taera** · 2012-05-19 12:15

What are the 3 best VW atmas for BLM and MNK (no emp)?

**Taim Meich** · 2012-05-19 13:48

Originally Posted by Diddy Kong

Is there any way to figure out which jobs you've beaten maat on? Want to pickup my hat this weekend and honestly can't remember what jobs I've won on.

Checking titles, I guess. No idea of which bard it is, though.

**KCem** · 2012-05-19 13:57

Doesn't Maat give the same title for all jobs ? Shattering Star or something ?

**ssjjfar** · 2012-05-19 14:36

Any good strats for Vanasarvik?
2 PLDs, one to kite adds?
Any other suggestions? Full alliance needed/suggested?

**ronin sparthos** · 2012-05-19 14:49

Originally Posted by ssjjfar

Any good strats for Vanasarvik?
2 PLDs, one to kite adds?
Any other suggestions? Full alliance needed/suggested?

2 strats for this:

1. Keep him proclocked and have everyone use fanatics when if/when he manages to call out those adds. Anyone without a drink up will most likely die when all the imps sync TP moves so this strat counts on people not being retarded, favorable procs and enough damage to end the battle before shit starts to get ugly.

2. Have the PLD spawn and hit one proc. Upon unfreezing the imp will immediately use Bugle Call and adds will lock on the PLD. Have the DD pull Vanasarvik off the PLD and proc/kill as usual.

**Diddy Kong** · 2012-05-19 15:14

Originally Posted by KCem

Doesn't Maat give the same title for all jobs ? Shattering Star or something ?

He gives Maat Masher for all jobs, shattering stars or whichever it is you get when you actually finish LB5.

Damn, guess I'll just do them all except the three I do know.

**Maguile** · 2012-05-19 15:47

Which relics are still good nowadays? Been saving up gil/currency for one and still havent really decided, although Im leaning towards apoc. Jobs I have are:

Mnk w/vere
War w/maschu+2
Drk w/oat g.sword
Pld
Rng w/WoE gun/bow
Thf

**Xera** · 2012-05-19 15:56

Does installing XI on a SSD show any notable difference?

**KCem** · 2012-05-19 16:37

Originally Posted by Diddy Kong

He gives Maat Masher for all jobs, shattering stars or whichever it is you get when you actually finish LB5.

Damn, guess I'll just do them all except the three I do know.

Does Maat give different dialog for jobs you've already won with vs ones you haven't if you trade a testimony ? Maybe that can give you a hint (I'd check but I haven't updated to the May update yet, and can't be arsed with it now)

**Yugl** · 2012-05-19 16:52

Originally Posted by Xera

Does installing XI on a SSD show any notable difference?

Faster zones + loading is what I notice. You won't notice anything megamega different since most of the sloth derives from the internet portion of the game.

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