Random Fail: First World Problems

[BaneTheBrawler]

http://www.livestrong.com/article/47...many-calories/

There are three potential issues from calorie intake, as per that site: obesity, gastronomical diabetes (which is only durring pregnancy, and I hope to god that girl isnt pregnant), and diabetes (which should not be an issue for a 10 year old child that isnt suffering weight issues). Considering OP didnt mention the child having any weight issues, theres no health related reason why a kid should be calorie counting, considering in grades 3/4 they shouldnt even know how to multiply/divide yet.

i just want to preserve this idiocy for future reference. this here is the real random fail.

[NynJa]

do explain then, instead of just making a blanket retard statement.

[bluefan]

Yes, if they have any specific health issues, among a multitude of other things. Hell, the wife and I check the calorie and fat content of various desserts to see if we can find a compromise item so we can treat ourselves without going overboard. Have to avoid that cheesecake factory cheesecake so you can avoid blowing your entire day's calorie content on a single slice.

Oh man the first and only time I got the Cheesecake factory cheesecake was for my 25th birthday.

Never again.

[BaneTheBrawler]

lots of reasons to watch calories. i'd rather have a kid be aware of their nutritional intake than not.

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[NynJa]

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Cool
how about explaining what they are, because everything I've googled just now is related to obesity. Instead of standing there on your soapbox going "hurr ur so idiot", say something meaningful more than "there are so many reasons..." and trailing off. Not all of us suffer your physical ailment and had to study the ins and outs of nutrition because our life actually depends on it.

[Aksannyi]

This just in:

You don't have to be obese to want to watch your caloric intake. Sometimes it's about prevention. You know, not becoming obese?

Shocking, I know.

[NynJa]

This just in:

You don't have to be obese to want to watch your caloric intake. Sometimes it's about prevention. You know, not becoming obese?

Shocking, I know.

I actually covered that

2-should a 9/10 year old girl be worrying about calorie intake? How much shit is in the news about how kids dont get enough exercise these days? Instead of tossing them outside to run around in fields and be kids, you're making them worry about what they're eating?

I'm gonna catch heat for this, but whatever, I wouldnt be surprised if in 4-6 years this girl becomes anorexic/bulimic. If she's worried about her food intake at 9-10, I wouldnt be surprised if when she hits her teenage years, she'll be 10 pounds underweight and have psychological problems from thinking she's fat.

And we've all been children and teenagers. You know damn well if she's worried about her physical appearance at 9-10, thats going to skyrocket in her teenage years.

[Aksannyi]

There's a difference between watching what you're eating (calories notwithstanding) and obsessing about it. But the thing is, from this small interaction, you don't know which is the case. Maybe the parents are there for her and want to make sure she's eating right. Maybe they're teaching her to be healthy. Just because someone is watching calories that doesn't mean they're on the road to an eating disorder.

Seems silly to try to figure out this kid's future because of one comment about calories. You don't know her backstory any more than you know her future. Seems like you're reading too far into this based on one minor interaction, one you didn't even experience.

[NynJa]

You're right, this is all we know:
"9 year old kid is looking at calorie content of chocolate and has stated she will refuse it if the calories are too high"

I think its a huge fail because a 9 year old kid should be being a kid and not stressing over calorie content of a chocolate bar. I think worrying about this stuff at such a young age will cause problems down the line, psychological problems leading to anorexia/bulimia. Isnt it called the Barbie effect?

[Bardicrune]

Type 1 Diabetes (also called Juvenile Diabetes because it normally develops during childhood) has nothing to do with weight. It has to do with not producing Insulin properly and therefore having to take insulin injections multiple times daily (or wearing an insulin pump). It requires carbohydrate monitoring for proper maintenance.

[Aksannyi]

I think if the kid has health nut parents then it might be a perfectly normal thing to her. That's what I'm trying to say. You don't know. You have no idea what her story is or how she eats or anything. But you claim to predict shit like potential eating disorders. Maybe her family has a history of diabetes and she's been taught to be careful. You don't know.

And fuck you for sitting there saying "oh she's on the road to an eating disorder." Bet you'd be the first fucking person to call her out if she got fat though, wouldn't you? Why are we obsessing about this? Leave the fucking girl alone. If she wants to count her fucking calories like a responsible adult would (because again, no one would say shit about this if it were an adult counting calories) then let her.

[AidenCarby]

This thread went from stupid to fucking retarded in one page.

[NynJa]

Type 1 Diabetes (also called Juvenile Diabetes because it normally develops during childhood) has nothing to do with weight. It has to do with not producing Insulin properly and therefore having to take insulin injections multiple times daily (or wearing an insulin pump). It requires carbohydrate monitoring for proper maintenance.

I may have missed something here, but how this is related to counting calories in chocolate?

I think if the kid has health nut parents then it might be a perfectly normal thing to her. That's what I'm trying to say. You don't know. You have no idea what her story is or how she eats or anything. But you claim to predict shit like potential eating disorders. Maybe her family has a history of diabetes and she's been taught to be careful. You don't know.

And fuck you for sitting there saying "oh she's on the road to an eating disorder." Bet you'd be the first fucking person to call her out if she got fat though, wouldn't you? Why are we obsessing about this? Leave the fucking girl alone. If she wants to count her fucking calories like a responsible adult would (because again, no one would say shit about this if it were an adult counting calories) then let her.

I dont see how I'm harassing the girl. I dont think the girl or her parents know anything about this conversation. In fact, I wish they did so we could get an update in 4-6 years I dont know where I claimed any eating disorders. I said I wouldnt be surprised. Puberty makes teenagers do stupid things and overreact and compound trivial nothings.

As far as calling her out if she got fat, I'd be pretty hypocritical. However, I can tell you that my food intake while I was in high school and my food intake after high school didnt change, where one I was normal weight for my age, and now I'm 240 pounds. The difference in the two is exercise. Which is why I think that people who count calories with the sole belief that "If I watch what I eat, I'll lose weight". If you arent burning it off, its not going to do anything.

[Bardicrune]

Per your post:

diabetes (which should not be an issue for a 10 year old child that isnt suffering weight issues).

Type 1 diabetes could very well cause the child to be taught to count "calories" (calories in processed food being largely carbs or fats).



Regardless the fail is yours for making an assumption when you aren't the parent or don't have all the facts. You simply heard a child make a statement to someone else and jumped to a conclusion.

My random fail is posting in this thread today.

[NynJa]

Regardless the fail is yours for making an assumption when you aren't the parent or don't have all the facts.

None of us have all of the facts. "Maybe she has health issues", maybe she DOESNT have health issues.

Let me ask you this hypothetical question:
Your kid has diabetes (no I'm not wishing it on you). Do you let them wander around the chocolate area in a store and develop an interest in this food that they cant have? Thats pretty sadistic if you ask me.

[Kanriel]

Calorie intake is vastly more important when it comes to weight control than exercising. So it's smart to look at calories on things. As well, calories can vary GREATLY even among chocolate. I have 3 different types of chocolate I buy for myself: A frozen yogurt (100cal per 1/2 cup) almond milk ice cream (120cal per 1/2 cup) and coconut milk ice cream (140 cal per 1/2 cup). My mother has a bit of ice cream in the exact same size container, but it's super extra chocolate fudge, which is 300 calories per half cup. I eat 2 servings per night, the calorie difference between my choices and my mothers choice is around 360 calories a day. That'd be an extra pound added on every week and a half or so. Purely through your selection of chocolate ice cream. The kid has a completely valid worry.

[Moss]

It's still a fail. I'm glad I wasn't counting the calories on Halloween candy when I was a kid.

[Bardicrune]

None of us have all of the facts. "Maybe she has health issues", maybe she DOESNT have health issues.

Let me ask you this hypothetical question:
Your kid has diabetes (no I'm not wishing it on you). Do you let them wander around the chocolate area in a store and develop an interest in this food that they cant have? Thats pretty sadistic if you ask me.

I absolutely would let my child "wander around the chocolate area", because having type 1 diabetes does NOT mean (for most people) you can have absolutely zero carbs. or junk food. What it means is that it has to be ingested in MODERATION and has to be balanced out with the appropriate level of insulin. So no, it's not sadistic in the least to let the child taste or want foods as long as they prepare for the consequences (checking the calories on a bar of chocolate).

[NynJa]

Calorie intake is vastly more important when it comes to weight control than exercising. So it's smart to look at calories on things. As well, calories can vary GREATLY even among chocolate. I have 3 different types of chocolate I buy for myself: A frozen yogurt (100cal per 1/2 cup) almond milk ice cream (120cal per 1/2 cup) and coconut milk ice cream (140 cal per 1/2 cup). My mother has a bit of ice cream in the exact same size container, but it's super extra chocolate fudge, which is 300 calories per half cup. I eat 2 servings per night, the calorie difference between my choices and my mothers choice is around 360 calories a day. That'd be an extra pound added on every week and a half or so. Purely through your selection of chocolate ice cream. The kid has a completely valid worry.

We dont know if the kid was looking at the snicker bars and kitkats, or the fancier chocolate. I dont think I've ever seen a "low fat" kitkat bar.

Presuming you and your mother are ingesting the same amount of calories, either she's overdoing it, or you're not taking in enough.

http://www.freedieting.com/tools/cal...ton1=Calculate
I made assumptions, but: you are 25 yrs old 5'10, 180 pounds, exercise 3x a week, you need 2488 calories per day

Your mother is 50, 5'4, 140, exercise 3x a week, needs 1707 calories per day.

[NynJa]

I absolutely would let my child "wander around the chocolate area", because having type 1 diabetes does NOT mean (for most people) you can have absolutely zero carbs. or junk food. What it means is that it has to be ingested in MODERATION and has to be balanced out with the appropriate level of insulin. So no, it's not sadistic in the least to let the child taste or want foods as long as they prepare for the consequences (checking the calories on a bar of chocolate).

You're a sick bastard