Random Question Thread XXVI: The Rise and Fall of the RQT

[Nightfyre]

rag is really good because resolution is nuts, but the way Apoc changes the game makes it pretty much hands down the best relic

Warrior changed a lot when abyssea/level cap came out due to not needing accuracy and not using ridill. The DA 5/5 is still pretty much no question, but the value of zerk vs aggressor is really, really hard to clearly state currently. This is due to the combination of having mobs with decent evasion again, constantly having to hit shit that has decent evasion with weapons we have shitty skills on, and the simple fact that warrior is doing insane damage regardless of what merits we pick at this point. While zerk timer is the superior damage option in terms of raw damage on shit where aggressor doesn't mean as much, the question of "do I really need more damage with my greataxe vs the utility role for procs we're filling an awful damn lot of the time?" is pretty tough.

[noodles355]

the way Apoc changes the game makes it pretty much hands down the best relic

It's really that game changing? It offers survivability in lowman situations, but then Anni/Yoichi are debteably as game-changing for Rng in alliance-NM fights as Apoc is for lowman surely.

[Mairja]

Warrior changed a lot when abyssea/level cap came out due to not needing accuracy and not using ridill. The DA 5/5 is still pretty much no question, but the value of zerk vs aggressor is really, really hard to clearly state currently. This is due to the combination of having mobs with decent evasion again, constantly having to hit shit that has decent evasion with weapons we have shitty skills on, and the simple fact that warrior is doing insane damage regardless of what merits we pick at this point. While zerk timer is the superior damage option in terms of raw damage on shit where aggressor doesn't mean as much, the question of "do I really need more damage with my greataxe vs the utility role for procs we're filling an awful damn lot of the time?" is pretty tough.

Not really tough at all.

[Plow]

It's really that game changing? It offers survivability in lowman situations, but then Anni/Yoichi are debteably as game-changing for Rng in alliance-NM fights as Apoc is for lowman surely.

The fact that it lets you souleater pretty much at will, in alliance or lowman situations, is just massive. More so in lowman, obviously, but it's a pretty big deal no matter what you're doing.

As to zerk... it's 3/5 vs 3/4.17. It's not like if you don't merit zerk you can never use it.

[Cairthenn]

 

[Plow]

if you disagree feel free to actually make any kind of argument whatsoever

[NotGreyheim]

Is the increased combat skill gain from Prouesse Ring and Terminus Earring noticeable? Been in Zeruhn for hours now (I know it's not much compared to some), and debating whether it would be faster to just skill up without them.

[Plow]

The ring is great from what I've heard, though I don't have experience with it. Can't you skill decently high (like 320ish at least I think) on the mobs you're killing for it anyway though?

[NotGreyheim]

They're EP, so probably. That's actually another thing I was thinking of. I came as THF in case I needed to use tools for hints, but need to skill up on my WAR. I've since learned how useless the hints given for tools actually are, so I may just come back as WAR. Not like I've gotten anything more useful than MACC/MATT and crystal yield prowesses anyway

[Plow]

According to otherwiki bats/crabs go to 78, worms to 79, and leeches to 80, so yeah I'd give that a try unless you're trying to cap out.

[Wardeniii]

Best neck/waist for Shijin Spiral?

For attack uncapped, Justiciar's and Prosilio.
For attack capped, Moepapa Medal and Wanion. If fSTR is uncapped, the 8 STR will out-do or at least equal the extra 2 DEX from artful +1--Wanion is also free and fairly common~

[Cream Soda]

Main uses for Thaumas hands, Phorcys legs (and well the use for phorcys feet is obvious)? Only 3 pieces I need left for those 2 sets, but not rly sure if they're worth the effort and/or inventory space

[Limlight]

if you disagree feel free to actually make any kind of argument whatsoever

I still pop SE everytime my timer is up even with rag because my whm doesn't suck. The damage of rag + resolution vs apoc + cata isn't close. I've had and loved my apoc forever, but facts are facts. With whm's in god mode you should never be in trouble to use SE. If you are then get better mages.

[Limlight]

Main uses for Thaumas hands, Phorcys legs (and well the use for phorcys feet is obvious)? Only 3 pieces I need left for those 2 sets, but not rly sure if they're worth the effort and/or inventory space

phorcys legs are the best tp legs for drk in the game atm.

[KCem]

The fact that it lets you souleater pretty much at will, in alliance or lowman situations, is just massive. More so in lowman, obviously, but it's a pretty big deal no matter what you're doing.

Just querying, since I barely get a chance to play at the moment and my knowledgebase is a little out of date, but I understand that Apoc gives DRK some independence with souleating, and gives a great boost to gear selection through dropping haste gear, but nowadays with embrava and LA regen, is souleater damage even an issue ? Even at 75 I could use souleater freely on NIN/DRK and not worry too much as long as the WHM wasn't asleep.

EDIT: I was too slow

[Fake]

Its standard plow, been like this for years. I don't know why people are even reacting.

[Taint]

Proper gear sets and support nothing is touching Rag. Phorcys widened the gap between the 2 relics. Too bad 95% of Rag users will never get the full potential out of it.

Still if I had to pick one, no way I'm giving up Apoc.

[Ophannus]

Can those random Beastmen NMs in Dyna Buburimu still drop 100 pieces? Or are they just for weakening the dragon/locking his 2hrs?

[Atoreis]

I still pop SE everytime my timer is up even with rag because my whm doesn't suck. The damage of rag + resolution vs apoc + cata isn't close. I've had and loved my apoc forever, but facts are facts. With whm's in god mode you should never be in trouble to use SE. If you are then get better mages.

Yeah but you need what, 1 whm per 1 drk to actually keep up with healing? Especially with cap haste and using 5-7 hit ws. So unless you have WHM that is waching only you for 1 min zerg and is doing pretty much nothing else then yeah. Otherwise you are loosing HP really fast and your souleater damage goes shit.

[noodles355]

Let's not have another damn Apoc vs Rag debate please. Happens too often.