Random Fail: First World Problems

[zoobernut]

Even if the cat doesn't seem scared of the new puppy, changes in the household still cause them stress. One of the major side effects of stress is they can develop bladder issues like infections or even crystals. Crystals are really scary, a male cat can get blocked up and die of them within 24 hours (females less scary, larger urethra).

Cats are terrible at change. When I went back to school and was suddenly almost never home/too busy studying when I was home, my cat stressed himself into a crystals infection. :/

My wife was the manager of a lab at a company that was working on a nano-particle food additive to prevent kidney stones and crystals from forming in cats. Her company specialized in nano-particles for paint and battery technology but they started a new animal division just for her to work on that project. She was making really great progress and they were negotiating with various pet food companies when her company was purchased by someone else who shut down the animal lab, laid her off and moved the company to only focus on the battery technology.

We have to have one of our cats on special food because she is prone to kidney stones.

[BaneTheBrawler]

What is it about me that draws idiots to me? Talking about my transplant in school today and someone asks how long I expected to live. I answer the question honestly then the teacher says "but Doctors like to assign arbitrary numbers to things."

And it left me speechless and angry lol

god, even taken in the best possible light that's still a piss-poor way to express the sentiment lol

[Jefe]

Funny. You never seemed to care before.

Is it getting uncomfortable being a homophobe now a days?

Oh I still don't care about being called x, y, or z, Kuya. I'm shocked you of all people can't sympathize. Anyone can say w/e they want, but this is a mod spreading lies.

By that rationale, anyone who has enjoyed a Roman Polanski or Woody Allen movie must totally be cool with child molestation, amirite?

Thanks for bringing this up. I will highlight your non sequitur as well as Kohan's. First, let's clarify one thing; when I asked Kohan why my Glenn Greenwald/Bowe comments were excluded was not to prove Kohan's argument wrong (this is what you're claiming, 'Perez'); rather to show there are converse premises that were magically omitted. You shall see the importance of them below.

Given:

Well, that's easy enough.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/563...=1#post1963519

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/668...=1#post2382613

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/993...=1#post5125537

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/113...=1#post5522519

And converse premises:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/116...ld#post5778672
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/116...ld#post5791859
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/116...nn#post6012212

Kohan, let's analyze your syllogistic argument in the form of p q, if and only if p⊃q is true for all premises. The technique of refutation by logical analogy states that an argument form is invalid if and only if it has at least one (see converse links) substitution instance with true premises and a false conclusion. Therefore, your argument is invalid.

[Pyrena]

Drive past the front of the complex. If a phone number is posted outside regarding units for rent, record it and look it up later, and you will likely find out who manages it. Besides that, if you can discreetly obtain the accurate address, do so. You can then look on Google, CraigsList directly, and other sources to find apartment listings. That way, even if a sign was not posted outside, you may have another means of discovering who manages it.

If you're successful in doing this, you can do one of two things: you can take the completely honest route, and call while stating that you are from a neighboring complex, and that the noises from an apartment near you are keeping you up at night. If you can somehow obtain their apartment letter/number as well, you will be able to do this accurately instead of nebulously. Alternatively, you may take the dishonest route, and say that you are a neighbor in the same complex, calling anonymously, to report that these other tenants are making it impossible for you to sleep at night. Bonus points if you mention the violation of a noise clause in your lease. Since you'll be doing that anonymously, you don't need to leave a call back number.

While we're on the subject of leases, do look at your own and see if there is a noise clause within it. If there is, it's doubtful that it restricts valid complaints to your complex alone. It probably refers to neighbors in general. If so, you can contact your own landlord for assistance in what you have determined to be an untenable situation. State that you are not unhappy with them, as there is no logical reason to be, but if this noise cannot be resolved, the situation will be unlivable for you.

Now, how close to involved you want to get depends upon your bravery levels. When it comes to getting that apartment number, you or someone you know could wait by the offending complex's gate, pretending to use your phone, and then waltz in when someone else does, presuming that there is some type of gate system. Unless they have on-site security, and I doubt that they do, the average person won't bat an eye at this.

Said number could also be the key to getting the police involved, especially if there is a gate, and it has an index of tenants, and that tenant is on it. If the police can be told "yes, go to the gate at 123456 A Street, and press 1 for apartment X," they have a means of getting access. They may not accept it, and may say you need to be at the gate to let them in, and there's obviously nothing you can do about that—unless you did get inside at night and place a call from in there, but I doubt you want to do something that risky.

I recently moved out of my apartment, and when I was talking to the office I said "It didn't really bother me, but don't be surprised if the new people complain. The kids upstairs go running across their apartment around 11pm EVERY NIGHT for like 20 minutes." Seriously, they're like 10 & 4 I think? Why 11pm? And they said in everyone's lease quiet hours start at 10pm so I could legitimately complain. There is probably someone in your office or theirs that you can complain to. Do it enough times, maybe see about getting other neighbors involved.

[hey]

Oh I still don't care about being called x, y, or z, Kuya. Anyone can say w/e they want, but this is a mod spreading lies.

It's not a lie though. Sorry if your homophobia prevents you from seeing how much of a homophobe you are, but it's true.

[Quixon]

I hate inconsiderate neighbors. I've almost came to blows with my neighbor' fat ass son multiple times. It always starts out the same...

I knock on the door to politely confront them. The woman catches an attitude with me, the son starts running his mouth..... I ask him to step outside if he'd like to continue. He doesn't, I either walk back home and call the cops, or cause them a bigger headache than they are causing me (only had to do that once, cops usually handle it).

Luckily the bank finally allowed them to short sell the house so they aren't living in it anymore.

[Aksannyi]

My neighbor is usually pretty chill, but he slams his door all the time. It wouldn't even be an issue if he wasn't constantly going in and out of his apartment. I've just been determined to live with it since I'll probably move when my lease is up in a few months. Rent costs keep going up here and the lease management company is not great, so I don't even bother to complain.

[Twilight Sky]

This is why I'm glad I don't live in an apartment, and my neighbors on the block are so boring that you often wonder are they in the houses dead or something.

BUT when I used to live in apts and had noise issues, what I would do is show them my sound system is unmatched and the loudest on the planet. Makes them tone it down real quick. Too much "Only me" mentality in this world. Gotta show some people that *gasp* there's other humans sharing the planet.

[BaneTheBrawler]

my neighbors are nice, as far as i can tell. one has kids, and they run around, but they usually settle down at a reasonable hour. another got me some cookies because i moved my car so she could have someone jump her car. the third i havent even talked to since ever. we both keep to ourselves.

this is minnesota, though, so maybe one of the ones i dont know hates my guts because i'm doing something they don't like. even if i spoke to them, they might not tell me. that's the real Minnesota Nice. so.... that's the first world problem for this post, i guess. i don't know if i'm doing something to upset my neighbors because if i was they would be unlikely to tell me.

[Melena]

Oh I still don't care about being called x, y, or z, Kuya. I'm shocked you of all people can't sympathize. Anyone can say w/e they want, but this is a mod spreading lies.



Thanks for bringing this up. I will highlight your non sequitur as well as Kohan's. First, let's clarify one thing; when I asked Kohan why my Glenn Greenwald/Bowe comments were excluded was not to prove Kohan's argument wrong (this is what you're claiming, 'Perez'); rather to show there are converse premises that were magically omitted. You shall see the importance of them below.

Given:


And converse premises:


Kohan, let's analyze your syllogistic argument in the form of p q, if and only if p⊃q is true for all premises. The technique of refutation by logical analogy states that an argument form is invalid if and only if it has at least one (see converse links) substitution instance with true premises and a false conclusion. Therefore, your argument is invalid.

It's cute when you try to use big words. But as they say, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

[hey]

This is why I'm glad I don't live in an apartment, and my neighbors on the block are so boring that you often wonder are they in the houses dead or something.

The only time i notice my neighbors are when i see them out a window, or when they start their cars. Otherwise, i forget they exist.

[Jefe]

It's cute when you try to use big words. But as they say, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

If you don't have any valid arguments, I'd advice you bark elsewhere. "As they say...," is a fallacy, my friend. Thanks for proving once again to kids everywhere that if they ever want to become a cop, all they need is a GED sprinkled w/ some bulling/failed athletics.

[Melena]

If you don't have any valid arguments, I'd advice you bark elsewhere. "As they say...," is a fallacy, my friend. Thanks for proving once again to kids everywhere that if they ever want to become a cop, all they need is a GED sprinkled w/ some bulling/failed athletics.

Funny, i'm not a cop, I do work in law enforcement as a civilian though. And good job with the veiled insult but I can assure you i'm well beyond a GED on the education spectrum. As for the bullying, if referring to you as a homophobe based off of several posts showing you are, then so be it. The proof is in the pudding and you got no one but yourself to blame. But keep playing the victim card and how Kohan is out to spread lies about you.

[BaneTheBrawler]

why do people use "my friend" when they're trying to sound smart? he's not your friend, buddy.

also plz advice me how to stop bulling when i see it

[Melena]

I will admit I laughed about the failed athletics comment. I guarantee Jefe would be on the ground crying day 1 in our academy. We actually had to tone ours down due to outside agencies crying over how many of their recruits failed the PT portions.

[BaneTheBrawler]

I guarantee Jefe would be on the ground crying day 1 in our academy.

grats, you just lost an argument to jefe

[Melena]

Maybe it's the lack of sleep driving back from anaheim last night and being at work all day but how so?

[Abandon]

for starters, you're arguing with jefe

[Melena]

for starters, you're arguing with jefe

Good point

[Kohan]

Oh I still don't care about being called x, y, or z, Kuya. I'm shocked you of all people can't sympathize. Anyone can say w/e they want, but this is a mod spreading lies.

That is so cute. You're actually more concerned because I'm a moderator? How sweet.

(Spoiler: It doesn't matter.)

Also, way to slip in another insult in your reply to Kuya. And you really do wonder why you're labeled the way you are? That false equivalency slap was just adorable.

Thanks for bringing this up. I will highlight your non sequitur as well as Kohan's.

Are you sure you're using that phrase properly? I do applaud your peppering your posts with Latin, but there isn't anything nonsensical going on here.

I may have spoken too soon, though. I didn't get to the rest of your post yet.

First, let's clarify one thing; when I asked Kohan why my Glenn Greenwald/Bowe comments were excluded was not to prove Kohan's argument wrong (this is what you're claiming, 'Perez'); rather to show there are converse premises that were magically omitted. You shall see the importance of them below.

Given:

And converse premises:

Kohan, let's analyze your syllogistic argument in the form of p q, if and only if p⊃q is true for all premises. The technique of refutation by logical analogy states that an argument form is invalid if and only if it has at least one (see converse links) substitution instance with true premises and a false conclusion. Therefore, your argument is invalid.

Let's discuss grammar for a moment, if you don't mind. It is, unconditionally, considered wrong when one places two spaces after a period. While it is rumored that this is a holdover from jammed typewriters, that is a myth. As you're clearly incapable of keeping your grammar straight while arranging your rebuttal, your argument is invalid.

Do you know why I made that statement? It's entirely as irrelevant as yours.

No one here needs to be taught how to debate, especially from someone who recites by-the-book rules, but fails to bring anything to the table when it's time to throw down. While factually correct when removed from context, your focusing on technicalities—instead of building a stronger response overall—does not look impressive.

TL;DR: "I can't produce an effective counterargument, so I'm going to say I don't agree with the way yours was constructed, and I'll pretend I'm all the smarter for it."

That aside, your examples—or "converse premises," as you chose to label them—are all magnificent, and I love them, because I could have used them myself. They don't help you in any way—they only make you look significantly worse.

To start with your musical tastes, saying that you like David Bowie means absolutely nothing in relation to being tolerant, and is, in fact, hilariously offensive. It's precisely equivalent to saying "I like rap music, therefore I like black people," or "I eat fried rice, therefore I like Chinese people." Perhaps, in your case, we could say: "I like burritos, therefore I like Mexicans."

It is, in short, absolutely hysterical, and a blatant example of casual stereotyping and prejudice. If you presented that serious-faced to a campaigner for gay rights, they would laugh in your face. Or spit in it. It depends.

Being appreciative of Glenn Greenwald is practically identical to the David Bowie example. "I like what a gay man says, so that means I'm fine with gays"—are you going to pull out "I have a gay friend, so I can't be a bigot" next? That kind of argument is classically amusing.

And... that's it. Two examples of casual stereotyping were given as your "counterargument" to your being accused of bigotry.

Hold on, laughing.

...

All right, I'm ready to go on.

With that out of the way, let's cut out the bullshit. Forget about discrediting structure. Don't bother with more "examples," as they're really not helping you as it is.

Let's give you a really simple litmus test.

Do you:

* Think it's fine for gays to have all of the same rights and privileges that heteronormative individuals do

Elaborating on that, do you:

* Understand the current social importance of making people aware of human rights struggles, including those surrounding gay individuals, until everyone is treated equally
* Think it's fine for gays to marry and have families, including their naturally having or adopting and raising children
* Think it's fine for gays to be openly involved in all of our forms of media, precisely as heteronormative people are
* Think it's fine for gays to openly display affection, much as heteronormative people do
* Believe that any restrictions currently imposed upon gays that are not imposed upon heteronormative people should be removed
* Believe that, according to the aforementioned, there is no valid reason to malign, exclude, or otherwise mistreat gays as they live their everyday lives

Yes/No?