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    Most of the difference in Islam to Judaism to Christianity is based on the Pagan beliefs of the Arab people who did things like science and whatnot prior to Mohammed.

    As far as being incomprehensible, the daughter's reaction is very Arab. She was coherent and pushed a platform/agenda in the time she had on air and what signs of sadness emerged occurred at optimal times for her plea. In the US, you see people do this when they murder their kid and ask/plead for help in "finding their baby aliveeeee". In the Levant/Middle East, this is just how people are. I brought that up because it stood out to me as something very typically Arab.

    I'm eager to see what Santorum has to say about it, if questioned. Seems like a perfect opportunity for him to say something awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    Most of the difference in Islam to Judaism to Christianity is based on the Pagan beliefs of the Arab people who did things like science and whatnot prior to Mohammed.

    As far as being incomprehensible, the daughter's reaction is very Arab. She was coherent and pushed a platform/agenda in the time she had on air and what signs of sadness emerged occurred at optimal times for her plea. In the US, you see people do this when they murder their kid and ask/plead for help in "finding their baby aliveeeee". In the Levant/Middle East, this is just how people are. I brought that up because it stood out to me as something very typically Arab.

    I'm eager to see what Santorum has to say about it, if questioned. Seems like a perfect opportunity for him to say something awesome.
    So, you're saying she was too emotional because her mother was beaten to death? That she called out the attacker on television? I don't understand what you're trying to say.

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    I didn't see any emotion is what I am saying --> when I said Muslim's don't see life and death like "americans" or "christians" do.

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    Did you even watch the video or do you enjoy being obtuse?

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    I watched it three times just to be sure I was reading her correctly, so yes.

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    So you do enjoy being oblivious. Got it.

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    I can see how someone might think that. She's coherent and composed for most of the interview despite having recently found her mother dying on the floor, the victim of an apparent random act of violence. If it the same thing had happened to some hillbilly they'd be all "Sheeess deaaaaaaaaaaaaad. IMMA GITTTTTTT UUUUUU SUUUCKAAAAAAAAAAA!" and more incoherent rambling without revealing any salient facts or commenting on the social forces that were at play. The girl even manages to toss out several substantial guilt trips / intelligent and pointed insults towards whoever did it.

    To me, it just looks like she is guilty of grieving while intelligent. I bet my girlfriend would react similarly (perhaps with a little less composure and a little less rage) if something like this happened and she's a whitey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    I didn't see any emotion is what I am saying --> when I said Muslim's don't see life and death like "americans" or "christians" do.
    1. you're blind if you didn't see any emotion from her.....

    2. first you said "Arabs" act that way, then you switch to "Muslims" act that way. Which is retarded. I know what attitude you're trying to refer to which is (spelled incorrectly as I don't know Arab writing, but phonetically speaking) "In sha Allah" Which means "if God wills it." Which is an arabic phrase not limited to Muslims. However, they will stil lbe fucking sad about it, you are taking the concept to the extreme and don't seem to understand it at all.





    Outside of that, reports have it that the woman died yesterday. :/

    Confirming what I was talking about though:

    http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news...ate-crime-dies


    El Cajon, northeast of downtown San Diego, is home to some 40,000 Iraqi immigrants, the second largest such community in the U.S. after Detroit.
    Terrible that having such a large community can have this kind of hate.

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    She was quite emotional. What I admired was that she was still able to speak effectively. She was able to get her feelings out with her words -- and on TV no less. I also love how a young Muslim woman can be so confident that this was not the work of a "true Christian" either. That spoke to me. She seems very tolerant and well educated. What a shame that her family has to go through such horror.

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    y u take me out of your sig Sera

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazmaz View Post
    y u take me out of your sig Sera
    Because my frogs are better

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    I agree with Churchill, something is terribly off-putting with the daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    I agree with Churchill, something is terribly off-putting with the daughter.
    You mean, aside from the fact that she's a muslim?

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    lol at the insha'allah lesson

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    I wouldn't call a more foresight oriented mindset an Arab or Muslim trait. It's fairly common in all Eastern cultures, and it's certainly independent of sociopathic tendencies. The emotions are still there, they're just being put to better use.

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    I wonder if Churchill would talk shit like he does if he sees a muslim that doesn't wear the hijab in the same situation. I wonder if he'll even be able to tell if they are muslim. I wonder if he'll still act like he knows what the fucking fuck he's fucking talking about.

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    Are you mad cause you're arab, or cause churchill does crossfit?

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    From Iran so not Arab.
    I'm mad cause Churchill thinks he knows what he's talking about because he went into a country as an occupier and made shitty observations and just guessed the reasons for those observations.

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    To Americans, you're all the same over there.

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    I couldn't have got to know a culture, or even been required to out of necessity to perform my duties. Iranians are very different from the rest of the ME, is that your point? Or was your point that you understand an Iraqi/Levant Arab or an Afghan Pashtu because you lived in Iran and are Iranian? Ignoring the fact that Iranian's are Persian and closer genetically to Afghans (though culturally, worlds apart) and that Iran is pretty much the sole Shi'ite country in the world (in itself, a 180* difference from the rest of the ME)

    But you've interrogated, studied, lived with and befriended plenty of Sunni Arabs - or rather, since you have not, your experience is far less broad than mine.

    In fact, the only reason the US has any problem with AmericaJr is because of our instillation of the Shah, then Sadaam Hussein and then our two-sided deals prior to invading Iraq. Iranian's were not largely involved in the proxy war with Russia (in fact, some arms were moved through here to Pakistan) and were not involved in a proxy war of their own in Iraq until we ignored their peace offering and set out to establish another Sunni based power to their West. It wasn't until this became apparent that the rise of Muqtada al-Sadr occurred, along with the supply of weapons, ammunition, etc, through the support of the IRGC-QF. What scares the US the most now is that Iran has become the defacto imperial power in the ME and is seeking to establish itself across the Gulf of Oman and project it's naval power with bases in Africa - all the while establishing strong bonds through nearly the same level of humanitarian support that US has given to Iraq and Afghanistan in the hopes of ensuring loyal neighbors.

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