Random Fail: First World Problems

[BaneTheBrawler]

Maybe it's the lack of sleep driving back from anaheim last night and being at work all day but how so?

because i guarantee you'd be on the ground crying day 1 with my intestines


it's just another way (and a ridiculous one at that) of being an internet tough guy, and internet tough guys always lose all arguments no matter what.

[Jefe]

Also, way to slip in another insult in your reply to Kuya. And you really do wonder why you're labeled the way you are? That false equivalency slap was just adorable.

It wasn’t an insult, sweetie.

No one here needs to be taught how to debate, especially from someone who recites by-the-book rules, but fails to bring anything to the table when it's time to throw down. While factually correct when removed from context, your focusing on technicalities—instead of building a stronger response overall—does not look impressive.

TL;DR: "I can't produce an effective counterargument, so I'm going to say I don't agree with the way yours was constructed, and I'll pretend I'm all the smarter for it."
That aside, your examples—or "converse premises," as you chose to label them—are all magnificent, and I love them, because I could have used them myself. They don't help you in any way—they only make you look significantly worse.

I wasn’t trying to sound ‘smart,’ it was a way to label the tools I was using so others, who aren’t well-versed w/ symbolic logic, would understand them/were curious.

To start with your musical tastes, saying that you like David Bowie means absolutely nothing in relation to being tolerant, and is, in fact, hilariously offensive. It's precisely equivalent to saying "I like rap music, therefore I like black people," or "I eat fried rice, therefore I like Chinese people." Perhaps, in your case, we could say: "I like burritos, therefore I like Mexicans."

It is, in short, absolutely hysterical, and a blatant example of casual stereotyping and prejudice. If you presented that serious-faced to a campaigner for gay rights, they would laugh in your face. Or spit in it. It depends.

Being appreciative of Glenn Greenwald is practically identical to the David Bowie example. "I like what a gay man says, so that means I'm fine with gays"—are you going to pull out "I have a gay friend, so I can't be a bigot" next? That kind of argument is classically amusing.

And... that's it. Two examples of casual stereotyping were given as your "counterargument" to your being accused of bigotry.

Again, I’m not ‘proving’ your argument to be invalid by utilizing the ‘I voted for Obama, therefore, I’m not racist,’ form of an irrelevant conclusion. But this method, which obviously you ignored:

syllogistic argument in the form of p q, if and only if p⊃q is true for all premises. The technique of refutation by logical analogy states that an argument form is invalid if and only if it has at least one (see converse links) substitution instance with true premises and a false conclusion. Therefore, your argument is invalid.

I simply used a syllogism to test your premises, and what do you know, the argument fell apart. QED.

Hold on, laughing.

Chilax, honey. I don’t want you throwing up in your mouth and choking on your own vomit.

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All right, I'm ready to go on.

Good. Save the passive aggressive bullshit for someone else... a step-dad, perhaps?

With that out of the way, let's cut out the bullshit. (…)

Every person, regardless of colour of their skin, sexual orientation, religious persuasion, etc., should be treated equally. If you see your brothers or sisters being treated in a certain way, that of which goes against what I’ve described, it is your duty to stand up for them and care for them. Have anything else for me to answer, sweetheart?

[Kuya]

Dude, everyone knows you're homophobic, but we accept you for who you are. Who knows, maybe one day we might make it legal for you to marry another douchy homophobe.

[BaneTheBrawler]

It wasn’t an insult, sweetie. ... honey. ... sweetheart?

okay champ

[Kuya]

For a homophobe, he sure is a passive aggressive like a flaming queen at the gay club.

[Melena]

because i guarantee you'd be on the ground crying day 1 with my intestines


it's just another way (and a ridiculous one at that) of being an internet tough guy, and internet tough guys always lose all arguments no matter what.

Ehh you are reading into it. He made a comment about how unathletic people become cops not knowing that academy's now a days are on par with military boot camp.

[BaneTheBrawler]

yes i saw that. your comment amounts to "Well you can't do it and I can!" as if that has any impact on anything at all. it's irrelevant posturing; therefore, internet tough guy.

[Melena]

yes i saw that. your comment amounts to "Well you can't do it and I can!" as if that has any impact on anything at all. it's irrelevant posturing; therefore, internet tough guy.

Rofl there's a reason I never went through the Academy. I blew my shoulder and could never pass the upper body portions of the test. I have never said I could and he couldn't. I just said he'd never make it.

[jmc]

Can we just take it to a new thread? I keep looking here for random fails

[Abandon]

Ehh you are reading into it. He made a comment about how unathletic people become cops not knowing that academy's now a days are on par with military boot camp.

nowadays, that's not saying much at all. 7+ years ago, i may back your argument.

[Abandon]

I'd say that using current day boot camp as a measure of athleticism is a pretty big fail, tbh

[Myrrh_Quetz]

I've sent out an Email to every local paper with my Transplant story. Time to get this ball rolling.

[Airenn]

Good for you. Not being sarcastic at all. Since you've met Sam you've gotten out of the house, school, puppy, gone on trips, and you're utilizing what you have had happen to you to make something happen. I do think you're actively using your life as a tool rather then sitting around in the muck forever.

Also, not saying she's the 100% reason, but sometimes a special person really helps motivate.

[Myrrh_Quetz]

She's 100% the reason


And I'm assuming the reason you are calmly saying something to me now is you saw that things aren't cut and dry and will probably apologize to me in your next response to me.

[Abandon]

Way to be a pseudo douche there, guy. The girl didnt mean to be a prick.

[Aksannyi]

I'd say that using current day boot camp as a measure of athleticism is a pretty big fail, tbh

Truth so much, I can't believe how pussy they've made it. And wtf at letting kids have their smartphones in Basic Training. Come on.

[Tokitoki]

Back to shitty neighbors...

I live in an apartment in the upper part of the Bronx. It's a house split into 4 apartments, each has their own outdoor entrance. I have exclusive right to the backyard and driveway being the 1st floor apartment in exchange for having higher rent, doing the yard work, and shoveling the front and sidewalk. Woman moves into the apartment upstairs about 3 weeks ago and starts piling all her trashed furniture in front of my stairs/front window, uses my garbage cans to the point they are literally overflowing, and stacks even more furniture, boxes, and garbage at the bottom of the driveway directly outside my living room window. Hasn't taken anything to the curb to be thrown away in those 3 weeks despite passing 6 garbage days thus far.

Compounds it by occupying the driveway, which I have shoveled 30 inches of snow out of in February alone, when I got home from work, hammering whatever the fuck from 9pm until 1:45am on a weekday before I had to go tell her to stop, moving furniture at 3am, and had the Verizon techs unhook our FiOS service to install her own.

I'm about ready to start being the shitty neighbor. I get along with everyone else around me. I'm giving her a chance to not be so shitty only because she just moved in recently.

[Sepukku]

shovel all the snow out front from you + the other 2 entrances and when you go to toss it, toss it on her entry pathway.

[Abandon]

Winner

[Brill Weave]

Back to shitty neighbors...

I live in an apartment in the upper part of the Bronx. It's a house split into 4 apartments, each has their own outdoor entrance. I have exclusive right to the backyard and driveway being the 1st floor apartment in exchange for having higher rent, doing the yard work, and shoveling the front and sidewalk. Woman moves into the apartment upstairs about 3 weeks ago and starts piling all her trashed furniture in front of my stairs/front window, uses my garbage cans to the point they are literally overflowing, and stacks even more furniture, boxes, and garbage at the bottom of the driveway directly outside my living room window. Hasn't taken anything to the curb to be thrown away in those 3 weeks despite passing 6 garbage days thus far.

Compounds it by occupying the driveway, which I have shoveled 30 inches of snow out of in February alone, when I got home from work, hammering whatever the fuck from 9pm until 1:45am on a weekday before I had to go tell her to stop, moving furniture at 3am, and had the Verizon techs unhook our FiOS service to install her own.

I'm about ready to start being the shitty neighbor. I get along with everyone else around me. I'm giving her a chance to not be so shitty only because she just moved in recently.

Fuck that. Wife and I had a neighbor like that. A few years ago Pittsburgh got slammed with snow(about 2 feet in a 24 hour period.) I shoveled out our parking spaces and watched as the fucking meth head pulled right into one of them. I asked him to move, he said fuck off. I smiled and called one of my buddies who impounded his car that night for expired stickers. 6 months later dude still didn't have the money to pay for his fees and tried to bum a ride off me.